Here’s what I think: Trump is gonna win again

[Headsterx]

Try and get your $$$ back

3/5 Compromise was struck in 1787... No region wanted to "break away" at that time

Civil War began 1861

For the love of God, "breaking away" simply didn't mean from the USA. It meant from the Union in general. South would NOT join the North in forming the Union if North insisted on abolishing salvery or even restricting it from spreading to other new territories. South would have "broken away" right after the Revolutionary War if that happened. I swear I think I'm arguing to some propaganda agenda.

[d2bets]

Honest question: If everything in our country is handled on a state-by-state basis (laws, representatives, amendments, etc.), how would moving to a popular vote be fair? It would go against everything our country is made on. If we go to a popular vote, then I would also propose making all our laws across the country the exact same and just do away with states altogether.

How can it not be fair? Everyone gets a vote and whoever the majority picks, wins. Why should one candidate win an entire state by winning that state by 1 vote? Makes it so random. At a minimum, the electors should be proportional. Why should the result be exactly the same if you win the state by 1 vote vs. 1 million votes.

[DwightShrute]

How can it not be fair? Everyone gets a vote and whoever the majority picks, wins. Why should one candidate win an entire state by winning that state by 1 vote? Makes it so random. At a minimum, the electors should be proportional. Why should the result be exactly the same if you win the state by 1 vote vs. 1 million votes.

[navyblue81]

How can it not be fair? Everyone gets a vote and whoever the majority picks, wins. Why should one candidate win an entire state by winning that state by 1 vote? Makes it so random. At a minimum, the electors should be proportional. Why should the result be exactly the same if you win the state by 1 vote vs. 1 million votes.

If we go popular vote, then just get rid of states altogether. I’m fine with it then if that’s what is approved. Instead of having representatives from each state, just have national reps where everyone can run. No state by state law, just all national law. States don’t ratify amendments anymore, just national ratification.

My point is the electoral system is in place based on how country is set up. That’s part of the reason. The other part is the founding fathers didn’t want the election to be campaigned in and strictly determined by big cities. The system we have allows the candidates to run on different issues and messages, not just one catered towards the urban population.

[Sam Odom]

Dems had no problems with the election process (Electoral College) right BEFORE the 2000 election... They said it was fair and the law

[Sam Odom]

How can it not be fair? Everyone gets a vote and whoever the majority picks, wins.

So... lets do away with districts inside of states... all Congressional seats will be At-Large

[SBR_Guest_Pro]

That's not sayin much as California has been screwed over by Governor's for decades you think he was a Good Governor?

ya, gas prices were not out of control. We didn't have rolling brown outs. we didn't have sanctuary cities. He didn't dismantle the death penalty chamber.

i think he did alright

[navyblue81]

The only tweak I would like to see is to make the vote in states more proportional like they do in primaries. Not a winner take all. Nebraska and Maine do a similar system where they have separate districts that disperse electoral votes. New York is a big state, but NYCity shouldn’t dictate how that state goes. Florida is so 50/50...it shouldn’t always be you win by 100 votes (as was the case in 2000), you take all the electors.

[JohnGalt2341]

Trump won because all different types Americans voted for him. Educated doesn't necessarily mean intelligent. Just look at the educated people on TV. Look at those who spend tens of thousands to go to college and take gender study course and then end up working at Subway and paying off their "education" for decades.

Push the fake news narratives all ya want. Smart people aren't buying.

Nothing I stated above has anything to do with "Fake News". You always say I'm pushing "Fake News" yet I never do. Any FACT that you don't like you consider fake news. I get it, the "fake news" response is one of the sharpest tools in your mental tool belt. I'm simply making an observation. The observation is that Trump dominated rural areas but he lost the popular vote. Is that fake news or is that reality? Why do you think he dominated rural areas but still lost the popular vote? I'm not trying to take sides on this question... I'm only asking because it's interesting.

Let me rephrase the question... why did Hillary win the popular vote but she got stomped in almost every rural county?

Let me ask a completely different question that I also find interesting just to make a point. Why is the U.S. only roughly 13% Black but the NFL is roughly 68% Black? Again... I'm not taking sides... only making an interesting observation. The NBA is even more lopsided. This observation doesn't make me pro black nor pro white nor anything else. It's just a fact that most people don't have a good answer for.

