Where does SBR odds get its betting percentages from?

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  • texhooper
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-05-09
    • 10001

    #1
    Where does SBR odds get its betting percentages from?
    I’m pretty sure this has been discussed before, and I think at one point it was 5Dimes but is that still the case?

    I’ve noticed that the SBR Odds percentages are oftentimes quite different than at other free sites. There’s not a lot of lopsided-ness like you see on other sites. For instance, tonight’s USC/Colorado game has 53% on USC but a couple of other sites have it in the 80s for USC. Maybe we’re getting a “sharper” sample of folks in the SBR Odds percentages?

    I know what most people will say...that you can’t rely on any of this shit at all, that if you want real bet percentages that you have to subscribe to a good line service...I’m not gonna do that, I’m just trying to make sense out of what’s available.
  • Itsamazing777
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-14-12
    • 12602

    #2
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    • TheMoneyShot
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-14-07
      • 28672

      #3
      Great post. I found the percentage info at SBR useless. Especially NFL consensus in regards to money. It's like they pull the figure out of their ass.
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      • Tanko
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-19-09
        • 5143

        #4
        Along the same lines, assuming SBR identifies the line source (which I thought was BookMaker?), how often are the lines on SBR updated to match the lines on sportsbooks?

        Does the SBR odds/ticker page update automatically/continuously with the books or is there a few hours delay? Hopefully, its small delay. Since I'm looking at SBR odds ticker page frequently all day (great page btw ), it would be nice if it is continously updated so I don't have to logon on to the various books I use.

        I have seen small differences on odds between SBR and some of my books. Could be just lag or ???
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        • texhooper
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-05-09
          • 10001

          #5
          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
          Great post. I found the percentage info at SBR useless. Especially NFL consensus in regards to money. It's like they pull the figure out of their ass.
          Ha, well if you notice I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt...it does oftentimes seem to never be not greater than roughly a 60/40 split
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          • The General
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-10-05
            • 13279

            #6
            Secret info I've gathered. Or unreliable.
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            • goduke
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-17-10
              • 11580

              #7
              This question will not get a truthful answer from SBR. Books love giving this fake information out
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              • SBR Genie
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-20-14
                • 5459

                #8
                The consensus data presented on the page are provided by the different sportsbooks featured on the SBR odds grid for public consumption.
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                • texhooper
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 10001

                  #9
                  Thanks Genie
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                  • goduke
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-17-10
                    • 11580

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SBR Genie
                    The consensus data presented on the page are provided by the different sportsbooks featured on the SBR odds grid for public consumption.
                    As broad of an answer you can give
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                      Great post. I found the percentage info at SBR useless. Especially NFL consensus in regards to money. It's like they pull the figure out of their ass.
                      Imo they all useless from everywhere. For one why trust the books to give out accurate info? for 2 it really doesn’t matter. Amount of bets or money don’t decide games.
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                      • hubie69
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-16-10
                        • 7329

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SBR Genie
                        The consensus data presented on the page are provided by the different sportsbooks featured on the SBR odds grid for public consumption.
                        This is a terrible answer. It might be true but lets get specific here Genie.
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                        • funnyb25
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 07-09-09
                          • 39663

                          #13
                          There is 1 percentage and a bajillion books. That % is coming from somewhere else..... Where though?

                          Can't be a concensious number with the lines and odds being different.
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                          • TheMoneyShot
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-07
                            • 28672

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                            Imo they all useless from everywhere. For one why trust the books to give out accurate info? for 2 it really doesn’t matter. Amount of bets or money don’t decide games.
                            If I went into detail... I'd be typing all night. SBR percentage is useless. No pattern to it. Now SBR Odds is GREAT (line movement).

                            Pregame is sh#$.

                            SportsInsights is pretty accurate. Not every game the public loses though. But their percentages are more accurate than any site.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Percentages
                              Mean nothing

                              Rookie day
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                If I went into detail... I'd be typing all night. SBR percentage is useless. No pattern to it. Now SBR Odds is GREAT (line movement).

                                Pregame is sh#$.

                                SportsInsights is pretty accurate. Not every game the public loses though. But their percentages are more accurate than any site.
                                It always just been incredibly tough for me to believe books giving out accurate numbers to anyone.

