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  • 2daBank
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    • 01-26-09
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    #1
    Let’s talk NFL week 14
    Ok guys, so ncaa reg season over. So by popular demand I’ll cave and try this for nfl rest of season and see how it goes. In case ya havnt heard I have stunk it up in nfl this year! It has gotten somewhat better the last month so hoping I’ve maybe turned the corner and at least seeing it decently now. Or just had some dumb luck go my way lately? Who knows, you be the judge! Maybe I’ll be a good fade, maybe I have got things going, or maybe ya’ll can help me out!!! If these threads half as good the college threads I’ll be ecstatic!

    As tradition carried over from the ncaa I’ll jump things off with a play or 6, pretty much whatever I’ve played to this point or if no plays just where I’m leaning. Here we go:

    Saints -2.5

    So there basically 3 maybe 4 teams in nfc that could get to SB IMO, 2 of them are playing this game and we get the home team without having to lay the fg? I think most of us have come to conclusion HFA isn’t simply worth the standard 3 any longer, many home fields not worth the fg while some others worth little more., Certainly we can agree saints home field one the better ones that warrants at least a fg if not slightly more., so based off that assumption we calling niners at least -1 on neutral? I disagree with this. I think these teams are incredibly even so not having to pay for HFA here I think has some value.

    Saints match up better with niners than I think some realize. You can run on the niners and saints have long since been more a rushing team than they get credit for. Interestingly enough the saints haven’t been churning out the rushing attempts lately (kumara been out lot of that imo). but Peyton a very good coach and there no way he isn’t looking at film knowing he has to get the run game going to protect his aging HOF qb vs that sick pass rush! Look at niners opponents yards per rush the last 9 weeks. I’ll skip some but just in a nutshell packers 4.2, cards over 5 and over 6 ypc! Seattle 4.3, Browns 5.7, rams 5 par carry. Point is you can run at this niners defense. I also think this the kind of game losing kwan Alexander as he could help contain kumara.

    So if we can agree saints match up physically then consider the spot. Niners had to go to balty in the rain and play one of the most physical games we have seen all year now they going back on road to face another tough team in a tough environment! I’m not a huge trend guy but I’ll give you one anyways. Last 15 times saints have hosted a team with a .800 or better win percentage? 14-1 ats!! Imo these teams neck and neck but we getting better spot, with a great home field, and paying no premium? I’m usually a saints hater mostly cause we usually have to pay extra to play therm and that not my style. In this case we gettin a freakin discount!! Sign me up as saints “we got cheated last year” SB tour takes one step closer to HFA throughout playoffs.


    Ravens/bills under 44


    what nobody talks bout w Ravens is how extremely great their defense compliments their offense., That secondary is nasty so they blitz like crazy. You only get about 8-9 possessions in a game if you lucky vs them!!!

    They get home with a blitz and put you behind the sticks and presto, there goes one your possessions. Next time they force a turnover and shit another possession out the window. Next thing you know it halftime and you had the ball 3 times!! Now you start pressing. And the whole time their offense is leaning on you harder and harder as your d wears down.

    So my question is how the Fukk bills gonna score cause their wrs outside John brown not scaring anyone. Ravens will clog the middle to take Beasley out and go man across rest of board while bringing heat! Is Allen ready for that?? He is a big strong kid, maybe his wheels will get them out some trouble? If you like bills you gotta like under imo. It gotta be a game played at 20 or below for them to have a shot imo.

    Both teams gonna look to shorten this game. Very few possessions, chilly, windy. And at 44 even if this tied at 20 we can still come in with a winning fg. I think this a game both run games are they way to attack as the conditions combined with these pass defenses neither these teams gonna throw much imo.




    Ok guys you know the drill. Let’s find some winners!!
  • asiagambler
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    • 07-23-17
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    #2
    I don't like Brees in this matchup. I think he is vulnerable against that scary DL. I almost wish Bridgewater was starting this game

    But Niners did just play a tough physical game against Ravens last week and Saints home field probably strongest in the league

    Under looks very good but I missed the good numbers. Still on the fence but if I bet, the moneyline (-130) looks very cheap and attractive
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    • asiagambler
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      • 07-23-17
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      #3
      Agree everything with Saints more of a running team with Kamara and Niners vulnerable on the ground but it seems like because it's Brees, Peyton's not just gonna have him be a game manager. He's gonna be aggressive with him and I think that's where they can get into trouble
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #4
        Originally posted by asiagambler
        I don't like Brees in this matchup. I think he is vulnerable against that scary DL. I almost wish Bridgewater was starting this game