[JohnGalt2341]

Not directed at you really, but I’ll just propose a thought. Are those that got a degree, and along the way were taught by professors who statistically lean liberal, really more educated on the issues at hand? Over those in rural areas that probably worked from a young age, and their education came through life experience? I went to college plenty, but don’t have a degree. Am I uneducated? I say no, just dumb for not finishing the nonsense. Point being, I don’t think people are uneducated just because their life took them on a different path than getting that piece of paper.

Fair enough.

Dwight, if you are reading this... this is how a conversation between 2 adults works. No insults, no "fake news", no "libtard", nothing like that. Just good questions and making some excellent points. I wish every conversation I had with Trump supporters were like this one. I would certainly think more of them if it were.

[JohnGalt2341]

Yup, representation of counties. The map basically shows Hillary dominated the biggest cities, but Trump crushed her with the rural vote, which is most of America.

If we went to a popular vote, then all of a sudden New York City and L.A. pretty much dominate an election in a country where we put an emphasis on state-by-state regulation. Hillary beat Trump by over 4 million votes in the New York City and L.A. areas. If you count in San Fran, Hillary beat him by close to 6 million. If I was a candidate in a popular vote world, I would just camp out in big cities and tailor my message specifically for those who live in the city. Screw a message for rural America. I would just ignore them.

I agree.

Dwight, again if you are reading this. This is what a conversation between 2 adults looks like.

[JIBBBY]

Dems had no problems with the election process (Electoral College) right BEFORE the 2000 election... They said it was fair and the law

Everything the Dems say and do are hypocritical today. Look at what they campaign on today from when Obama and Hillary ran. It's a total different party today. Older Dems flip flop now on what they stood for 10 years ago.

[JIBBBY]

ya, gas prices were not out of control. We didn't have rolling brown outs. we didn't have sanctuary cities. He didn't dismantle the death penalty chamber.

i think he did alright

Didn't have the homeless problem either like we are seeing today either. Arnold was suspect but probably better then any of the Liberal Governors that continue to run this State into the ground.

[JohnGalt2341]

Everything the Dems say and do are hypocritical today. Look at what they campaign on today from when Obama and Hillary ran. It's a total different party today. Older Dems flip flop now on what they stood for 10 years ago.

Dems are hypocritical indeed. But Rep's are just as bad. Watch the video below...

Btw, I am neither a Dem nor a Rep, even though most Trump supporters on here demand me to be a Libtard because I am critical of Trump. In their world it's impossible to be a Republican and be critical of Trump at the same time. That's just completely ridiculous. That's not a party, that's a cult.

[Headsterx]

Everything the Dems say and do are hypocritical today. Look at what they campaign on today from when Obama and Hillary ran. It's a total different party today. Older Dems flip flop now on what they stood for 10 years ago.

The generalization is getting so old. I grant you one thing, the relentless posting is quite impressive and it's not even 2020 yet... lol.

[navyblue81]

Let me rephrase the question... why did Hillary win the popular vote but she got stomped in almost every rural county?

Let me ask a completely different question that I also find interesting just to make a point. Why is the U.S. only roughly 13% Black but the NFL is roughly 68% Black? Again... I'm not taking sides... only making an interesting observation. The NBA is even more lopsided. This observation doesn't make me pro black nor pro white nor anything else. It's just a fact that most people don't have a good answer for.

She won in LA and San Fran by nearly 3 million votes alone. Throw in Chicago and New York and that figures up towards 5 million. So that just shows you her domination in the big cities but how badly she got beaten elsewhere.

I thought there was more than 13% blacks in America. I could see that number in sports being high because of their athletic genes and speed, but I thought there were something like 25-30% of the nation being black.

[TheMoneyShot]

Anyone who thinks Trump loses the 2020 election needs to get their head examined. I say this in the utmost respect.

Proof is in the pudding... more jobs... better economy... stock market booming.

The Dems ran this Nation like a prison. People too fukking blind to tell? Come on.


You're getting a gift at 5Dimes for practically PICK EM... but nobody wants to tie their money up for months.

[JIBBBY]

The generalization is getting so old. I grant you one thing, the relentless posting is quite impressive and it's not even 2020 yet... lol.

Trying to get to that 50,000 post count then I'm done. lol.. I am a posting whore on SBR lately I'll give you that.. Bored and hung over today, done capping sports for the day..

Watching the big 3 on CBS and posting now.. What do you want from me? ..

