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  • RyanLeafOfBets
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-10
    • 8164

    #1
    Baseball - For or against retaliation from pitchers?
    We're watching the Reds game, and the announcers just made a point to bring up that the Reds manager David Bell is against retaliation from his pitchers after a batter gets hit.

    My buddy proceeds to agree with him and say it's a "new day and age". I then tell him he's an idiot and retaliation is good for morale and it shows guys that their pitchers have their backs. This prompts a "I bet you're for slavery too, aren't you?" ---Don't know where that came from, but whatever.

    Just curious who's for and against retaliation from pitchers.
  • magpie878
    SBR MVP
    • 10-04-18
    • 1432

    #2
    I'm against many things. Pitchers beaning because their feelings are hurt.

    Batters taking five minutes to step out and adjust every piece of armor they're wearing, plus batting glove adjustment.

    Pitchers not admitting they beaned someone intentionally.

    Idiotic "UNWRITTEN RULES" blah blah blah go penetrate yourself.

    Yapping "tough guys" on either side because they feel disrespected.


    Yet, come summer, I'll be watching baseball again. But I hate the BS that comes along with it.
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #3
      Throw at my guy I’m throwing at yours. Don’t start nothing won’t be nothing.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Throw at them
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        • MinnesotaFats
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-18-10
          • 14758

          #5
          Baseball players today are fukking idiots

          Retaliation is appropriate when some act is intentional and ment to hurt (i.e. throwing at a guys head for showing you up, a really hard slide at second, the catcher being taken out, etc), but not for the random hit by pitch

          I will never understand a manager or player throwing at a guy just because some struggling reliever threw inside and missed.

          It has a place but neither the announcers nor most modern players and managers understand it.
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          • VeggieDog
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-21-09
            • 7214

            #6
            Yes, retaliate. And keep fights in hockey. And crashes in auto racing.
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            • maggiethebestdog
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-21-13
              • 6700

              #7
              If you think a pitcher has thrown at your teammate, then be a fukkin man and run out of the dugout to attack him, or if he is in the National League, wait until he comes up to bat and bean HIM

              Both of those options are better than the cowardly act of having your pitcher hit another batter and risking injury, when NEITHER of those guys had anything to do with the original problem
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              • Baraldsson
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 05-18-19
                • 514

                #8
                Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                If you think a pitcher has thrown at your teammate, then be a fukkin man and run out of the dugout to attack him, or if he is in the National League, wait until he comes up to bat and bean HIM

                Both of those options are better than the cowardly act of having your pitcher hit another batter and risking injury, when NEITHER of those guys had anything to do with the original problem
                Nailed it.
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                • RyanLeafOfBets
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-03-10
                  • 8164

                  #9
                  The Pirates just drilled Suarez. Top 8 up 7-0. Definitely looked intentional. I'm curious to see what happens bottom 8.
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63172

                    #10
                    I'd like to see the leniency that baseball has in other sports again

                    Let NBA and NFL empty benches again, no fines

                    Let mlb have mano y Mano fights until someone goes down

                    Let hockey go until KO or actual opponent tap
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Archie settle down man

                      Take a few laps around block

                      Fighting is bad
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                      • The General
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 13279

                        #12
                        Real tough guys would meet up in alley after game to settle it.
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                        • magpie878
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-04-18
                          • 1432

                          #13
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #14
                            hell yea

                            if a golfer makes a birdie to go 1 up on me and does a fist pump

                            i have every right to go shove a 5 iron up his ass walking to next tee
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                            • Chi_archie
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-22-08
                              • 63172

                              #15
                              Good point


                              Why do baseball players have such fragile egos?
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                              • RyanLeafOfBets
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-03-10
                                • 8164

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                hell yea

                                if a golfer makes a birdie to go 1 up on me and does a fist pump

                                i have every right to go shove a 5 iron up his ass walking to next tee
                                Rudy has the right idea!
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                                • TheMoneyShot
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-14-07
                                  • 28672

                                  #17
                                  Personally.... if you felt a pitcher threw at you... I'm all for retaliation. I mean come on... if a 96 mph fast ball is coming right at your ribs... you know it was intentional.
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63172

                                    #18
                                    Need Policing

                                    no room for taking 1.5-2.5 secs to watch a ball in the air

                                    no room for a slow HR trot

                                    no room for a bat flip

                                    no room for dancing in baseball.