        But Niners did just play a tough physical game against Ravens last week and Saints home field probably strongest in the league

        Under looks very good but I missed the good numbers. Still on the fence but if I bet, the moneyline (-130) looks very cheap and attractive
        I hate Brees in general and I know everyone thinks I’m nuts but I like saints better with teddy b!! Lol. That said Peyton isn’t a moron like some coaches and will use his run game to protect his aging qb here imo. Speaking of QBs I feel like this could be one jimmy g struggle, that stadium, that defense who very good against the run and get after the qb pretty well themselves, I think this could be one these games the Monday morning bobble heads back to questioning jimmy g., How do aints defend tight ends? You know off hand?
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        • stackz125
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          • 01-03-16
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          #5
          Dolphins +5.5
          Jax+3
          Texans-9
          Seahawks ml

          Dolphins have been covering while jets are hit n miss wnd no bell tomorrow

          Jax+3
          Jaxsonville at home and play better with Minshew chargers have phillip rivers

          Taxand at home
          Broncos suck

          Seahawks haven't lost a road game all season and i dont trust LA
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #6
            Originally posted by asiagambler
            Agree everything with Saints more of a running team with Kamara and Niners vulnerable on the ground but it seems like because it's Brees, Peyton's not just gonna have him be a game manager. He's gonna be aggressive with him and I think that's where they can get into trouble
            If that happens I would worry, I would think Brees and Peyton both in that film room watching that pass rush saying “hey coach, maybe we should run and throw bunch of dump offs to kumara this week!”. Lol.

            Jimmy g gonna struggle in this one imo.
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            • asiagambler
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              • 07-23-17
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              #7
              I kind of repeated some stuff you said lol. Admittedly, I skimmed through the parts because wanted to get these ideas off my head
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              • asiagambler
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                • 07-23-17
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                #8
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                I hate Brees in general and I know everyone thinks I’m nuts but I like saints better with teddy b!! Lol. That said Peyton isn’t a moron like some coaches and will use his run game to protect his aging qb here imo. Speaking of QBs I feel like this could be one jimmy g struggle, that stadium, that defense who very good against the run and get after the qb pretty well themselves, I think this could be one these games the Monday morning bobble heads back to questioning jimmy g., How do aints defend tight ends? You know off hand?
                Yes, I like that it's at the Superdome, gonna be crazy, marquee matchup plus Payton very good coach in his own right. Don't have to worry about him getting out-coached. I think Saints are a bet

                Regarding TE, not sure... I don't recall a TE having a monster game against them. I think they're about above average but will have to do some checking
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                • 2daBank
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                  • 01-26-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by stackz125
                  Dolphins +5.5
                  Jax+3
                  Texans-9
                  Seahawks ml

                  Dolphins have been covering while jets are hit n miss wnd no bell tomorrow

                  Jax+3
                  Jaxsonville at home and play better with Minshew chargers have phillip rivers

                  Taxand at home
                  Broncos suck

                  Seahawks haven't lost a road game all season and i dont trust LA
                  I don’t like spot for Seattle off Monday night and those Seattle/rams games are historically tough even when one of them awful. Rams so tough for me cause I don’t understand wtf they trying to accomplish on offense week to week, even their totals a pain in my ass cause whenever I think they should run it mcvey has Goff throw 50-60 freakin times. If you made me play it I’d take Seattle too but I don’t like this one.


                  Fish and jags games I have no freaking idea how you have any confidence in how either those games gonna look? I’d love for you to give me a quick take on how you see them playing far as like game flow, few stats, and score. Really would appreciate cause I have not a clue how they look.


                  Not sure I trust Texans to lay that. I think lock is terrible, thought he sucked at mizzou and laughed when elway drafted him but I could just see the crappy coached Texans feeling themselves off pats win, let Watson get sacked 6x and they find themselves in a closer game than it should be at the end. I’m def not against you tho.
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                  • stackz125
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                    • 01-03-16
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                    #10
                    This does have a "let down" spot feeling for the 49ers
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                    • 2daBank
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                      • 01-26-09
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by asiagambler
                      I kind of repeated some stuff you said lol. Admittedly, I skimmed through the parts because wanted to get these ideas off my head
                      All good., I’ve had super long day and my eyes blurry as shit: I don’t feel like mine were well composed at all, more just spitting out random thoughts as they came to me, just wanted to get it started. Not my best work just hoped sentiment got across!! Lol
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                      • asiagambler
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                        #12
                        Bank- ok so Saints against tight ends

                        sharpfootballstats has Saints defense allowing 100.5 rating against tight ends which is 18th best. Successful play rate to tight ends 54%, again 18th best. They've allowed 3 TDs to TE and 1 INT. So looks like a little below average
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                        • stackz125
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          I don’t like spot for Seattle off Monday night and those Seattle/rams games are historically tough even when one of them awful. Rams so tough for me cause I don’t understand wtf they trying to accomplish on offense week to week, even their totals a pain in my ass cause whenever I think they should run it mcvey has Goff throw 50-60 freakin times. If you made me play it I’d take Seattle too but I don’t like this one.


