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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Why do Many increase their Bet Amount per on Football ?
    Seen it for years... Many years !


    Good relatively sane guys will be betting $50-100 on a baseball game but as soon as FB starts they bet 300.00 dollars pre game w/same BR
  • juicername
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-14-15
    • 6906

    #2
    Illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other persons.

    Everyone watch a ton of games and think they can spot things no one else can.

    They can't.
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      Originally posted by juicername


      Illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other persons.

      Everyone watch a ton of games and think they can spot things no one else can.

      They can't.





      It is as if Football casts a spell on some people
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Less games so can bet more

        Not everyday like other sports
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          Quick answer is because the limits are raised and we can, so we do.

          But I like juicer's response...

          Originally posted by juicername
          Illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other persons.

          Everyone watch a ton of games and think they can spot things no one else can.

          They can't.
          Sammy turn Pro, you deserve the benefits.

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          • veriableodds
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-22-17
            • 5093

            #6
            Just like the super bowl?? why is so much bet on a game where their is no edge?? ITS all money management and strategic investing. What amazes me is how major articles, pro bettors, information books all talk about 1-2% per play. Reality is that(1-2%) it is suicide and if you want life in this industry I would rethink it.
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            • The General
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-10-05
              • 13279

              #7
              Something to do with the length of time we're willing to view the event.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                love it all
                looking for cash now
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                • KiDBaZkiT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-20-09
                  • 14962

                  #9
                  Limited opportunity. Most teams get 16 games in pro and only 12-13 in college typically.
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #10
                    Originally posted by veriableodds
                    Just like the super bowl?? why is so much bet on a game where their is no edge?? ITS all money management and strategic investing. What amazes me is how major articles, pro bettors, information books all talk about 1-2% per play. Reality is that(1-2%) it is suicide and if you want life in this industry I would rethink it.
                    I disagree.

                    Been working for decades with .75% to 2.5%.

                    1-2% works out pretty well.

                    It's those 5% and more guys that can run into far more trouble.

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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #11
                      veriableodds & KVB


                      Bottom line... Gotta pick winners

                      However

                      MM is the gold key for a profitable gambler
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        Picking winners, many of us would argue, is the easy part.

                        It's all that other bullshit that we have to keep in control of that causes the problems.

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                        • KiDBaZkiT
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 14962

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          I disagree.

                          Been working for decades with .75% to 2.5%.

                          1-2% works out pretty well.

                          It's those 5% and more guys that can run into far more trouble.

                          All in wagers are where its at. After a few in a row then reduce bet size, if u cannot get on a winning streak you werent winning shit anyway.
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #14
                            wow

                            what a bad thread

                            jj had the best info in here

                            so that says alot
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #15
                              Cause they have somehow convinced themselves they nfl experts!!! Lmao. As if there is such a thing!!
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                wow

                                what a bad thread

                                jj had the best info in here

                                so that says alot
                                Holy shit, not sure if that means I shouldn’t even bother reading or it is filled w hilarious stupidity??
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 2daBank


                                  Cause they have somehow convinced themselves they nfl experts!!! Lmao.


                                  Might be something to that ^
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                    Cause they have somehow convinced themselves they nfl experts!!! Lmao. As if there is such a thing!!
                                    I was actually thinking of NCAAF. I can get down more overall on the Totals (overall) than some MLB, and obviously for the sides and ML's. Also, we can bet more at early lines, the MLB overnight limits are stupid, even for dummy accounts we set up.

                                    The bankroll, or initial investment, will rise a little for some of the football funds, so the bets will naturally be bigger. It does get offset a bit by less volume, but in the end there might not be that much less volume. Between all the strategies I will make a ton of football plays.

                                    NCAAF offers two markets that remain very exploitable, especially in the brick and mortar setting. This is why I've been making trips to Tahoe, and then Vegas, we are setting up for football.

                                    NCAA Football, that is.

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                                    • BigdaddyQH
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-13-09
                                      • 19530

                                      #19
                                      Rudy is correct. JJ actually has the underlying answer. You can only play on a team once per week, not 2-7 times a week. The problem with most of you guys in here is that you think this is a social hour. You lie about your wagers and the about of money you have. You open ourselves up to ridicule almost every day. You shoot your mouths off and then cower down when you are called on it. KVB is a perfect example. He will soon be crowned the "Chicken S**t" of SBR when he fails to take my challenge.

                                      You guys are not nearly cut throat enough to be successful gamblers. If you want to be successful, not only do you have to know what you are doing, but you cannot allow other distractions, like people, get in your way. If you are serious about your wagering, and want to meet with some success, you have to stick with the program and f**k everyone else and what they think. If you do not believe that YOU are the only important person in here, you will never become a winner over all.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        I was actually thinking of NCAAF. I can get down more overall on the Totals (overall) than some MLB.

                                        The bankroll, or initial investment, will rise a little for some of the football funds, so the bets will naturally be bigger. It does get offset a bit by less volume, but in the end there might not be that much less volume. Between all the strategies I will make a ton of football plays.

