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  • RUNandGun
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-10-18
    • 109

    #1
    Vegas vs offshore
    I am moving to Vegas and just wondering do Vegas books adjust their lines slower than offshore usually? I know it is best to have both offshore and local vegas books, but wondering whose lines are sharper vegas or offshore and who adjust the quickest. Thanks
  • DrunkHorseplayer
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-15-10
    • 7719

    #2
    Vegas follows the offshore books.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Tight most of time

      Football you’ll see some variety if they take a big wager why you’re moving to Vegas is mine boggling
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      • jts1207
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-15-16
        • 8011

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Tight most of time

        Football you’ll see some variety if they take a big wager why you’re moving to Vegas is mine boggling
        What is mine boggling?
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 04-04-11
          • 37428

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Tight most of time

          Football you’ll see some variety if they take a big wager why you’re moving to Vegas is mine boggling
          Just b/c YOU busted out...doesn't mean HE will.
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • RUNandGun
            SBR High Roller
            • 08-10-18
            • 109

            #6
            Not moving to gamble lol Moving for job reasons and Cali is too liberal and expensive
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Good don’t gamble that place is a dump
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              • eidolon
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-02-08
                • 9531

                #8
                While you are in Vegas make sure to give us a weekly update of how much money you spent that week on strippers and whores.
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                • lonegambler23
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-22-16
                  • 9760

                  #9
                  fade vegas heavy. true shiithole id never wanna live there
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                  • DrunkHorseplayer
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-15-10
                    • 7719

                    #10
                    You're going to enjoy Vegas; no better feeling than walking up to the window knowing that you're going to get paid immediately.
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                    • hawkeye 16
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-07-17
                      • 3553

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jts1207
                      What is mine boggling?
                      I'd hate to boggle a mine, especially if it was the land mine version.
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                      • physed
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-29-09
                        • 1176

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Good don’t gamble that place is a dump
                        Don't trust JJ. Just live in the suburbs and use all the sportsbooks apps to place bets.
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                        • TommieGunshot
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-27-12
                          • 1607

                          #13
                          Most notable differences between Las Vegas sportsbooks and online that I can think of (these might apply to all American sportsbooks compared to foreign ones):
                          -online has higher limits and has a global market
                          -Las Vegas sportsbooks will usually follow the global market, but only after taking action on whatever they have. But it doesn't take much action. On the small markets I like max bets are often as low as $300; whenever they're different from online books, they'll adjust after one bet.
                          -Scalps and arbitrage are available everyday.
                          -Las Vegas is regulated, they will pay with virtually zero issues. That's obvious, but extremely important. And while they do give heat and backoffs, it is hard and a rarity for them to completely kick someone out.
                          -Most Las Vegas sportsbooks have to answer to a casino and most of them have to answer to stock holders. They want the same consistency from the sportsbooks that they get from table games and machines. That means they would rather win $100,000 two weeks in a row, rather then win $300,000 one week and lose $50,000 the next.
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                          • jts1207
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-15-16
                            • 8011

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                            Most notable differences between Las Vegas sportsbooks and online that I can think of (these might apply to all American sportsbooks compared to foreign ones):
                            -online has higher limits and has a global market
                            -Las Vegas sportsbooks will usually follow the global market, but only after taking action on whatever they have. But it doesn't take much action. On the small markets I like max bets are often as low as $300; whenever they're different from online books, they'll adjust after one bet.
                            -Scalps and arbitrage are available everyday.
                            -Las Vegas is regulated, they will pay with virtually zero issues. That's obvious, but extremely important. And while they do give heat and backoffs, it is hard and a rarity for them to completely kick someone out.
                            -Most Las Vegas sportsbooks have to answer to a casino and most of them have to answer to stock holders. They want the same consistency from the sportsbooks that they get from table games and machines. That means they would rather win $100,000 two weeks in a row, rather then win $300,000 one week and lose $50,000 the next.
                            Online has higher limits?

                            Don't think so.
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                            • sweethook
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-21-07
                              • 12667

                              #15
                              fade the strip , and youl do fine .. gl
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                              • INVEGA MAN
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-30-08
                                • 6800

                                #16
                                Online has higher limits!! Lmfao!!
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  have 2 offshore
                                  two vegas books
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                                  • Jayvegas420
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-09-11
                                    • 28213

                                    #18
                                    Welcome aboard RnG....
                                    You'll be missed.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65599

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                      fade vegas heavy. true shiithole id never wanna live there
                                      AC is just as bad. At least Nevada has lower taxes than NJ.

