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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65084

    #36
    this has been horrible course management from both fleetwood and lowry
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    • USCPHILLYGUY
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-15-12
      • 21746

      #37
      Fatty what technique does your Muni use to “smooth the greens” to make them easier I’ll let our superintendent know
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #38
        that fwy bunker shot you go for the homerun shot

        worst case scenario, he chunks in 50 yards forward

        what was he doing, trying to draw a 133 yard wedge shot from bunker with a bunker that has a deep face?
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        • funnyb25
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-09-09
          • 39663

          #39
          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
          that fwy bunker shot you go for the homerun shot

          worst case scenario, he chunks in 50 yards forward

          what was he doing, trying to draw a 133 yard wedge shot from bunker?
          Moronic decision making
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          • Stallion
            SBR MVP
            • 03-21-10
            • 3617

            #40
            JJ, You wouldnt break 100 on that course.
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            • funnyb25
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              • 07-09-09
              • 39663

              #41
              Originally posted by Stallion
              JJ, You wouldnt break 100 on ANY course.
              Fixed
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              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65084

                #42
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                that fwy bunker shot you go for the homerun shot

                worst case scenario, he chunks in 50 yards forward

                what was he doing, trying to draw a 133 yard wedge shot from bunker with a bunker that has a deep face?
                the worst case is actually catching it thin

                but thats why 90% catching it fat

                10% hero shot
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                • funnyb25
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                  • 07-09-09
                  • 39663

                  #43
                  Increasing lead with a bogey....Garbage effort.
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65084

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Stallion
                    JJ, You wouldnt break 100 on that course.
                    your local pro would not break 100 there today, especially without spotters
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                    • funnyb25
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                      • 07-09-09
                      • 39663

                      #45
                      No van de Velde burn here either.
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                      • Plaza23
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-29-13
                        • 7392

                        #46
                        What happened to JB Holmes?

                        66
                        68
                        69
                        85 ?????
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                        • thechaoz
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-23-09
                          • 12154

                          #47
                          Originally posted by juicername
                          Too easy? Isn't it the same course for all players so how could it have any effect?
                          Koepka should of destroyed it then
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #48
                            Only good thing about this open was it helped me get some good sleep sat/sun morning, woke up early turned it on and presto I was sleeping like a baby!! No clue who won, lol.
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Plaza23
                              What happened to JB Holmes?

                              66
                              68
                              69
                              85 ?????
                              ask kvb

                              he doesnt think weather matters
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #50
                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                ask kvb

                                he doesnt think weather matters
                                Huh?? Weather don’t matter? Surely rain and wind effects the ball??
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                  Huh?? Weather don’t matter? Surely rain and wind effects the ball??
                                  No clue what Rudy's saying.

                                  Just another poster confusing me with someone else.

                                  Not sure which poster would think weather "doesn't matter."

                                  Then again, not sure what Rudy means by "weather" and "doesn't matter" to begin with; when he's using his own definitions, it confuses everyone.

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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    No clue what Rudy's saying.

                                    Just another poster confusing me with someone else.

                                    Not sure which poster would think weather "doesn't matter."

                                    Then again, not sure what Rudy means by "weather" and "doesn't matter" to begin with; when he's using his own definitions, it confuses everyone.

                                    No dog in this fight, Just didn’t sound like something you would have said.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                      No dog in this fight, Just didn’t sound like something you would have said.
                                      There is no fight, not even close.

                                      Just someone saying I said something, which of course I didn't.



                                      Like I said, no clue what the guy means.
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                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-15-12
                                        • 21746

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        The course looked tougher than it seems to be playing, scores too low, course is too easy. The Open is fukkin around here, the winner should be struggling to break par...now that's golf...

                                        Two year ago, after 3 rounds of golf, the median and mean scores were 1 over par.

                                        Last year after 3 rounds, the median was par and the mean closer to 1 under par (about two thirds a stroke).

                                        After these 3 rounds this year, the median is 1 under par while the mean is about 1 and two thirds strokes under par.

                                        Golfers have been progressively doing better relative to the course in recent years.

                                        Or the course has been progressively getting easier relative to the field in recent years.

                                        I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons.

