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  • SBR Tony
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    • 01-31-18
    • 3934

    #1
    Last seasons NFL New Hire Head Coaches went 0-7 in week 1
    this season you have 8 new head coaches


    kliff kingsbury ( arizona cardinals ) vs. detroit lions

    zac taylor ( cincinnati bengals ) vs. seattle seahawks

    freddie kitchens ( cleveland browns ) vs. tennessee titans

    vic fangio ( denver broncos ) vs. oakland raiders

    matt lafleur ( green bay packers ) vs. Chicago bears

    brian flores ( miami dolphins ) vs. baltimore ravens

    adam gase ( new york jets ) vs. buffalo bills

    bruce arians ( tampa bay buccaneers ) vs. san francisco 49ers


    * Comparatively in 2017 six New hire Head coaches went 4-2
  • Roscoe_Word
    SBR MVP
    • 02-28-12
    • 3999

    #2
    Was that 0-7 SU or ATS, Tony?

    In another thread there was a discussion about the viability of trends.

    This looks like a viable trend that I don't think the public greatly considers.

    Thanks for this post. (unable to transfer a few bettin pts)
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #3
      I actually like a few the new coaches this week.
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      • SBR Tony
        Moderator
        • 01-31-18
        • 3934

        #4
        Originally posted by Roscoe_Word
        Was that 0-7 SU or ATS, Tony?

        In another thread there was a discussion about the viability of trends.

        This looks like a viable trend that I don't think the public greatly considers.

        Thanks for this post. (unable to transfer a few bettin pts)
        this is SU, I would have to go back to see what the ATS records are.

        I wouldn't put too much into it, as you can see from my post the season before 6 new hire head coaches went 4-2

        maybe you're on the fence on one of these matchups, just throwing it out there
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          Originally posted by SBR Tony
          this is SU, I would have to go back to see what the ATS records are.

          I wouldn't put too much into it, as you can see from my post the season before 6 new hire head coaches went 4-2

          maybe you're on the fence on one of these matchups, just throwing it out there
          Tough for me to remember off top of my head but wanna say this season we have few coaches taking over way better situations than last.

          Jets, pack, Browns all playoff caliber teams. Although I will be against browns ats week 1.. I do like jets quite a bit, pack too.
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          • SBR Tony
            Moderator
            • 01-31-18
            • 3934

            #6
            Originally posted by Roscoe_Word
            Was that 0-7 SU or ATS, Tony?

            In another thread there was a discussion about the viability of trends.

            This looks like a viable trend that I don't think the public greatly considers.

            Thanks for this post. (unable to transfer a few bettin pts)
            the ATS record was 1-6
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            • CJ
              SBR MVP
              • 09-21-13
              • 1261

              #7
              While this is worth noting, it is also important to note that the 0-7 mark was the worst ever, displacing an 0-6 record set in 2001.

              The ATS record was 1-6, with Matt Nagy's Bears getting the only cover at +7.

              Here's the scores and spread (and some comments) on each game:
              1. Packers d. Bears (+7) 24-23 - Aaron Rodgers knocked out of the game, returns to lead a 21 point comeback on SNF.
              2. Bengals d. Colts (+1) 34-23 - Andrew Luck's return game. The Colts were driving to win late in the 4th when Jack Doyle fumbled, leading to an 83 yd Cincy TD return to seal the game.
              3. Dolphins d. Titans (PK) 27-20 - A massive weather delay derailed this one, resulting in a game that took over 7 hours. The Dolphins scored on a 102 yd kickoff return following the delay and then a 75 yd TD pass shortly after.
              4. Redskins d. Cardinals (-2) 24-6 - Sam Bradford!
              5. Jaguars d. Giants (+3) 20-15 - Eli tossed one of his signature 4th qtr pick 6's, but still had a chance to win before tossing more incompletions inside Jags territory to turn the ball over on downs.
              MNF:
              6. Jets d. Lions (-6.5) 48-17 - Hilarious game showcasing Matt Patricia's complete and utter incompetence, as the Jets players admitted to knowing exactly what plays the Lions were going to run all night.
              7. Rams d. Raiders (+4.5) 33-13 - Oakland led 13-10 at halftime before Derek Carr got confused as to which team he was on and kept throwing the ball to the Rams defense, including a pick-6 with under two minutes to make the score look more lopsided.
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              • CJ
                SBR MVP
                • 09-21-13
                • 1261