                                      New Hampshire is about to legalize sports betting and casinos.
                                      NH is nice but cold in the winter, doesn’t assess taxes on personal income taxes, has no state sales tax too.
                                      NH also has a wicked low crime rate (just stay out of Manchester)

                                      Also if you live in NH you’re in driving distance to Mass., Rhode Island, and Connecticut casinos.

                                      Drawbacks to living in NH are higher property taxes and exise taxes on thing such as alcohol.
                                      Nasher is seriously thinking about retirement in NH, Connecticut is not an option.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Nevada is not a place you want to live
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65599

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Nevada is not a place you want to live
                                          Not really, the taxes are low, it’s blazing hot and dry, good for people with joint problems though.
                                          Crime rate is high.
                                          I was looking at Nye County too, that’s no prize either.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Las Vegas is also the ugliest city that was ever put on a map it’s terrible
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                                            • BradyFreeMoney
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 07-15-19
                                              • 7

                                              #23
                                              Why the Vegas hate? Not saying I’d want to live there but for a couple weekends out of the year it’s awesome.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65599

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BradyFreeMoney
                                                Why the Vegas hate? Not saying I’d want to live there but for a couple weekends out of the year it’s awesome.
                                                Agreed, live music and shows for all ages and tastes.
                                                Two weekends a year is fine.
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                                                • physed
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-29-09
                                                  • 1176

                                                  #25
                                                  JJ is just bitter about Vegas because he lost while playing slots. Newark NJ is worse.
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                                                  • BuckyOne
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-02-15
                                                    • 2728

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jts1207
                                                    Online has higher limits?

                                                    Don't think so.
                                                    That you are going to find out for your self - a posted limit and getting the bet down are two different things. Get the phone apps in Nevada and things will go fine.

                                                    Walk in with 10k for the Patriots game - no players card - not staying at the hotel - no front money account - a lot harder task.
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                                                    • RUNandGun
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 08-10-18
                                                      • 109

                                                      #27
                                                      Going to live in Henderson and stay away from the strip. Married with children will keep me in the burbs. Is it better to use the app or walk up to the window? I figure better to walk up so they can't track you and cut your limits?
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                                                      • BuckyOne
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-02-15
                                                        • 2728

                                                        #28
                                                        Use the apps - sprinkle the front money - tremendous convenience. You know there is a downside in dealing with cash all the time. Ask for big chips-leave it there in a front money account. They can track you whether you give them your name or not. That town invented face recognition software!
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #29
                                                          Very few Vegas books cut limits
                                                          Henderson over crowded
                                                          No suburbs in Vegas all City basically

                                                          Originally posted by RUNandGun
                                                          Going to live in Henderson and stay away from the strip. Married with children will keep me in the burbs. Is it better to use the app or walk up to the window? I figure better to walk up so they can't track you and cut your limits?
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82839

                                                            #30
                                                            It's too hot in Vegas and you will get fat from the unhealthy food. And you can't score with women if you are a fat gambler.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Lol Paver
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                                                              • Jayvegas420
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 03-09-11
                                                                • 28213

                                                                #32
                                                                Listen fellas, if you were sweating your rooster balls off on the overpasses selling bottles of water then sleeping under the overpasses, with one eye open so that you didn't get a rooster fukked... you would hate Vegas also.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65599

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  It's too hot in Vegas and you will get fat from the unhealthy food. And you can't score with women if you are a fat gambler.
                                                                  You can if you are a fat fuk gambler with a ton of cash.
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                                                                  • TommieGunshot
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-27-12
                                                                    • 1607

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jts1207
                                                                    Online has higher limits?

                                                                    Don't think so.
                                                                    On an NFL side, can get down $100,000 in Las Vegas. Might not even have to go to more than one place. On the smallest / slowest moving / softest markets, most places are $300 to $500 limits on accounts. Anything in person will need approval over those amounts and usually be denied if it's a good number.. Westgate will go up to $1,000. William Hill just kicks people out. Some places on the strip might be little better, haven't done too much with those guys. TI was great when their app first came out, then started to suck, don't know anything about it now. MGM has 20 cent lines on baseball (heard their app is better but haven't confirmed), Wynn almost as bad. Which is another major difference. Online has much lower juice. Not always a bad thing to bet at higher juice -- fewer people want to bet into it, so they aren't always as sharp. Cantor want their books balanced everyday, sometimes lets players bet a lot on certain things, other times won't let you bet anything on their best numbers

                                                                    Bookmaker advertised $5,000 on those bets, Pinnacle even higher, Matchbook however much you can get.
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                                                                    • BuckyOne
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-02-15
                                                                      • 2728

                                                                      #35
                                                                      What if you lose your ticket? There is a value to the players card at that point!
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