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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
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    #1
    Brees > Rodgers
    And it’s not even debatable.

    Brees has more TD passes than Rodgers.
    Brees has a better lifetime pass completion percentage.
    Brees has better across the board playoff numbers then Rodgers.
    Brees pretty much is better than Rodgers in every category.

    The Saints with Brees is 8-7 in the post season, the Packers with Rodgers is 9-7 but the Packer teams had better defenses then Saints teams so it’s not fair to compare the two QB’s playoff records but if you do want to compare Brees has better individual numbers than Rodgers in the post season.
  • jtoler
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    • 12-17-13
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    #2
    no.
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    • stevenash
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      • 01-17-11
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      #3
      ^
      Explain to me why you think Rodgers is better? The
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      • cincinnatikid513
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        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #4
        both underwhelming only 1 superbowl
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        • cincinnatikid513
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          • 11-23-17
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          #5
          brees played almost 100 more games than rodgers of course he will have more td passes
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          • stevenash
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            • 01-17-11
            • 65828

            #6
            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
            both underwhelming only 1 superbowl
            Invalid argument.
            Super Bowls are won with 53 player teams, not one.
            Was Ernie Banks underwhelming because his Cubs teams never won a World Series?
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            • jtoler
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              #7
              just going by what Ive seen, brees % higher imo because he's attempted shorter passes while rodgers more downfield also rodgers hasnt had the receiving weapons brees has had over his career, the most glaring thing is rodgers has 2 mvp awards, brees 0
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
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                #8
                also rodgers has won 65% of the games he's started compared to 59% for brees. I love brees love rodgers more
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                • stevenash
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                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65828

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                  brees played almost 100 more games than rodgers of course he will have more td passes
                  OK, let’s forget about the number of TD passes thrown because Brees has indeed played in more games.
                  Brees still is the more accurate passer, the proof is in the numbers, Brees has better accuracy numbers regular season and post season than Rodgers and you can’t use the amount of games played to debate that.
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                  • KVB
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                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jtoler
                    just going by what Ive seen, brees % higher imo because he's attempted shorter passes while rodgers more downfield also rodgers hasnt had the receiving weapons brees has had over his career, the most glaring thing is rodgers has 2 mvp awards, brees 0
                    Over their careers...

                    Brees with 11.2 yards per catch.

                    Rodgers with 12.0 yards per catch.

                    Of course, this isn't broken down by yards after the catch.
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                    • stevenash
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                      • 01-17-11
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jtoler
                      also rodgers has won 65% of the games he's started compared to 59% for brees. I love brees love rodgers more
                      Invalid argument, Rodgers Packer teams were across the board better teams then Brees Saints teams.
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        • 12-10-09
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                        #12
                        Both can throw a ball with accurately if given time like all the greats.. Need play calling, receivers that can get open and an OL that gives you time to throw..

                        QB accuracy both are solid!!!! Hard sell either way.. Drew Brees really good with the long ball though..
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                        • jtoler
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          Over their careers...

                          Brees with 11.2 yards per catch.

                          Rodgers with 12.0 yards per catch.

                          Of course, this isn't broken down by yards after the catch.
                          I looked at yds/attempt, attempted yards/avg. and yds/catch. rodgers also has the running ability
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                          • BigDeem5
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                            • 02-26-11
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                            #14
                            Brees has had a great NfL coach... Rodgers has never had an average one
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                            • Demonata
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              Both can throw a ball with accurately if given time like all the greats.. Need play calling, receivers that can get open and an OL that gives you time to throw..

                              QB accuracy both are solid!!!! Hard sell either way.. Drew Brees really good with the long ball though..
                              Lol you are saying rodgers not good with long ball??
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                              • stevenash
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                                • 01-17-11
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                Brees has had a great NfL coach... Rodgers has never had an average one
                                I can’t recall a coach making an on field tackle or making a pass reception.
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                                • pattymayo
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                                  • 05-19-09
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                                  #17
                                  I don't care what stat advantage Brees has, I'm taking Rodgers every single day.

                                  Like mentioned, he's played in nearly 100 more games so of course he'll have more TDs.

                                  Plays half his games in a dome and has nearly 100 more pass TD at home than on the road. That's a ridiculous split, few QBs have that kind of a difference at home.

                                  Completion percentage is meaningless these days, half the starting QBs in the entire league are 65% or better this year. Sam freaking Bradford led the NFL with 72% a few years ago. And Brees the last few years is the king of the short pass to Kamara and he turns it into 20 yards.

                                  Brees has had much better coaching and much better weapons over the course of his career.

