Over reaction to the total market in Army-Navy game

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  • RangeFinder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-27-16
    • 8041

    #1
    Over reaction to the total market in Army-Navy game
    Played Over 40.5

    Both teams run the ball anyway so weather has little effect. 12mph winds don't effect kicks that much either. Total over reaction in the market IMO

    Good luck if you fire with me
  • veriableodds
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-17
    • 5093

    #2
    Its a good call anytime the higher ranked team ppg*/rating is higher then the line total.
    GL
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    • RangeFinder
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-27-16
      • 8041

      #3
      Originally posted by veriableodds
      Its a good call anytime the higher ranked team ppg*/rating is higher then the line total.
      GL
      A lot of it is the historical results on the Under record in this game plus the weather. Public is too in love with past results without paying attention to the actual statistics of both teams.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Everyone seems to think the line is low but why is it not moving
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        • Getch13
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-13-18
          • 6948

          #5
          Notice The Average Total Is 50. You could be on the right side here. BOL Getch


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          • RangeFinder
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-27-16
            • 8041

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Everyone seems to think the line is low but why is it not moving
            Public is throwing money at the Under. That's why.
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            • RangeFinder
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-27-16
              • 8041

              #7
              Originally posted by Getch13
              Notice The Average Total Is 50. You could be on the right side here. BOL Getch

              Thanks for the chart. That was my point.
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              • Renegades
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-12-11
                • 5290

                #8
                the stats for each team do no matter in this game. It's all neutralized by the fact they run almost the exact same offense. If Navy scores 40 pts a game vs everyone else, you can shave 10-14 pts off when they play army or air force. Navy has a very good offense but they will not get those chunk plays vs Army b/c Army knows what they are trying to do. Add to the fact that this game will be no more than 2-3 possessions per quarter. IE Army could get the ball to start the game, run 10 plays, burn 6 mins, and not even be at midfield. That's how this game goes. There just are not enough big plays. Everything is a grind b/c the teams know what each other is trying to do.

                For me I like playing service academy games over when they play teams that pass a lot and have a lot of speed. And vs teams that do not see the option all year.
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                • DoctorStrong
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-11-19
                  • 759

                  #9
                  Army ml and over, but not by much, good write-up
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                  • PittsburghPlayer
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-11-10
                    • 6760

                    #10
                    what you men are saying is Army and the Ov?
                    27-23 my guess
                    split at the very least
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Almost every game has gone under does anyone do their homework here
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                      • veriableodds
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-22-17
                        • 5093

                        #12
                        level 3 simulation / 3 being enough data collected for a more accurate predictor
                        12/14 Navy vs Army Navy No Odds -390 No Odds 81.3% 33.91 55.83
                        Army No Odds +320 No Odds 18.7% 21.91
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                        • SnakesPicks
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-05-13
                          • 685

                          #13
                          Overreaction or undereaction really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters, obviously, is the final score. According to the stats from this year, I do like the over. But I also think that you cannot disregard the long and storied history of this matchup. It is usually an ugly slugfest. The reason I like the over is because Hawaii lit up Army a couple of weeks ago, and this year's Hawaii team is far from a scoring machine. That being said, I think that Navy needs to score 30+ points for this game to go over. Prediction: Navy 31 Army 14.
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                          • dark star
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-04-09
                            • 3900

                            #14
                            I played the over,The one thing I don't like about these teams is that they never seem to have kickers which definitely hurts,empty trips start to add up and can kill a total
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                            • PittsburghPlayer
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                              • 01-11-10
                              • 6760

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              Almost every game has gone under does anyone do their homework here
                              so Army and the under?

                              major air on this game, please advise when you know the winner/final score
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                              • johnnyvegas13
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 05-21-15
                                • 27898

                                #16
                                Is this really the only gm in town today
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                                • SnakesPicks
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-05-13
                                  • 685

                                  #17
                                  yes
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                                  • SnakesPicks
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-05-13
                                    • 685

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer
                                    so Army and the under?

                                    major air on this game, please advise when you know the winner/final score
                                    Navy and the over.
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                                    • johnnyvegas13
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 05-21-15
                                      • 27898

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SnakesPicks
                                      Navy and the over.
                                      I do think navy wins but 10 could b a lot for a gm like this
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                                      • Grosshhit
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-10-09
                                        • 673

                                        #20
                                        Navy is the square play today. Sharps are on Army to possibly win and cover.
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #21
                                          The thing is look at the freakin history, this game will prob not go above 38.
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Grosshhit
                                            Navy is the square play today. Sharps are on Army to possibly win and cover.
                                            Dunno bout winning but I think it be a one score game so not bad price to take a shot on the ml. I rather just put whatever extra I’d play on ml onto the ats play, no sense being greedy. They wanna give us 4 too many points imo, I’ll take them. I’m not a “sharp” tho.
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                                            • Otters27
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-14-07
                                              • 30760

                                              #23
                                              Just concerned about the clock running Ranger
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Otters27
                                                Just concerned about the clock running Ranger
                                                As you should be, both so well versed against the option we don’t tend to see the big plays they get vs other teams. Long clock eating drives some of which don’t even end in points really makes it tough to get over even a pretty low number. I think 38 is prob bout tops here but I been wrong before.
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                                                • hotcross
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-04-17
                                                  • 7934

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                  The thing is look at the freakin history, this game will prob not go above 38.
                                                  how many did you say?

                                                  a little surprised none of those brothers on Army had the speed to get Perry on those runs around the end
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Lol

                                                    Lines are never wrong
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                                                    • Tanko
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                                                      • 09-19-09
                                                      • 5143

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                      The thing is look at the freakin history, this game will prob not go above 38.

                                                      JFC Banker... You are a prophet. 38 exactly.
                                                      Need lotto numbers for tonight please...
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                                                      • SnakesPicks
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-05-13
                                                        • 685

                                                        #28
                                                        Prediction: Navy 31 Army 14.

                                                        I was close.
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                                                        • Big Bear
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 11-01-11
                                                          • 43253

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Tanko
                                                          JFC Banker... You are a prophet. 38 exactly.
                                                          Need lotto numbers for tonight please...

                                                          banker needed somebody to praise him

                                                          guy has been feeling low
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Yes

                                                            Ranger get on the sidelines it’ll save you money
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