                #8
                Originally posted by SBR Tony
                the ATS record was 1-6
                Gah, I rambled on too much and you beat me to the punch haha
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CJ
                  While this is worth noting, it is also important to note that the 0-7 mark was the worst ever, displacing an 0-6 record set in 2001.

                  The ATS record was 1-6, with Matt Nagy's Bears getting the only cover at +7.

                  Here's the scores and spread (and some comments) on each game:
                  1. Packers d. Bears (+7) 24-23 - Aaron Rodgers knocked out of the game, returns to lead a 21 point comeback on SNF.
                  2. Bengals d. Colts (+1) 34-23 - Andrew Luck's return game. The Colts were driving to win late in the 4th when Jack Doyle fumbled, leading to an 83 yd Cincy TD return to seal the game.
                  3. Dolphins d. Titans (PK) 27-20 - A massive weather delay derailed this one, resulting in a game that took over 7 hours. The Dolphins scored on a 102 yd kickoff return following the delay and then a 75 yd TD pass shortly after.
                  4. Redskins d. Cardinals (-2) 24-6 - Sam Bradford!
                  5. Jaguars d. Giants (+3) 20-15 - Eli tossed one of his signature 4th qtr pick 6's, but still had a chance to win before tossing more incompletions inside Jags territory to turn the ball over on downs.
                  MNF:
                  6. Jets d. Lions (-6.5) 48-17 - Hilarious game showcasing Matt Patricia's complete and utter incompetence, as the Jets players admitted to knowing exactly what plays the Lions were going to run all night.
                  7. Rams d. Raiders (+4.5) 33-13 - Oakland led 13-10 at halftime before Derek Carr got confused as to which team he was on and kept throwing the ball to the Rams defense, including a pick-6 with under two minutes to make the score look more lopsided.
                  Matt p surely gives the cardinals hope, might be his second year but he still sucks and I don’t think his team likes him much, lol.
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                  • SBR Tony
                    Moderator
                    • 01-31-18
                    • 3934

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CJ
                    Gah, I rambled on too much and you beat me to the punch haha
                    that's fine, plus you gave more details
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                    • CJ
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-21-13
                      • 1261

                      #11
                      Let's look at the 2019 match-ups again, with the spreads:

                      1. Matt Lafleur, Packers +3 @ Bears
                      2. Zac Taylor, Bengals +9 @ Seahawks
                      3. Freddie Kitchens, Browns -6 vs Titans
                      4. Adam Gase, Jets -3 vs Bills
                      5. Bruce Arians, Bucs PK vs 49ers
                      6. Brian Flores, Dolphins +6.5 vs Ravens
                      7. Kliff Kingsbury, Cardinals +2.5 vs Lions
                      8. Vic Fangio, Broncos -1 @ Raiders

                      Only one heavy favorite, and I don't expect Kitchens to give away his plays like Patricia last year. Conversely, Taylor is probably screwed. These eight coaches are surely aware of last year's 0-7 futility, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-3 mark this year.
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                      • JayDr3am
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-06-14
                        • 18260

                        #12
                        I LOVE a new coach this week
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                        • NardVa
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-02-07
                          • 8325

                          #13
                          Tampa Bay should win easily over a bad San Fran team that's lacking talent at QB, RB and WR.
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                          • SmokingKing
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-14-19
                            • 1234

                            #14
                            go against last year's trend is my philosophy.
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                            • SmokingKing
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-14-19
                              • 1234