                                        I could see that that being true of you, but that would be a terrible direction to take the discussion.
                                        I think you’re confusing what the USGA does for the US Open then what they do for this tourney. Obviously weather is going to be a factor because well, most of the time the weather gets bad there this time of the year. You saw how the US players wilted when it rained today because in the states when it rains they stop playing. I’m sure Rudy would know this better than me but I’d bet that the adding of holes 7 & 8 on this course is rare when it comes to changing course conditions for a tourney. The USGA wants to make it as difficult as possible as the everyday golfer can relate more to someone making a 7 on a par 4 then someone driving the green on one.
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65084

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          The course looked tougher than it seems to be playing, scores too low, course is too easy. The Open is fukkin around here, the winner should be struggling to break par...now that's golf...

                                          Two year ago, after 3 rounds of golf, the median and mean scores were 1 over par.

                                          Last year after 3 rounds, the median was par and the mean closer to 1 under par (about two thirds a stroke).

                                          After these 3 rounds this year, the median is 1 under par while the mean is about 1 and two thirds strokes under par.

                                          Golfers have been progressively doing better relative to the course in recent years.

                                          Or the course has been progressively getting easier relative to the field in recent years.

                                          I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons.

                                          I could see that that being true of you, but that would be a terrible direction to take the discussion.
                                          why dont you just step the fukk up and admit when wrong?
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                            I think you’re confusing what the USGA does for the US Open then what they do for this tourney. Obviously weather is going to be a factor because well, most of the time the weather gets bad there this time of the year. You saw how the US players wilted when it rained today because in the states when it rains they stop playing. I’m sure Rudy would know this better than me but I’d bet that the adding of holes 7 & 8 on this course is rare when it comes to changing course conditions for a tourney. The USGA wants to make it as difficult as possible as the everyday golfer can relate more to someone making a 7 on a par 4 then someone driving the green on one.
                                            exactly

                                            just look at this from MORNING to afternoon


                                            By Steven Rachesky In the first round of the 2014 British Open, 15 players out of the 18 total that shot 69 or better had teed off during the morning slots. During the afternoon, Royal Liverpool GC…
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65084

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                              No clue what Rudy's saying.

                                              Just another poster confusing me with someone else.

                                              Not sure which poster would think weather "doesn't matter."

                                              Then again, not sure what Rudy means by "weather" and "doesn't matter" to begin with; when he's using his own definitions, it confuses everyone.

                                              you are the jackass saying the course was too easy

                                              in hindsight, we can all see the weather was too easy the first 3 days
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                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-24-10
                                                • 65084

                                                #58
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                                                • maggiethebestdog
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-21-13
                                                  • 6700

                                                  #59
                                                  Could it be that the course is a little easier than past venues and when the weather is good it exposes it to ridiculously low scores for an Open major???

                                                  I hate to bring logic into the equation

                                                  Sorry
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65084

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                    Could it be that the course is a little easier than past venues and when the weather is good it exposes it to ridiculously low scores for an Open major???

                                                    I hate to bring logic into the equation

                                                    Sorry
                                                    tell kvb to check in

                                                    hes ignoring thread as if he doesnt see it

                                                    im tired of fukks like him leaving threads when they look stupid

                                                    while i make a public announcement or bump threads im wrong on a play.

                                                    hardly ever wrong when it comes to something so blatant as this


                                                    fukk cukkboys is what they are
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                      Could it be that the course is a little easier than past venues and when the weather is good it exposes it to ridiculously low scores for an Open major???

                                                      I hate to bring logic into the equation

                                                      Sorry
                                                      Of course it could. Not sure what the issue is here.

                                                      Weather is too easy for three days? What does that even mean? I guess next year they will make the weather harder.

                                                      Weather is weather, it's the course that gets set up to different levels of difficulty. Last I checked. Even if the expected weather dictates that set up.

                                                      There's been a push in virtually all sports to increase offense over the years.

                                                      Golf is not immune to that push.

                                                      It's simple in golf, just program weather that is "too easy" and scores will be lower.

                                                      Right????
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                        tell kvb to check in

                                                        hes ignoring thread as if he doesnt see it

                                                        im tired of fukks like him leaving threads when they look stupid

                                                        while i make a public announcement or bump threads im wrong on a play.