[keely85]

If u can honestly say no other generic republican couldn’t have kept the economy going without ruining every diplomatic relationship, that to me is the dividing line between a republican or a trumper.

[Hman]

Anyone who thinks Trump loses the 2020 election needs to get their head examined. I say this in the utmost respect.

Proof is in the pudding... more jobs... better economy... stock market booming.

He could reveal himself as Jesus Christ himself and the twisted would still be in denial of him

[navyblue81]

If u can honestly say no other generic republican couldn’t have kept the economy going without ruining every diplomatic relationship, that to me is the dividing line between a republican or a trumper.

Tell me what diplomatic relationship has been ruined?

[JohnGalt2341]

He could reveal himself as Jesus Christ himself and the twisted would still be in denial of him

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump did claim he was Jesus Christ. If Jesus were alive today, what do you think Trump would think of him? Do think Trump has a lot of the same qualities Jesus had?

If the anti-christ were on earth today... how would you know who he was?

[DwightShrute]

Fair enough.

Dwight, if you are reading this... this is how a conversation between 2 adults works. No insults, no "fake news", no "libtard", nothing like that. Just good questions and making some excellent points. I wish every conversation I had with Trump supporters were like this one. I would certainly think more of them if it were.

you are the biggest hypocrite around. You act like your shit don't stink but you and everyone else knows it does. Smart people aren't fooled by you.


These are your actual quotes. None taken out of context . Look it up fake boy. There are plenty more.

"I have better things to do than to try to reason with brainwashed cult members who are incapable of reasoning. I prefer to let this whole thing play out. The truth will eventually be known to everyone. Until then... I'm not wasting my time with brainwashed cult members." - JohnGalt2341


"This would be the line for on an IQ test between the 2 of us:

Galt scores higher -10000
Dwight scores higher +8000

The spread would be:
Galt -50.5
Dwight +50.5

And those prices on Galt would be a bargain!" - JohnGalt2341


"I've never once ever said I was smart. I'm just saying that you are dumb, just like the majority of Trump supporters are. Let's say you interviewed a bunch 5th graders on whether or not they believed in the Tooth Fairy. It would be easy to find out who the dumb/naive ones were just from this one question. Trump's presidency is doing exactly the same thing." - JohnGalt2341

[DwightShrute]

I agree.

Dwight, again if you are reading this. This is what a conversation between 2 adults looks like.

again fake boy, if you are reading this, you aren't fooling anyone.

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[TheMoneyShot]

He could reveal himself as Jesus Christ himself and the twisted would still be in denial of him

And that's what makes Trump's personality so unique. Guy knows there's people out there still hammering him. Guy doesn't care... still making WINNING MOVES day in and day out.

The indecisive voter is leaning Trump... there's no question in my mind.

[keely85]

Tell me what diplomatic relationship has been ruined?

Let’s just say only “maybe” North Korea has improved. But I don’t consider KJU clownin on Trump that much of a win. Might have said Russia but now they’re done with him too.

If you really think any European nation thinks Trump is a great guy, lol. If you think any African nation think he’s a great guy, LOL. Maybe Venezuela? I dunno. It’s hard to think of any relationships that aren’t dictators he has helped maintain or improve. Most are deferential bc they need an economic or political alliance with the US. But ur funny if you think they don’t laugh about this moran behind his back.

[TheMoneyShot]

I don't know what the DEMS could do now??? DEMS had election in the bag..... and then BOOM... TRUMP WON! Devastating blow. Trump has momentum now... DEMS can't even figure out a game plan to take TRUMP DOWN. Trump has proven he can handle business deals... he can handle the pressure... he makes the right moves... he knows what this country needs.

Name one President who told you what he was going to do.... and DID IT!!! Name One??? Donald Trump!

[navyblue81]

Let’s just say only “maybe” North Korea has improved. But I don’t consider KJU clownin on Trump that much of a win. Might have said Russia but now they’re done with him too.

If you really think any European nation thinks Trump is a great guy, lol. If you think any African nation think he’s a great guy, LOL. Maybe Venezuela? I dunno. It’s hard to think of any relationships that aren’t dictators he has helped maintain or improve. Most are deferential bc they need an economic or political alliance with the US. But ur funny if you think they don’t laugh about this moran behind his back.