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CJ
                              Let's look at the 2019 match-ups again, with the spreads:

                              1. Matt Lafleur, Packers +3 @ Bears
                              2. Zac Taylor, Bengals +9 @ Seahawks
                              3. Freddie Kitchens, Browns -6 vs Titans
                              4. Adam Gase, Jets -3 vs Bills
                              5. Bruce Arians, Bucs PK vs 49ers
                              6. Brian Flores, Dolphins +6.5 vs Ravens
                              7. Kliff Kingsbury, Cardinals +2.5 vs Lions
                              8. Vic Fangio, Broncos -1 @ Raiders

                              Only one heavy favorite, and I don't expect Kitchens to give away his plays like Patricia last year. Conversely, Taylor is probably screwed. These eight coaches are surely aware of last year's 0-7 futility, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-3 mark this year.
                              looking at this list my guess is they should do better than last year but not by much. i am picking Lafleur to get a win on the road. maybe Fangio has a chance too. at home i could see Kichens, Gase and Arians get the win but could also see them get upsetted. Gase and Arians arent new at head coaching so that gives them a small edge. i got the new hires going 3-5 or 4-4 SUATS
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                              • StackinGreen
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-09-10
                                • 12140

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NardVa
                                Tampa Bay should win easily over a bad San Fran team that's lacking talent at QB, RB and WR.
                                Yes, I don't get all the SF love, where's that coming from?
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                                • goduke
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-17-10
                                  • 11580

                                  #17
                                  Everytime SBR posts something like this you have to automatically go against it. What’s the benefit for SBR employees to post info like this?
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                                  • StackinGreen
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-09-10
                                    • 12140

                                    #18
                                    Arians Kitchens and LaFleur have the best shot

                                    3-5 probably, 4-4 maybe, not a statistical difference either way
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                                    • MrSink
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-30-08
                                      • 8087

                                      #19
                                      cool stat
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Good stat

                                        Tony Always looking for an angle
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                                        • SBR Tony
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-31-18
                                          • 3934

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SBR Tony
                                          this season you have 8 new head coaches


                                          kliff kingsbury ( arizona cardinals ) vs. detroit lions

                                          zac taylor ( cincinnati bengals ) vs. seattle seahawks

                                          freddie kitchens ( cleveland browns ) vs. tennessee titans

                                          vic fangio ( denver broncos ) vs. oakland raiders

                                          matt lafleur ( green bay packers ) vs. Chicago bears

                                          brian flores ( miami dolphins ) vs. baltimore ravens

                                          adam gase ( new york jets ) vs. buffalo bills

                                          bruce arians ( tampa bay buccaneers ) vs. san francisco 49ers


                                          * Comparatively in 2017 six New hire Head coaches went 4-2
                                          New hire Head coaches 1-5 with 2 games pending

                                          Kingsbury looked dead in the water but has a chance to be the 2nd coach to get a win
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                                          • SBR Tony
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-31-18
                                            • 3934

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by goduke
                                            Everytime SBR posts something like this you have to automatically go against it. What’s the benefit for SBR employees to post info like this?

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                                            • SBR Tony
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-31-18
                                              • 3934

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SBR Tony
                                              this season you have 8 new head coaches


                                              kliff kingsbury ( arizona cardinals ) vs. detroit lions

                                              zac taylor ( cincinnati bengals ) vs. seattle seahawks

                                              freddie kitchens ( cleveland browns ) vs. tennessee titans

                                              vic fangio ( denver broncos ) vs. oakland raiders

                                              matt lafleur ( green bay packers ) vs. Chicago bears

                                              brian flores ( miami dolphins ) vs. baltimore ravens

                                              adam gase ( new york jets ) vs. buffalo bills

                                              bruce arians ( tampa bay buccaneers ) vs. san francisco 49ers


                                              * Comparatively in 2017 six New hire Head coaches went 4-2
                                              New hire Head coaches went 1-6-1
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