                          Fish and jags games I have no freaking idea how you have any confidence in how either those games gonna look? I’d love for you to give me a quick take on how you see them playing far as like game flow, few stats, and score. Really would appreciate cause I have not a clue how they look.


                          Not sure I trust Texans to lay that. I think lock is terrible, thought he sucked at mizzou and laughed when elway drafted him but I could just see the crappy coached Texans feeling themselves off pats win, let Watson get sacked 6x and they find themselves in a closer game than it should be at the end. I’m def not against you tho.
                          Honestly, playing fish amd jacksonville are just me betting AGAINST the other team and QB.
                          Jets don't have bell and Maimi are playing better than Jets imo and getting 5.5...

                          I just dont trust either LA team. And i think that team plays better with Minshew.
                          I dont follow or keep track of stats
                          Im not a believer in the whole stats bs.
                          Any Given Fuking Sunday.
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                          • asiagambler
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                            #14
                            I'm thinking Jets -5

                            Dolphins look to be garnering lots of public support. This should be a revenge game for Gase. LeVeon Bell out but Darnold should throw all over them
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                            • stackz125
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                              I'm thinking Jets -5

                              Dolphins look to be garnering lots of public support. This should be a revenge game for Gase. LeVeon Bell out but Darnold should throw all over them
                              Bengals have the worst defense in the league
                              And he did jack against them
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                              • asiagambler
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                                #16
                                stackz- I didn't realize you like the Dolphins here... I just think it's a good time to sell high on them
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                                • asiagambler
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stackz125
                                  Bengals have the worst defense in the league
                                  And he did jack against them
                                  True but that was also their Super Bowl. They put Dalton back in to try to win for the first time. Their defense has been bad but it's also been because of injuries and because players quit. They went all in for that game
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                                  • asiagambler
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                                    #18
                                    Maybe Jets aren't such a good idea. I see Jamal Adams is doubtful. Looks like they are gonna be thin in the secondary
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                                    • stackz125
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by asiagambler
                                      True but that was also their Super Bowl. They put Dalton back in to try to win for the first time. Their defense has been bad but it's also been because of injuries and because players quit. They went all in for that game
                                      This actually made sense after the game lol
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                                      • pilebuck13
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                                        • 05-15-15
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                                        #20
                                        Minny Detroit under Green Bay redskins under Raiders w the points Tampa id lay the points chargers id lay the the points don’t like Seattle but don’t love it so much more to say but so tired mentally drained
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                                        • asiagambler
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                                          #21
                                          I have to say, even though we have a full slate of games, I'm not seeing a whole lot that I like
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                                          • 2daBank
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by stackz125
                                            Honestly, playing fish amd jacksonville are just me betting AGAINST the other team and QB.
                                            Jets don't have bell and Maimi are playing better than Jets imo and getting 5.5...

                                            I just dont trust either LA team. And i think that team plays better with Minshew.
                                            I dont follow or keep track of stats
                                            Im not a believer in the whole stats bs.
                                            Any Given Fuking Sunday.
                                            lol. I meant more as to what you thought the stats in those Gabe’s would look like opposed to asking you to regurgitate the ones I could look up myself. That all.

                                            Agree w any given Sunday to a degree but I do think some numbers can help tell the story if the right ones being applied to help draw a picture, of course then a dickhead like mcvey has Goff throw it 97 times and that all goes out the fukkin window! Lol.

                                            I don’t like rams either. If I was still playing big nfl cards I’d be with you on Seattle. I have trimmed them way down last month or so which has helped so sticking w that makes this a pass for me but I agree w you:

                                            Tough to sell me bell matters, has he mattered at all this year? Not that I’m against you, just not sure Bell worth much of anything these days? I’d argue jets been the better team of the 2 up until last week when they got caught off guard by bungals trying! Who saw that coming? Certainly not jets!! Lolz.

