NL Wild Card: Milwaukee (Woodruff) +160 at Washington (Scherzer) -170

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  • milwaukee mike
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    • 08-22-07
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    #36
    Originally posted by lakerboy
    Okay fair enough but the Brewers lost last game yesterday. They limped in. I don't think they will do much vs scherzer.
    totally agree nats have a big starting pitching advantage... brewers didn't play cain or braun yesterday, and after the cardinals built a big lead over the cubs, the brewers gave up. had the lead in the 9th, could've pitched hader or pomeranz but didn't use either, and blew it.
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    • thomorino
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      • 06-01-17
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      #37
      Originally posted by milwaukee mike

      just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true

      brewers bullpen era in september was the lowest in the league, and the nationals bullpen is the worst of any postseason team

      https://www.mlb.com/news/ranking-the...eason-bullpens
      If you watch baseball you are aware the Brewers bullpen was not very good this year, Brewers schedule in September was mostly against offenses far inferior to the nats.
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      • thomorino
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        • 06-01-17
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        #38
        The other likely problem for Milwaukee is the nats hammer lefties and harder and pomeranz are 2 of Brewers relievers Lilley to be used.
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        • milwaukee mike
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          • 08-22-07
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          #39
          Originally posted by thomorino
          If you watch baseball you are aware the Brewers bullpen was not very good this year, Brewers schedule in September was mostly against offenses far inferior to the nats.
          what does "this year" have to do with right now?

          since suter came back, and adding pomeranz, the brewers bullpen has been fantastic. would you rather have hader or whatever bum the nationals are gonna throw out there
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          • thomorino
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            • 06-01-17
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            #40
            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
            what does "this year" have to do with right now?

            since suter came back, and adding pomeranz, the brewers bullpen has been fantastic. would you rather have hader or whatever bum the nationals are gonna throw out there
            Again, the nats hammer lefties, hader and pomeranz aren't Lilley to be strong performers here, and the Brewers schedule was very easy in September. Miami, Padres, reds with votto hurt. The Brewers bullpen has struggled all year, capping off a small stretch of games against weak offenses is stupid.
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            • thomorino
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              • 06-01-17
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              #41
              Anything can happen in 1 game but the value looks like it's on nats first five run line. Brewers offense has struggled on the road all year when not in hitters parks like Miller.
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              • thecutter
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                • 02-28-14
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                #42
                KKK josh just blew another save the other night. It’s a no brainer that the brewers have had nothing to offer once the heart of their teams knee exploded . They played cupcake teams all month. Scherzer and if they want they can use SS after
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                • thomorino
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                  • 06-01-17
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by thecutter
                  KKK josh just blew another save the other night. It’s a no brainer that the brewers have had nothing to offer once the heart of their teams knee exploded . They played cupcake teams all month. Scherzer and if they want they can use SS after
                  Yeah Strasbourg out of the bullpen is big.
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                  • krk1030
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                    • 08-13-08
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                    #44
                    Woodruff is essentially just an opener right?

                    Hasn't thrown more than 2 innings on months.

                    Any word on nationals plan post mad max? If he goes 7 strong would they close with Corbin or Strasburgh?
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                    • beavis13
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                      • 06-18-14
                      • 2823

                      #45
                      Originally posted by krk1030
                      Woodruff is essentially just an opener right?

                      Hasn't thrown more than 2 innings on months.

                      Any word on nationals plan post mad max? If he goes 7 strong would they close with Corbin or Strasburgh?
                      They could. Would sink them going any further though.
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                      • thecutter
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                        • 02-28-14
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                        #46
                        Not necessarily they could come back with max for a game 1 and in game 2 use either of those two guys that hadn’t gone out . Considering this scenario even happens
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                        • beavis13
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                          • 06-18-14
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by thecutter
                          Not necessarily they could come back with max for a game 1 and in game 2 use either of those two guys that hadn’t gone out . Considering this scenario even happens
                          You’re saying Max goes 7 then starts again two days later?

                          I’d say you start whoever doesn’t come in game 1 and maybe Max game two. Still a bad option against a better dodgers team.
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
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                            #48
                            All
                            Over Wash


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                            • beavis13
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                              • 06-18-14
                              • 2823

                              #49
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              All
                              Over Wash


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                              First 5 agree.
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                              • milwaukee mike
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                                • 08-22-07
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by thecutter
                                KKK josh just blew another save the other night. It’s a no brainer that the brewers have had nothing to offer once the heart of their teams knee exploded . They played cupcake teams all month. Scherzer and if they want they can use SS after
                                "another"? he had 12 straight saves, then gave up one fluky hr to hilliard, would've been an out in any other stadium than coors field

                                and they didn't play cupcake teams all month... last 30 days included

                                7 against cubs
                                2 against houston
                                3 at st louis

                                the brewers went 8-4 in those games so it's not as if they just beat up on cupcakes and can't beat anyone decent without yelich
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                                • OVAKUL
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                                  • 09-16-17
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                                  #51
                                  looking ahead do you think WAS has a 50% better chance to win World Series than MIL?
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                                  • OVAKUL
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                                    • 09-16-17
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by OVAKUL
                                    looking ahead do you think WAS has a 50% better chance to win World Series than MIL?
                                    it's what futures prices suggests
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                                    • krk1030
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                                      • 08-13-08
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by beavis13
                                      You’re saying Max goes 7 then starts again two days later?