Ruining relationships and them thinking "he's not a great guy" are two completely different things. What does it matter what other leaders think? If you care what the French President thinks of America, then you don't have much other stuff going on in your life. I could care less what other people think about myself and what other people think about our President. They don't live here. Let them worry about their own country's leader, not someone else's. If you're not proud to be an American and are embarrassed by our President, then there are a lot of other countries in this world to move to. I suggest you look into passports.

[JohnGalt2341]

again fake boy, if you are reading this, you aren't fooling anyone.

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That's it? You post far worse things on any given day than I have in the last 2 years combined. I'm only ashamed that I've posted as much as I have. Not all Trump supporters are cult members, but many of them definitely are.

Cult: a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.

[HockeyRocks]

Ruining relationships and them thinking "he's not a great guy" are two completely different things. What does it matter what other leaders think? If you care what the French President thinks of America, then you don't have much other stuff going on in your life. I could care less what other people think about myself and what other people think about our President. They don't live here. Let them worry about their own country's leader, not someone else's. If you're not proud to be an American and are embarrassed by our President, then there are a lot of other countries in this world to move to. I suggest you look into passports.

Your comments prove it. You're to be pitied...

[HockeyRocks]

Let’s just say only “maybe” North Korea has improved. But I don’t consider KJU clownin on Trump that much of a win. Might have said Russia but now they’re done with him too.

If you really think any European nation thinks Trump is a great guy, lol. If you think any African nation think he’s a great guy, LOL. Maybe Venezuela? I dunno. It’s hard to think of any relationships that aren’t dictators he has helped maintain or improve. Most are deferential bc they need an economic or political alliance with the US. But ur funny if you think they don’t laugh about this moran behind his back.

Have you ever seen a more low information ignorant comment from someone that says he dislikes Trump...

[Hman]

If other countries don't like him because he's doing what should have been done a long time ago by ending the catering to and giving them charity, then oh well so be it.

Truth is other countries should be happy with the fact alone that the U. S. acts as a Big Brother to all and if we should ever be brought to our knees for any reason, the rest of the world will one day be slaves to Russia, China, and whoever else is on their side. If you don't believe that then ask the residing countries around those two.

Any country considered our ally who doesn't like Trump needs to wake up.

[navyblue81]

Have you ever seen a more low information ignorant comment from someone that says he dislikes Trump...

Dude, I showed you proof last week that I have made anti-Trump comments on here before and then you disappeared faster than a bolt of lightning. Just like I'm still waiting for you to list all the failures and broken promises of past Presidents, not just Trump. But that require you to show fairness and make a concession.

I've said over and over again, I don't like the Trump as a person, but there's a difference between a person's personality and how they do at their job. It's not that hard to comprehend. Bush was not a great President, IMO, but a great person to meet and know. I would have a beer with that man any day. There is a difference in how a person does at their job and how they are as a person. You can't seem to understand that.

[JIBBBY]

Tell me what diplomatic relationship has been ruined?

He can't because it didn't happen. Fake news told him that probably..

TDS has fried his mind, it happens. Alot of TDS going on in this thread I see.

[HockeyRocks]

Dude, I showed you proof last week that I have made anti-Trump comments on here before and then you disappeared faster than a bolt of lightning. Just like I'm still waiting for you to list all the failures and broken promises of past Presidents, not just Trump. But that require you to show fairness and make a concession.

I've said over and over again, I don't like the Trump as a person, but there's a difference between a person's personality and how they do at their job. It's not that hard to comprehend. Bush was not a great President, IMO, but a great person to meet and know. I would have a beer with that man any day. There is a difference in how a person does at their job and how they are as a person. You can't seem to understand that.

Hey Chump#10.

#1.Sleazebag Don is the president at this time....I sent you 20 of Sleazebag Dons' campaign promises that everyone on the planet knows he HASN'T kept, and you the gutless fool you are didn't address ONE of the promises he's broken.....Not fukking one of them....You ran like the fukking phony Trump supporter you are.....When Sleazebag Don is the president, of course you want me to list failures of others, WHY? Because your embarrassed to say anything bad about Trump other than to say you don't like him..That's BS...

#2. After insulting many of the NATO leaders personally and their countries, many of them want nothing to do with Trump....With his friendship with dictators and strong men around the world, NATO countries look at him as having more ties to dictators and Communist murderers like Putin...He's your man though navy. He's your man....

#3. If you were informed about current events, you would know Bush is not a drinker....So forget about that...

#4. Chump, if your looking for fairness on these SBR threads your delusional...Its dog eat dog and you just got your lunch handed to you...