                                    that might hurt feelings


                                    stick it in the guy's ear next time up, hopefully he has time to move, and reacts the right way

                                    what's the worst that can happen?

                                    we just can't have hurt feelings though
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-14-07
                                      • 28672

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                      Need Policing

                                      no room for taking 1.5-2.5 secs to watch a ball in the air

                                      no room for a slow HR trot

                                      no room for a bat flip

                                      no room for dancing in baseball.

                                      that might hurt feelings


                                      stick it in the guy's ear next time up, hopefully he has time to move, and reacts the right way

                                      what's the worst that can happen?

                                      we just can't have hurt feelings though
                                      Personally I'm not a big fan of that dumb dance they do at 2nd base when they hit a double... and point to their dugout. Fukking tee ball sh#$.
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                        Personally I'm not a big fan of that dumb dance they do at 2nd base when they hit a double... and point to their dugout. Fukking tee ball sh#$.

                                        yeah no one has to like it


                                        also no one has to throw a hard projectile at someone at 99 mph's because they don't like someone doing silly clown dunce dance or bat flip.... that literally causes no danger to a human being

                                        it happens though
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                                        • TheMoneyShot
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                                          • 02-14-07
                                          • 28672

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          yeah no one has to like it


                                          also no one has to throw a hard projectile at someone at 99 mph's because they don't like someone doing silly clown dunce dance or bat flip.... that literally causes no danger to a human being

                                          it happens though
                                          And you can clearly see why it could set someone off.... when you're having a bad day.

                                          Of course.... their 10 million dollar contracts don't make them happy enough.... sometimes you just have to BUZZ SOMEONE.
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                            And you can clearly see why it could set someone off.... when you're having a bad day.

                                            Of course.... their 10 million dollar contracts don't make them happy enough.... sometimes you just have to BUZZ SOMEONE.

                                            seems like a Lame Libtard, excuse the violent and deviant behavior bull shit

                                            "sometimes you just have to Buzz someone"


                                            to Rudy's sarcastic point.... You don't see it in sports where it's taught at a young age to be unacceptable.
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                                            • kidcudi92
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-14-11
                                              • 15434

                                              #23
                                              just throw fists
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63172

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                just throw fists

                                                yep! and a few others of pointed out. only take it out on the actual offender.

                                                don't risk some random star's health, vision, livliyhood, career, and life because some OTHER star on the OTHER team got drilled.

                                                make it more direct revenge, not some transitive property bullshit.
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                  • 28672

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                  yep! and a few others of pointed out. only take it out on the actual offender.

                                                  don't risk some random star's health, vision, livliyhood, career, and life because some OTHER star on the OTHER team got drilled.

                                                  make it more direct revenge, not some transitive property bullshit.
                                                  Because most pitchers are pu$$ies.... and that's why they do it.
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82839

                                                    #26
                                                    The umpires is the problem. If they eject the pitcher who throws at a player then there would be no retailation. If you karate kick a soccer player you get a red card. Your teamate does not karate kick a player of the other team for retiliation to get even.
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                                                    • blackbox
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-28-08
                                                      • 1415

                                                      #27
                                                      Tell the cowardly pitcher to meet up in parking lot after the game-- mano vs mano-- we carried boxing gloves in the trunk- good old days - gl all
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                                                      • KiDBaZkiT
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-20-09
                                                        • 14962

                                                        #28
                                                        Guys just simply throw too hard nowadays. Is just not safe. I wish baseball would just hold pitchers to the same celebration standards as hitters. Seen so many pitchers go ape shit on the 3rd out in the middle of the game that was close or even tied and far from over. That is ok but a guy flilpping a bat or watching a homer is not?
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                                                        • fried cheese
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-17-13
                                                          • 4461

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                                          Guys just simply throw too hard nowadays. Is just not safe. I wish baseball would just hold pitchers to the same celebration standards as hitters. Seen so many pitchers go ape shit on the 3rd out in the middle of the game that was close or even tied and far from over. That is ok but a guy flilpping a bat or watching a homer is not?
                                                          it would be funny to see the batter run up to the pitcher and nail in him the stomach with his bat after the pitcher celebrated. it always seemed weird to me how upset ppl got in baseball about bat flips or admiring a home run.
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