                                  Rodgers better athlete, better arm, mobile. Using the ole fashion eye test, Rodgers is better.
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                                  • pattymayo
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                                    • 05-19-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    I can’t recall a coach making an on field tackle or making a pass reception.
                                    Silly. I know you're a tri state area old timer Steve, you know the importance of a quality head coach in the overall success of a team.
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                                    • lakerboy
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                                      • 04-02-09
                                      • 94382

                                      #19
                                      Agreed. Rodgers most overrated qb ever. Is he great? Yes. Has he done less then his rep? Yes. He blew that game in Seattle. That was the end of him. Brees saved a city. He don't need to do anymore
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                                      • cincinnatikid513
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                                        • 11-23-17
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                                        #20
                                        i prefer rodgers feel hes better all around qb brees so good at home but when hes on road not the same
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                                        • lakerboy
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                                          • 04-02-09
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                          i prefer rodgers feel hes better all around qb brees so good at home but when hes on road not the same
                                          Wrong. That was early part of career in new Orleans. His road record is solid
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            • 12-10-09
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Demonata
                                            Lol you are saying rodgers not good with long ball??
                                            He's awesome with the long ball too Dem.. Brees the best I've ever seen though.. Brady up there as well..

                                            Give Brees time to set his feet he'll throw the ball deep on the money over most QB's period..
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                                            • shocka1212
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                                              • 10-06-12
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                                              #23
                                              Rodgers has made some of the greatest throws I've ever seen. throws his receivers open, can throw it anywhere from anywhere (inside or outside the pocket).... don't disrespect.
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                                              • Demonata
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                                                • 07-12-11
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                He's awesome with the long ball too Dem.. Brees the best I've ever seen though.. Brady up there as well..

                                                Give Brees time to set his feet he'll throw the ball deep on the money over most QB's period..
                                                Brees no way in hell has a better arm than Rodgers...Also Brady isn't great at the deep ball either...
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  • 12-10-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Demonata
                                                  Brees no way in hell has a better arm than Rodgers...Also Brady isn't great at the deep ball either...
                                                  Rodgers is right there Dem.. Don't count out the Brees long ball hits though especially in the dome.. He delivers with the best of them.
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                                                  • Cuse0323
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                                                    • 12-09-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Brees has Payton in a nice cushy Dome. Rodgers has to play at Lambeau. Switch spots, and I don’t think Brees would be able to do what Rodgers has done, while Rodgers would light up the Dome all the same.
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                                                    • BigDeem5
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                                                      • 02-26-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                      I can’t recall a coach making an on field tackle or making a pass reception.
                                                      Really bad argument here
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                                                      • KVB
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                                                        • 05-29-14
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                                                        #28
                                                        "It's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jims and Joes"

                                                        --Booger McFarland

                                                        Made me think of this thread.
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                                                        • stevenash
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                                                          • 01-17-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pattymayo
                                                          Silly. I know you're a tri state area old timer Steve, you know the importance of a quality head coach in the overall success of a team.
                                                          I’m not that old.
                                                          lol

                                                          Wait for my next thread.
                                                          Parcells > Belichick

                                                          Wasn’t it Parcells that resurrected Belichick’s career?
                                                          Now before you jump ugly on your pal Nasher, I’m just joking around.

                                                          But.....
                                                          It’s still It’s Brady and Montana 1 and 1a for me than Brees 3 then everyone else.
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                                                          • lonegambler23
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                                                            • 06-22-16
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                                                            #30
                                                            not even close. mr blue 80 for days
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                                                            • GunShard
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                                                              • 03-05-10
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                                                              #31
                                                              Consider these facts that Brees been playing in a dome while Rodgers been playing outdoors in cold weather. Though I also lean towards Brees as the better QB.
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                                                              • 19th Hole
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                                                                • 03-22-09
                                                                • 18983

                                                                #32
                                                                Rogers over Brees.

                                                                Although neither can sniff Montana or Brady.
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                                                                • thechaoz
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                                                                  • 10-23-09
                                                                  • 12154

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                  no.
                                                                  Well ya actually
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Silly discussion...

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                                                                    • thomorino
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                                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                                      • 45842

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                      And it’s not even debatable.

                                                                      Brees has more TD passes than Rodgers.
                                                                      Brees has a better lifetime pass completion percentage.
                                                                      Brees has better across the board playoff numbers then Rodgers.
                                                                      Brees pretty much is better than Rodgers in every category.

                                                                      The Saints with Brees is 8-7 in the post season, the Packers with Rodgers is 9-7 but the Packer teams had better defenses then Saints teams so it’s not fair to compare the two QB’s playoff records but if you do want to compare Brees has better individual numbers than Rodgers in the post season.
                                                                      They are both overrated but Rodgers was better in his prime and it's not close. Brees has aged better because he's the better pocket passer, Rodgers has had injuries and he relied on his athleticism more which isn't as impressive of course since he's older.

                                                                      Brees could not hear the Bears defenses in his prime, Rodgers destroyed those defenses. Brees also has never won an important playoff game on the road, Rodgers has won many. Brees plays on a some and throws lots of short passes, that's why his stats are better, put Rodgers Ina some instead of lambeau and he'd shit on brees. Not close.
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