                                            I think you getting the better coached team w the points. Speaking of stats they prob even more meaningless on this game considering jets had many games with some guy off street playing qb and fish didn’t start taking things seriously for a month or so. You don’t worry bout Gase already being beaten by his former team once? Totally understand taking the points. I couldn’t lay points w jets but I think fact fish beat them 1st game a worry for you here. That my rather meaningless take. lol.


                                            When did minshew start playing again? Middle of Tennessee game then he played full Tampa game or he didn’t come back in until middle last game? I hate that guy and even if he was good at some point I’ll never forgive him for costing me over in London by being terrible! lol.

                                            Thanks for sharing. Gl brotha
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                                            • 2daBank
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                                              I have to say, even though we have a full slate of games, I'm not seeing a whole lot that I like
                                              Me neither but that has been very common for me the last 5-6 weeks. I have totally abandoned my typical volume betting with nfl this year. I just havnt been seeing if well enough to fire at whole card. It been a huge struggle to find 5 without totals for contest! Lol
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                                              • pilebuck13
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                                                #24
                                                How we not take Vikings first half I hate cousins but Detroit awful perfect team for them to come out beating on
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                                                • 2daBank
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                  Minny Detroit under Green Bay redskins under Raiders w the points Tampa id lay the points chargers id lay the the points don’t like Seattle but don’t love it so much more to say but so tired mentally drained
                                                  If you can muster a line of blow and suck it up for 5 min I’d love to chit chat bout skins/pack game and raiders game.

                                                  I’m really close to talking myself into skins, but can I back that clown selfie taking moron at Lambough? I dunno?? But skins run game should keep them in it and I’m assuming good treason for your under lean??

                                                  Raiders? Man I’m super tempted to play titans. Think I could easily be sold on the under being better than a side!! 47.5 in a game w 2 power rushing teams. Do line bro and let’s bash it out!
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                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                    How we not take Vikings first half I hate cousins but Detroit awful perfect team for them to come out beating on
                                                    Def looks like a game minnyfats be here bragging about cousins MVP candidacy again. Lol
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                                                    • asiagambler
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                                                      #27
                                                      Bucs/Colts over 47

                                                      Bucs have top run defense but it almost doesn't matter because their secondary is horrible so teams just throw on them

                                                      Colts missing TY Hilton but they get Parris Campbell back. Colts' OL should give Brissette plenty of time and I think they will move the ball just fine

                                                      Bucs one of the worst against tight ends, I foresee a big day for Ebron and Doyle too

                                                      Added bonus, Adam Vinatieri is hurt, so Chase McLaughlin gets kicking duties, can't be worse than Vinatieri

                                                      Bucs kicker Matt Gay can be a problem too though, missed 3 extra points in one game

                                                      But I don't see Colts stopping Bucs either. Colts got some injuries in the secondary, Hooker and Rock Yasin both questionable

                                                      Two teams not too familiar with each other, looks like a shootout
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                                                      • asiagambler
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                                                        #28
                                                        Also betting Chiefs ML +144

                                                        Superior more explosive team. Belichick is gonna have to work some magic here to win this game IMO
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                                                        • 2daBank
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                          Also betting Chiefs ML +144

                                                          Superior more explosive team. Belichick is gonna have to work some magic here to win this game IMO

                                                          Please don’t take any this next rant I’m bout to go on as directed at you brother, It absolutely is not. Just have to get this off my chest and you happened to be one who brought this Game up, nothing more. I actually agree w you but kills me pats lost last week. I was dying to bet kc also. (Here goes the rant! lol)

                                                          No chance I can go against pats after a loss. I know some like to piss on that narrative/trend (not saying you) but fact is it been paying for almost 2 decades!!!

                                                          Wtf is pats record off a loss? Gotta be over 80% right?

                                                          Of course it gonna come to a end and looks more like this year than Ever before but I can’t do it. I dunno if I can pass from playing pats cause it kills me even tho I think kc better and heading right way/getting healthy while pats sliding.

                                                          Against eagles several brainiacs round here told me not to believe pats numbers off loss and bye! “Don’t believe a 20 year FACT” they said!! Jfc!

                                                          Every time we get this free money situation we get jerkoffs telling us how it not free money despite the contrary evidence!! Yet it cashes time after time after time. I often say I love when I fade pats and win cause it like getting 2 bets right as it automatic to take them the following week!! It’s like some these ppl either hate us, Money, or themselves., not like we just figured out this trend yesterday!! Most of us been pounding pats off a loss for over a decade!!! Yet we supposed to stop???! I know it better to jump off early but not a good idea to jump off while it still winning!!!

