Who was the best third basemen of all time

[TommieGunshot]

What about molitor?

Should be considered a DH when comparing players by position. Otherwise we could put A-Rod at the top as well (who definitely did more as a short stop than third baseman). Dick Allen is considered a first baseman for those who would think to list him here.

[2daBank]

Says a lot more about the league in 1987 than it does about Boggs. MLB went from 8.8 runs per game in 1986 to 9.5 in '87, then back down to 8.3 in '88. It feels like a lot of hitters had career years that year (in homers or ops): Trammell, Ozzie, Gwynn, Davis, Raines, Jack Clark, Will Clark, Strawberry, Evans, Molitor. A skinny Mark McGwire hit 49 homeruns which he didn't surpass that until 96. And that's not even listing the two MVPs, who were among two of the worst MVP choices ever.

Gold Gloves can't always account for a players fielding. Just look at Jeter. Boggs was a poor choice when he did win his two Gold Gloves. Weak at defense in his early years, but did improve a lot during his time in Boston and would have been an ok choice to win a couple his last few years with them. Overall, below Schmidt, Brett, and Mathews on defense.

Agree with the gold gloves not be a good measure of defense. Ozuna has 1 for Christ sakes and that dude is a freaking awful fielder!! Too often it obvious voters for the GG take offense into account which is pretty ridiculous if you ask me!!

[2daBank]

Who is this TommyGun guy? He seems to be pretty knowledgeable of baseball, we need more of that around here!!!

[KingJD31]

Mike Lowell too

Not the answer to your question but Scott Rolen was an incredibly talented player both at the plate and in the field.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

What about molitor?

Great hitter + baserunner. But didn't really have a position.

Multiple injuries early in career, so Brewers wanted to take him off the field as much as possible.

[SBR Tony]

Yes. Tremendous baseball player.

please enlighten me ?

Career			G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	GRSL	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	SH	SF	HBP	GIDP	AVG	OBP	SLG
3 Years			211	665	57	146	19	4	2	0	37	37	2	128	12	3	4	16	.220	.264	.269

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Says a lot more about the league in 1987 than it does about Boggs. MLB went from 8.8 runs per game in 1986 to 9.5 in '87, then back down to 8.3 in '88. It feels like a lot of hitters had career years that year (in homers or ops): Trammell, Ozzie, Gwynn, Davis, Raines, Jack Clark, Will Clark, Strawberry, Evans, Molitor. A skinny Mark McGwire hit 49 homeruns which he didn't surpass that until 96. And that's not even listing the two MVPs, who were among two of the worst MVP choices ever.

Gold Gloves can't always account for a players fielding. Just look at Jeter. Boggs was a poor choice when he did win his two Gold Gloves. Weak at defense in his early years, but did improve a lot during his time in Boston and would have been an ok choice to win a couple his last few years with them. Overall, below Schmidt, Brett, and Mathews on defense.

You make a good point. Gold Glove might be the most poorly voted award around. Check out the year Palmeiro won 1b gold glove...when he only played like 22 games at 1b.

[Chi_archie]

I'd go Mike Schmidt and then Danny Ainge. Brooks a close 3rd

[Harry N. Lloyd]

You young punks must've never seen Brooks Robinson play 3rd. He was the best by a long shot. Nobody worked the 'hot corner' better ever. He didn't hit for average like Boggs or for power like Schmidt, but they couldn't field like him. They both could've been DH's.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Who is this TommyGun guy? He seems to be pretty knowledgeable of baseball, we need more of that around here!!!

He's Tom Verducci. Rollin w/ his peeps.

[pimike]

Richie Hebner

[jolyolyolyman]

If we are counting juicers, I’ll take Ken Caminiti.

[Caifan303]

The great Todd Zeile Bio
Fullname: Todd Edward Zeile
Born: 9/09/1965 in Van Nuys, CA
Draft: 1986, St. Louis Cardinals, 2nd rd.
College: UCLA
Debut: 8/18/1989

[SBR Tony]

I'd go Mike Schmidt and then Danny Ainge. Brooks a close 3rd

someone needs to explain to me how they could list Ainge in the mix ?? I must be missing something

[SBR Tony]

Richie Hebner

you're showing your age there Mike. lol

[lakerboy]

No love for Gary Gaetti

[pimike]

you're showing your age there Mike. lol

Lol

Yea

[2daBank]

If we are counting juicers, I’ll take Ken Caminiti.

Why wouldn’t we count juicers? No different than all the speed freak pill poppers of the 80s.

[SBR Tony]

No love for Gary Gaetti

I see him as another Graig Nettles with one less ring

[Chi_archie]

Eddie Matthews one of the most under rated forgotten about baseball players of all time

[AOC]

David Freez

[chico2663]

Salvatore Leonard Bando

grew up with sal. i would say frank robinson as old timer was better

[MinnesotaFats]

Adrian Beltre and not even close.

Schmidt/ Matthews 2nd teir

Boggs 4th

[MinnesotaFats]

I see him as another Graig Nettles with one less ring

The G man got as many HRs as Joe Dimaggio

[Chi_archie]

Did Beltre have more than Schmidt's 3 mvps?


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[2daBank]

Adrian Beltre and not even close.

Schmidt/ Matthews 2nd teir

Boggs 4th

Lmfao. Epic fail.

[2daBank]

Did Beltre have more than Schmidt's 3 mvps?


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Anyone calling Schmidt 2nd tier is clueless.

[Bostongambler]

Mike Schmidt.

Brooks Robinson was the human vacuum cleaner.

[MinnesotaFats]

Did Beltre have more than Schmidt's 3 mvps?


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Not at Schmidts black ink power numbers are inflated because of the era he played in.

Winning HR titles by hitting 38 hrs lol

He was tremendous player, but Beltre was better all around. Beltre more balls in play, more xbh's, way less strikeouts, just as good of fielder.

Having been lucky enough to see both play Beltre is the better all around player, Schmidt has more raw power but his KOs were off the chart whereas Beltre is 30 points higher in career BA.

[2daBank]

Not at Schmidts black ink power numbers are inflated because of the era he played in.

Winning HR titles by hitting 38 hrs lol

He was tremendous player, but Beltre was better all around. Beltre more balls in play, more xbh's, way less strikeouts, just as good of fielder.

Having been lucky enough to see both play Beltre is the better all around player, Schmidt has more raw power but his KOs were off the chart whereas Beltre is 30 points higher in career BA.

If you wanna argue beltre fine but saying Schmidt is 2nd tier is freaking nonsense.

[TheMoneyShot]

Wade Boggs

Tom Brookens

[Slipknot26]

Fukk all that power , gimmee Boggs with a Top 40 batting average of all time .
Schmitt hit bombs but that .267 average isnt enough for the Top Spot to me .
Chipper up there too , consistent over time .300+ average career too

[HockeyRocks]

Frank Malzone, just because he was my favorite player after Don Buddin, ....I know, that's not sayin much...

[MinnesotaFats]

Fukk all that power , gimmee Boggs with a Top 40 batting average of all time .
Schmitt hit bombs but that .267 average isnt enough for the Top Spot to me .
Chipper up there too , consistent over time .300+ average career too

Exactly

Schmidt hit a bunch of HRs and then struck out a ton.

Never hit 40 doubles, that career BA skews a bit because he had 1 year over .300 (.316). If you plug in. 267 that year he drops to .258 BA.

These guys that argue MVPs mean anything dont know baseball. Like saying Dale Murphy and his 2 MVPs make him a better outfielder than Kirby Puckett (0 MVP).

[DiggityDaggityDo]