                                Sbr odds very helpful, the good old version not the new crap JJ always trying to shove down our throats that a pain in the ass to read!!

                                I think years ago there was something to the whole bet percentages + line movement thing but like everything else once it becomes common knowledge it worthless.,
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  New sbr odds version is unreal!!
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    New sbr odds version is unreal!!
                                    It’s unreal anyone thought it was a good idea to mess with a great thing, the old version!!

                                    Maybe it cause I don’t have a cape to cap with!!

                                    JJ I would like a sbr cape like you wear!!
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                                    • trytrytry
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-13-06
                                      • 23650

                                      #19
                                      mystery
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                                      • goduke
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-17-10
                                        • 11580

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                        If I went into detail... I'd be typing all night. SBR percentage is useless. No pattern to it. Now SBR Odds is GREAT (line movement).

                                        Pregame is sh#$.

                                        SportsInsights is pretty accurate. Not every game the public loses though. But their percentages are more accurate than any site.
                                        The line movement isn't as accurate. It definitely leaves out line movements. I've watched this and I know Bookmakers feed for one doesnt completely match up with the books actual line movement. It leaves some movements out
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65084

                                          #21
                                          i agree with moneyshot

                                          sportsinsights seem to have the best percentages

                                          and at one time they said the books they used, not sure if they still do


                                          would like to know which sportsbooks sbr uses
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                                          • texhooper
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 10001

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                            i agree with moneyshot

                                            sportsinsights seem to have the best percentages

                                            and at one time they said the books they used, not sure if they still do


                                            would like to know which sportsbooks sbr uses
                                            The sad thing is we’re just not gonna get that answer.
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                                            • funnyb25
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-09-09
                                              • 39663

                                              #23
                                              This is a type of question that correlates with asking the book why their site is down or when it will be back up and they respond that everything is working fine when everyone on Earth knows it's down and not working fine.

                                              Not gonna get an answer.
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                                              • koz-man
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-21-08
                                                • 7102

                                                #24
                                                I've noticed that SBR and BetOnLine have similar odds a lot of the time.
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                  • 28672

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by goduke

                                                  The line movement isn't as accurate. It definitely leaves out line movements. I've watched this and I know Bookmakers feed for one doesnt completely match up with the books actual line movement. It leaves some movements out
                                                  I agree. I meant to say.... SBR Odds is the best it's ever been. There's times.... months and years past it wasn't as consistent. And I'm sure there are days you still have to search for precise movement. But generally it does tell you where the moves are... but probably not time stamped as quick as it should. If you take the SBR information and match it with SportsInsights percentages... you can piece the puzzle together. It's not 100% a guarantee... nothing in life is. But it's somewhat helpful if you consistently examine material.... and print out past outcomes for your own review.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Why does
                                                    It matter!


                                                    It
                                                    Means nothing capping
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82839

                                                      #27
                                                      I never look at it. Cap the game..not where the money is on.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        People think fading the public works let me know how that turns out
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          Why does
                                                          It matter!


                                                          It
                                                          Means nothing capping
                                                          if it means nothing, why not say what books?

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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Disclosures /Legality


                                                            Books do not want it public
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                                                            • goduke
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-17-10
                                                              • 11580

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Why does
                                                              It matter!


                                                              It
                                                              Means nothing capping
                                                              If it doesnt matter why is it such secretly guarded information and manipulated? Give me a straight answer for this and then I'll tell you if it matters
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                                                              • Mr KLC
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-19-07
                                                                • 31097

                                                                #32
                                                                I asked this question a couple of years ago, and I was told by one of the mods (can't remember who) that they used a single book, but per agreement, could not divulge which one it was. Always just assumed it was probably Bookmaker.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Disclosure Laws


                                                                  Agreements with books to display although names cannot be revealed
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                                                                  • Big Bear
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 11-01-11
                                                                    • 43253

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                                    Great post. I found the percentage info at SBR useless. Especially NFL consensus in regards to money. It's like they pull the figure out of their ass.
                                                                    hmmmm
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                                                                    • pavyracer
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                                      • 82839

                                                                      #35
                                                                      People forget that a lot of money is bet in Euro and Asian books that SBR doesn't track and a ton is bet illegally in Asian markets. The consensus is of no use when the betting syndicate of Macau mafia paid 10 million to Wisconsin athletic department to lose to Illinois.
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