                                                        hardly ever wrong when it comes to something so blatant as this


                                                        fukk cukkboys is what they are


                                                        Settle down guy, go find some other bullshit fight to pick. Don't act like whatever the hell you think you are saying is worth any response or time.

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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by KVB


                                                          Settle down guy, go find some other bullshit fight to pick. Don't act like whatever the hell you think you are saying is worth any response or time.

                                                          so you are wrong

                                                          we got it sunday

                                                          remember how you posted saturday?
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                            so you are wrong

                                                            we got it sunday

                                                            remember how you posted saturday?
                                                            Wrong about what?

                                                            I posted stats about median scores for the past three years. Those medians were in relation to each course by themselves so that the courses themselves aren't being compared.

                                                            That's the value of the medians I used...

                                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                                            I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons....
                                                            Whatever right or wrong you think you need is probably based on you completely misunderstanding my post.

                                                            An utter and complete misunderstanding.

                                                            I can't help you guy, you have a history of doing this on purpose and lying about what posters say to troll.

                                                            If you did understand my post, then I'm not buying your twisting to troll gag.

                                                            But I'll just leave it at you have no clue what I was saying because you really don't.

                                                            Weak, try to pick a real argument sometime guy. Or maybe don't be so desperate to be in an argument with someone.

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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65084

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                                              Wrong about what?

                                                              I posted stats about median scores for the past three years. Those medians were in relation to each course by themselves so that the courses themselves aren't being compared.

                                                              That's the value of the medians I used...



                                                              Whatever right or wrong you think you need is probably based on you completely misunderstanding my post.

                                                              An utter and complete misunderstanding.

                                                              I can't help you guy, you have a history of doing this on purpose and lying about what posters say to troll.

                                                              If you did understand my post, then I'm not buying your twisting to troll gag.

                                                              But I'll just leave it at you have no clue what I was saying because you really don't.

                                                              Weak, try to pick a real argument sometime guy. Or maybe don't be so desperate to be in an argument with someone.

                                                              i guess others didnt understand it either, including phillyguy who also knows golf


                                                              why dont you clarify it for us
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                i guess others didnt understand it either, including phillyguy who also knows golf


                                                                why dont you clarify it for us
                                                                Phillyguy's post has nothing to do with mine, he just responded to me.

                                                                I just clarified it for you, you idiot, read my last post.

                                                                It also shows phillyguy and I are not talking about the same topic. I have no response to his post, I posted numbers that have nothing to do with what he's saying.

                                                                Stop already.

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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65084

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                                  The course looked tougher than it seems to be playing, scores too low, course is too easy. The Open is fukkin around here, the winner should be struggling to break par...now that's golf...

                                                                  Two year ago, after 3 rounds of golf, the median and mean scores were 1 over par.

                                                                  Last year after 3 rounds, the median was par and the mean closer to 1 under par (about two thirds a stroke).

                                                                  After these 3 rounds this year, the median is 1 under par while the mean is about 1 and two thirds strokes under par.

                                                                  Golfers have been progressively doing better relative to the course in recent years.

                                                                  Or the course has been progressively getting easier relative to the field in recent years.

                                                                  I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons.

                                                                  I could see that that being true of you, but that would be a terrible direction to take the discussion.
                                                                  clown show post by a clown show trying to act sharp
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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #68
                                                                    If your medians through three rounds are different, post them.

                                                                    Like I said, I could go on, put the trend is the same. No matter the weather during those rounds played, good, fair or bad, the trend is the same. No matter the event or tour, it's the same. It's a more recent development, but it's the same.

                                                                    Your trying to take the discussion the wrong way, like I said, it's a bad way to go because the trend is the same.

                                                                    The only right or wrong is whether or not you agree with the numbers. That's all they are guy, numbers.

                                                                    Again, trying to make some kind of argument that isn't there, I think I predicted that in the post.

                                                                    lol.

                                                                    Don't bother responding. If you need my attention again, just re read my posts in this thread.

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                                                                    • Dr.Gonzo
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-05-09
                                                                      • 4660

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Course is fine weather either comes or it doesn't
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                                                                      • maggiethebestdog
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 12-21-13
                                                                        • 6700

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Wow
                                                                        Even if the weather is great, it is unusual for an Open course to yield as many super low scores as this one did

                                                                        Why is anybody arguing this???
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