one is undeniably top 5 greatest coaches in the history of college football, the other one isnt
great how? why wasnt he considered that at michigan state? how can you deem a coach great when they are gifted with the best players every year
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stevenash
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01-17-11
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#38
^
Who recruited those kids?
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jtoler
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#39
Originally posted by stevenash
^
Who recruited those kids?
u dont have to recruit when they already want to come, again if he's so great why wasnt he great at michigan state, its all about the players even saban will tell u that
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Shafted69
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#40
agree with the OP. trap line. higher ranked team is suppose to be the favorite. expect BAMA to kick some ass !!
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homie1975
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12-24-13
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#41
Originally posted by Shafted69
agree with the OP. trap line. higher ranked team is suppose to be the favorite. expect BAMA to kick some ass !!
rankings and actual odds are often times mutually exclusive.
HFA means way more than ranking.
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2daBank
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01-26-09
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#42
Originally posted by Shafted69
agree with the OP. trap line. higher ranked team is suppose to be the favorite. expect BAMA to kick some ass !!
Not once has a line had any influence on the outcome of a game.
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jtoler
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#43
Originally posted by 2daBank
Not once has a line had any influence on the outcome of a game.
I think it can/does. definitely think players many times take a peek to see what the "experts" say how much they should win or lose by or they hear the line anyway through the week that can psychologically play into performance
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2daBank
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01-26-09
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#44
Originally posted by jtoler
I think it can/does. definitely think players many times take a peek to see what the "experts" say how much they should win or lose by or they hear the line anyway through the week that can psychologically play into performance
Agree to disagree.
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stevenash
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01-17-11
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#45
Originally posted by jtoler
u dont have to recruit when they already want to come, again if he's so great why wasnt he great at michigan state, its all about the players even saban will tell u that
Saban was .500 at Michigan State because of the sanctions he had to inherit.
MSU was stripped of 9 scholarships because George Perles was shady as the day is long.
Considering what he did what that, that's great.
And to answer the other question, they kids want to come to 'Bama because of Saban.
Please stop now.
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2daBank
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01-26-09
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#46
Originally posted by stevenash
Saban was .500 at Michigan State because of the sanctions he had to inherit.
MSU was stripped of 9 scholarships because George Perles was shady as the day is long.
Considering what he did what that, that's great.
And to answer the other question, they kids want to come to 'Bama because of Saban.
Please stop now.
No shit. I don’t recall anyone saying bama got all the best players before saban arrived! Lol
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jtoler
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#47
Originally posted by stevenash
Saban was .500 at Michigan State because of the sanctions he had to inherit.
MSU was stripped of 9 scholarships because George Perles was shady as the day is long.
Considering what he did what that, that's great.
And to answer the other question, they kids want to come to 'Bama because of Saban.
Please stop now.
exactly and what does that have to do with coaching. my alma mater a conference usa school beat saban at lsu in baton rouge. u just cant automatically say a coach is good/great when they win with the best, I could make an argument that he should have more national titles than he has, bama has twice as many players in the nfl than the next school. Id expect u to be on my side in this argument since u said mlb managers have no effect on winning or losing which I disagree with entirely since they make pitching changes saban doesnt call plays the playcallers have more effect on the game than he does imo.
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stevenash
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01-17-11
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#48
^
Saban's a defensive whiz.
He has final say on all defensive calls.
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jtoler
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#49
Originally posted by stevenash
^
Saban's a defensive whiz.
He has final say on all defensive calls.
well there are 15 teams giving up less yds/gm than bama take lsu +7 steve
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GOIRISH
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2072
#50
Originally posted by jtoler
great how? why wasnt he considered that at michigan state? how can you deem a coach great when they are gifted with the best players every year
You’re delusional. he’s won 50% of the national championships in the last 10 years. 8/10 against LSU in the past 10 years.
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jtoler
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#51
Originally posted by GOIRISH
You’re delusional. he’s won 50% of the national championships in the last 10 years. 8/10 against LSU in the past 10 years.
ok and? dont mention the twice as many nfl players and leading in 5 star recruits basically every year, he should win the title every year
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
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#52
Originally posted by jtoler
ok and? dont mention the twice as many nfl players and leading in 5 star recruits basically every year, he should win the title every year
Riddle me this?
In your opinion, who’s a better NCAA fb coach.
Past or present?
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#53
Originally posted by jtoler
ok and? dont mention the twice as many nfl players and leading in 5 star recruits basically every year, he should win the title every year
You clearly have a big bias against pal, lay off the haterade. The guy is great and unlike Dabo he loses his assistants damn near every year making it even more impressive what he has done with this program!!
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swordsandtequila
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02-23-12
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#54
Originally Posted by swordsandtequila LSU had/has the same amount of time to prepare as Bama, both had off weeks.
Originally posted by homie1975
except one guy is named SABAN and the other is ORGERON.
see the difference ??