                                                          This could be one those losses bro. Like I said I was dying for pats to win last week cause I wanted to play kc as well. But they lost so now to play kc we going against couple the strongest trends in the sport, pats at home and pats off a loss.

                                                          I have no logical matchup wise reason to say to play pats. Yet for me it pats or nothing.
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                                                          • hotcross
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                                                            #30
                                                            Tell you what, first saw Da Manster post a pick for KC +3 at New England.... looked into it a little.....

                                                            The main thing for me, this is the 3rd meeting Mahomes vs Brady (if you're into looking at that sort of thing)

                                                            !st time = Oct.14 2018 KC at NE, final 40-43 Patriots

                                                            2nd time = Jan.20 2019 NE at KC for AFC Championship, final 37-31 Patriots in Overtime

                                                            3rd time = Dec.8 KC at NE.....

                                                            I don't see Brady sweeping the young gun, especially the way the Patriots are in the funk right now on offense. Time seems right for the Chiefs to get this win, outright.

                                                            Chiefs are 8-4 W/L on the season AND 5-1 on the road this year.

                                                            Keep it simple in terms of do you think Brady sweeps Mahomes in 3 straight career meetings?
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                                                            • 2daBank
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by hotcross
                                                              Tell you what, first saw Da Manster post a pick for KC +3 at New England.... looked into it a little.....

                                                              The main thing for me, this is the 3rd meeting Mahomes vs Brady (if you're into looking at that sort of thing)

                                                              !st time = Oct.14 2018 KC at NE, final 40-43 Patriots

                                                              2nd time = Jan.20 2019 NE at KC for AFC Championship, final 37-31 Patriots in Overtime

                                                              3rd time = Dec.8 KC at NE.....

                                                              I don't see Brady sweeping the young gun, especially the way the Patriots are in the funk right now on offense. Time seems right for the Chiefs to get this win, outright.

                                                              Chiefs are 8-4 W/L on the season AND 5-1 on the road this year.

                                                              Keep it simple in terms of do you think Brady sweeps Mahomes in 3 straight career meetings?
                                                              I think never go against pats at home not getting more points. What is it 22 in a row? Throw in 65ish% ats off a loss. Not sure why it be crazy for mahomes to lose to them again? Lot of guys do. The oddity that is football is Eli garbage ass only one who owns them!! The ot game was a beat down at half, they shut mahomes out the entire 1st half., I think it more likely they beat him again than let kc beat them at home where they don’t lose.
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                                                              • hotcross
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                                                                #32
                                                                Current form

                                                                NE Last 4 games (working back recent to past) Patriots scored = 22 road, 13 home, 17 road, 20 road = W/L 2-2

                                                                KC Last 4 games (working back recent to past) Chiefs scored = 40 home, 24 Mexico City, 32 road, 26 home (Matt Moore) = W/L 3-1
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                                                                • 2daBank
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I don’t think there much about current form these teams that says pats. Just pedigree and history:
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                                                                  • ThaTopMoron
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                                    Bucs/Colts over 47

                                                                    Bucs have top run defense but it almost doesn't matter because their secondary is horrible so teams just throw on them

                                                                    Colts missing TY Hilton but they get Parris Campbell back. Colts' OL should give Brissette plenty of time and I think they will move the ball just fine

                                                                    Bucs one of the worst against tight ends, I foresee a big day for Ebron and Doyle too

                                                                    Added bonus, Adam Vinatieri is hurt, so Chase McLaughlin gets kicking duties, can't be worse than Vinatieri

                                                                    Bucs kicker Matt Gay can be a problem too though, missed 3 extra points in one game

                                                                    But I don't see Colts stopping Bucs either. Colts got some injuries in the secondary, Hooker and Rock Yasin both questionable

                                                                    Two teams not too familiar with each other, looks like a shootout
                                                                    Ebron is on the IR and Rogers is also done for the year and prob done as a Colt

                                                                    Campbell hasn't done much when he did play so he's an unknown as JB is still not 100% leading to him being very inconsistent right now (he's the worst rated deep passer)

                                                                    all they gotta do is cover Pascal and with Doyle running more routes = more chances to get home to JB

                                                                    Colts only win if Winston decides to throw 3 picks which is a possibility of course
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                                                                    • juicername
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Heard on some podcast the Pats are 29-3 ATS following a loss. That's insane.

                                                                      Edit: It's Brady who is 29-3 ATS off a loss as an underdog or favorite under a touchdown.
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