                                      I’d say you start whoever doesn’t come in game 1 and maybe Max game two. Still a bad option against a better dodgers team.
                                      I would think game 1 you start Corbin (say stras pitches 2 innings on wc) then bring stras back for game 2. I don't think that's crazy.
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                                      • thomorino
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                                        • 06-01-17
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike

                                        "another"? he had 12 straight saves, then gave up one fluky hr to hilliard, would've been an out in any other stadium than coors field

                                        and they didn't play cupcake teams all month... last 30 days included

                                        7 against cubs
                                        2 against houston
                                        3 at st louis

                                        the brewers went 8-4 in those games so it's not as if they just beat up on cupcakes and can't beat anyone decent without yelich
                                        The Cubs hadany me njuries, most team the Brewers beat this past month were trash.
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                                        • beavis13
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                                          • 06-18-14
                                          • 2823

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by OVAKUL
                                          looking ahead do you think WAS has a 50% better chance to win World Series than MIL?
                                          I dont see either beating the dodgers. Only teams in NL equipped to do that are playing each other in the other NL series.
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                                          • thomorino
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                                            • 06-01-17
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                                            #56
                                            I'm on nats first 5 run line at -120.
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                                            • thecutter
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                                              • 02-28-14
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by beavis13
                                              You’re saying Max goes 7 then starts again two days later?

                                              I’d say you start whoever doesn’t come in game 1 and maybe Max game two. Still a bad option against a better dodgers team.
                                              Game 1 is Thursday or Friday?
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                                              • milwaukee mike
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                                                • 08-22-07
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by OVAKUL
                                                looking ahead do you think WAS has a 50% better chance to win World Series than MIL?
                                                well they have more than a 50% better chance of advancing based on the wild-card game (63% nats to 37% brewers is 70% more), so that makes sense
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                                                • beavis13
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                                                  • 06-18-14
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by krk1030
                                                  I would think game 1 you start Corbin (say stras pitches 2 innings on wc) then bring stras back for game 2. I don't think that's crazy.
                                                  Stras is fragile as Fukk. Maybe not crazy but I wouldn’t put money on that working.
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                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                    • 04-02-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by beavis13
                                                    I dont see either beating the dodgers. Only teams in NL equipped to do that are playing each other in the other NL series.
                                                    Not necessarily. The five game series might be the best chance to get Houston and dodgers out.
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                                                    • beavis13
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                                                      • 06-18-14
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by thecutter
                                                      Game 1 is Thursday or Friday?
                                                      Thursday
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                                                      • beavis13
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                                                        • 06-18-14
                                                        • 2823

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                        Not necessarily. The five game series might be the best chance to get Houston and dodgers out.
                                                        Not with who they are gonna play and what whoever wins has to do to their rotation to win the one game playin.
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                                                        • milwaukee mike
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                                                          • 08-22-07
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          Not necessarily. The five game series might be the best chance to get Houston and dodgers out.
                                                          yeah and this is a weird year... can't remember another time when there was a 50/50 favorite in each league
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                                                          • Smoke
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                                                            • 10-09-09
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                                                            #64
                                                            Nats runline?
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                                                            • stevenash
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                                                              • 01-17-11
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Smoke
                                                              Nats runline?
                                                              Betting run lines on home teams is risky business. The
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                                                              • slayer14
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                                                                • 08-12-13
                                                                • 22022

                                                                #66
                                                                Only yelich had good batting average against scherzer the rest cant seem to do any damage against him

                                                                Max Scherzer Batter vs Pitching Stats

                                                                Max Scherzer vs. SelectArizonaAtlantaBaltimoreBostonChica go CubsChicago SoxCincinnatiClevelandColoradoDetroitHou stonKansas CityLA AngelsLA DodgersMiamiMilwaukeeMinnesotaNY MetsNY YankeesOaklandPhiladelphiaPittsburghSan DiegoSan FranciscoSeattleSt. LouisTampa BayTexasTorontoWashington - Next Start: 10/1 8:08 ET vs. MIL
                                                                Milwaukee Brewers Career statistics vs. Max Scherzer
                                                                BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
                                                                Orlando Arcia 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 .667 .667 1.000 1.667
                                                                Ryan Braun 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 .000 .000 .000 .000
                                                                Lorenzo Cain 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 .000 .063 .000 .063
                                                                Ben Gamel 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .667 1.000
                                                                Tuffy Gosewisch 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .250 .400 .250 .650
                                                                Yasmani Grandal 13 1 0 0 0 0 1 7 .077 .143 .077 .220
                                                                Mike Moustakas 36 6 1 0 1 4 1 11 .167 .189 .278 .467
                                                                Hernan Perez 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000
                                                                Travis Shaw 6 2 0 0 1 1 2 1 .333 .500 .833 1.333
                                                                Cory Spangenberg 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000
                                                                Eric Thames 9 3 2 0 0 1 2 3 .333 .455 .556 1.010
                                                                Christian Yelich 29 10 1 1 3 5 2 8 .345 .387 .759 1.146
                                                                Totals 143 26 6 1 5 11 9 48 .182 .235 .343 .578
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                                                                • thecutter
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                                                                  • 02-28-14
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Yeah I wouldn’t see a problem with Corbin game 1 on the road he’s solid and has exp vs Dodgers from Arizona
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                                                                  • Buckandadime
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                                                                    • 04-21-15
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                    Anything can happen in 1 game but the value looks like it's on nats first five run line. Brewers offense has struggled on the road all year when not in hitters parks like Miller.
                                                                    So, are you calling Wash R/L a "value" play?
                                                                    Wanna wager accordingly..
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                                                                    • thomorino
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                                                                      • 06-01-17
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime

                                                                      So, are you calling Wash R/L a "value" play?
                                                                      Wanna wager accordingly..
                                                                      I already bet it at -.5 -120.
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                                                                      • Otters27
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                                                                        • 07-14-07
                                                                        • 30760

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Game is tomorrow?
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