C'mon homie, my response was aimed at the "extra time to prepare" comment. Had nothing to do with comparing coaches, of course Orgeron has nothing on Saban. But nobody is infallible. The last really good quarterback Saban had plenty of time to prepare for rolled him/them 44-16 so anything's possible
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swordsandtequila
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02-23-12
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#55
Originally posted by jtoler
great how? why wasnt he considered that at michigan state? how can you deem a coach great when they are gifted with the best players every year
Not a Saban fan at all, but nobody is "gifted" the best players, that's just silly. The best coaches tend to get the best players because of just that, they're the best coaches.
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GOIRISH
SBR MVP
09-25-10
2072
#56
Originally posted by swordsandtequila
C'mon homie, my response was aimed at the "extra time to prepare" comment. Had nothing to do with comparing coaches, of course Orgeron has nothing on Saban. But nobody is infallible. The last really good quarterback Saban had plenty of time to prepare for rolled him/them 44-16 so anything's possible
You’re referring to my comment. I know LSU is coming off a bye. Perhaps my comment was worded wrongly. I’m saying that I think Saban benefits more and will see better results out of the extra week to prepare than Ed. I think Ed is doing a great job, but I don’t think he’s close to Saban. That said I really don’t know what to think about this game. If tua was 100% I’d be much more confident in bama.
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swordsandtequila
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02-23-12
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#57
Originally posted by GOIRISH
You’re referring to my comment. I know LSU is coming off a bye. Perhaps my comment was worded wrongly. I’m saying that I think Saban benefits more and will see better results out of the extra week to prepare than Ed. I think Ed is doing a great job, but I don’t think he’s close to Saban. That said I really don’t know what to think about this game. If tua was 100% I’d be much more confident in bama.
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Da Manster!
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07-13-07
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#58
Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
Easiest bet of year is that op will have at least 3 new stupid threads started everyday.
Here are some we can look forward to from sbr’s poster child for pro-abortion.
”Does the hole in my underwear go in front or back?”
”Anybody ever try microwaving a can of soup in the can?”
I seriously just....
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Da Manster!
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07-13-07
17720
#59
well not too sure if this will make a difference or not, but LSU starting LB Michael Divinity is leaving the team for personal reasons...I know the Tigers have depth but he was a key cog to their defense...
Divinity is one of the top defenders for the top-ranked Tigers
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wookieehumper
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11-09-09
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#60
LSU wins straight up. Alabama has swiss cheese defense this year.
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jtoler
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#61
Originally posted by wookieehumper
LSU wins straight up. Alabama has swiss cheese defense this year.
and they havent played a good passing team all yr and wont besides lsu. wait till they get a healthy dose of burrow
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itchypickle
SBR Posting Legend
11-05-09
21452
#62
Bama covers
Tua is fine. They’ll keep him healthy with the rpo all day. Expect the bunch formations as usual and plenty of pop passes. Lewis and Battle will keep Burrow in check enough to win.
Defense has been gashed so far but to be expected while breaking in the freshmen but they have reps now and DC Golden is going to finally trust them with more complex schemes heading down the stretch.
Roll Tide!
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#63
Originally posted by itchypickle
Bama covers
Tua is fine. They’ll keep him healthy with the rpo all day. Expect the bunch formations as usual and plenty of pop passes. Lewis and Battle will keep Burrow in check enough to win.
Defense has been gashed so far but to be expected while breaking in the freshmen but they have reps now and DC Golden is going to finally trust them with more complex schemes heading down the stretch.
Roll Tide!
How do you know Tua fine? Look ahead was much higher which makes me believe nobody knows for sure.
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itchypickle
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11-05-09
21452
#64
Originally posted by 2daBank
How do you know Tua fine? Look ahead was much higher which makes me believe nobody knows for sure.
He’s on the field throwing, planting and doing drills and jogging on it at practice. Not saying he’s 100% but he’ll be ready to go Saturday and they’ll tailor the plays to his strength.
Also helps that LSU lost their senior LB yesterday unexpectedly and Delpit’s ankle will be an issue trying catch in space the guys he’ll be tracking.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#65
How is Bama QB health!!!
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homie1975
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12-24-13
15448
#66
Originally posted by wookieehumper
LSU wins straight up. Alabama has swiss cheese defense this year.
LSU D not exactly lighting it up. See tex-asss game
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Big Bear
SBR Aristocracy
11-01-11
43253
#67
Originally posted by jjgold
How is Bama QB health!!!
game time decision but I’m not buying that and apparently neither is Vegas with this line
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#68
Originally posted by Big Bear
game time decision but I’m not buying that and apparently neither is Vegas with this line
What you mean?? How so? The look ahead before he got hurt was -10 so clearly there some unknown with how he will perform. I have no doubt he playing, the question is just how effective he will be which nobody knows.
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RM Logic
SBR Wise Guy
12-09-13
847
#69
Its definately a no play game but talking with a couple of Alabama friends who are pretty astute they are telling me this Bama team is just not the same caliber as the last 5 years. Lost a alot of NFL guys then had 2 more elite guys get hurt and the younger players are just not as good as they have had in the past.
They would not be surprised if LSU wins this game.
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#70
Originally posted by 2daBank
Not once has a line had any influence on the outcome of a game.
Bank. If you believe that then you are saying that a game has NEVER been fixed, and we KNOW that is not true.