                                        NCAAF offers two markets that remain very exploitable, especially in the brick and mortar setting. This is why I've been making trips to Tahoe, and then Vegas, we are setting up for football.

                                        NCAA Football, that is.

                                        Ncaa football is a more reasonable thing to get down more on, not for me really cause I’m typically really busy in fall and don’t put in the necessary work. There def plenty of edges to find in that sport tho. It the nfl that is crazy to bet more on and lots of guys do!!!
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          Ncaa football is a more reasonable thing to get down more on, not for me really cause I’m typically really busy in fall and don’t put in the necessary work. There def plenty of edges to find in that sport tho. It the nfl that is crazy to bet more on and lots of guys do!!!
                                          They love the rush and if you are watching, the production often times feeds right into that.

                                          Wins encourage more betting and losses can be close,bad calls, bad beats, "the right side but it lost" etc that just feed into more bets.

                                          For longer term winners, sometimes it's best not to watch. As I wrote about years ago in the CFL, what happens on the field creates the stats and perceptions and sometimes some betting strategies are blown out, the few times the market tries to discourage players from hitting it again.

                                          It's a hit me baby one more time type deal.

                                          Good Luck today Banker, I need to get to capping.

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                                          • ChocMilk23
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-04-17
                                            • 1924

                                            #22
                                            Preseason has been good to me so I bet more
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                                            • Biff41
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-23-14
                                              • 1234

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Less games so can bet more

                                              Not everyday like other sports
                                              One thing to add; 3 games in a row can mess up some handicapping system. A team can get some lucky hits on day 1 and go dry with bats on day 2.
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                                              • Big Bear
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 11-01-11
                                                • 43253

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                Seen it for years... Many years !


                                                Good relatively sane guys will be betting $50-100 on a baseball game but as soon as FB starts they bet 300.00 dollars pre game w/same BR
                                                first off stay in your lane old timer

                                                and 2nd b/c there are less opportunities

                                                you gotta pick your spots and drop the hammer
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                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-30-08
                                                  • 81450

                                                  #25
                                                  Sammy, we like to bet more on games that we watch.

                                                  We watch football.

                                                  Sammy, we do not watch baseball.
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65084

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                    Rudy is correct.
                                                    Wow

                                                    I'm not even arguing with Bigdaddy??????

                                                    I must be on my way out of this life since Ive made peace with almost everyone
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                                                    • veriableodds
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-22-17
                                                      • 5093

                                                      #27
                                                      So many variables, different styles(volume, favs, dogs, value, spot, ect) of investing its hard to pin point the correct answer. Two factors holds true for the most part I have noticed. If you achieve 8% roi per year, which is semi average and can be as low as 3 to 4% some years. How much is invested total as in bets per year x % of bankroll per bet = bottom line. 8% of your bottom line would be the return.
                                                      So many other factors can be added to this its not funny, example; you made some and your on the top of a re adjust tier you may increase each % per play until a set discipline has been achieved or a low line of the re adjust has been hit. LOL stuff can be argued all day but so many ways and strategic possible(s) to wager more than your avg per play.
                                                      If the books are going to take my money as in two for the money they are going to have to rip it out of my talons
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                        They love the rush and if you are watching, the production often times feeds right into that.

                                                        Wins encourage more betting and losses can be close,bad calls, bad beats, "the right side but it lost" etc that just feed into more bets.

                                                        For longer term winners, sometimes it's best not to watch. As I wrote about years ago in the CFL, what happens on the field creates the stats and perceptions and sometimes some betting strategies are blown out, the few times the market tries to discourage players from hitting it again.

                                                        It's a hit me baby one more time type deal.

                                                        Good Luck today Banker, I need to get to capping.

                                                        Lol. Same here, havnt even started looking at card yet.

                                                        I don’t watch that much nfl anymore and imagine will be even less once they start challenging pass interference, that is gonna be really stupid!!
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                                                        • Roscoe_Word
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-28-12
                                                          • 3999

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                          Sammy, we like to bet more on games that we watch.

                                                          We watch football.

                                                          Sammy, we do not watch baseball.
                                                          Yep. Agree with that.
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                                                          • firedawg
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 10-08-08
                                                            • 39219

                                                            #30
                                                            Non pro giving advise



                                                            Unbelievable
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                                                            • The General
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 13279

                                                              #31
                                                              Something to do with viewing pleasure. I don't post for my health.
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                                                              • Sam Odom
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-30-05
                                                                • 58063

                                                                #32
                                                                Good thread men...

                                                                very informative !!
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Sammy the more you bet the more respected you are here
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                                                                  • firedawg
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 10-08-08
                                                                    • 39219

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    Sammy the more you bet the more respected you are here
                                                                    Wrong
                                                                    Longtime non pro posters get zero respect
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                                                                    • 7deuceoff$uit
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-08-16
                                                                      • 2212

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Because Seaweed comes out with huge plays during football.
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