Top Sportsbooks safe? (Over $100,000 in each account)

[betyuda]

Hello. I had a few questions. I understand that matchbook.com is becoming popular, but are they financially stable?? I understand wsex.com has been going down a bit recently.

I would be greatful if anyone has any advice as to which top 5 books they would recommend. I usually keep up to $100,000 in a sportbook so anyone knows which books are safe for this I would be greatful. thanks again

[SSLP]

1 . Cris
2. DSI
3. Betphoenix.com Family
4. The Greek

[jjgold]

Jamiaca
Greek
rebatewager
bookmaker
matchbook

[SSLP]

Coach , would u imagine the deal rebatewager would give anyone on a $100k deposit .. damn.

[SSLP]

It all depends what u are looking for.

[dwaechte]

The advice you'll usually get is that Pinny, the Greek family, the Cris family, and Matchbook/WSEX are the only ones most people would be comfortable keeping 6 figures in. With the recent WSEX problems perhaps you might think twice about them.

[SSLP]

1. Cris family / high limit , good CS , good deals but very sharp lines
2. DSI , high limits , good payouts , small bonuses , and decent lines
3. Phoenix.com high limits , good payouts , good bonuses beatable lines
4. TheGreek.com high limits , good payouts , terrible CS and ok lines

[AMBlai01]

100k???

Story Telling down...Numbers UP...

[betyuda]

I dont mean to be rude, but I really am not joking. I usually place wagers in vegas of up to $15,000-$19,000.
But ya I am honestly just looking for a few sportsbooks, or exchanges that anyone feels safe placing up to $100k. thanks for all your responses.

[betyuda]

Safe sites to keep up to $100,000 in an account (top 5)

I am looking for a sportsbook or sportsexchange that would be best for keeping up to or over $100,000 in. (Top 5 selections) I sometimes place wagers in vegas of up to $15,000-$20,000. Thanks and I appreciate everyone's replies.

[SSLP]

Yuda just gave you some good insight bro , I work in this industry have been doing it for 10 years .

The books i mentioned are solid and endorsed by SBR

[BWINcomFraud]

I am trader, I can only tell you from traders perspective which book hase a strong balance sheet, is profitable and has outstanding reputation in the betting industry.
The top choice for any player who understands that even average or above average, reputable book that never was suspected of fraud, still can go bust during current recession, then you should consider this: Ladbrokes Plc
Here you can see their balance sheet and compare to other public betting companies, the numbers and perutation tells it all:
Ladbrokes

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-summary.do?companyId=387

William Hill

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-summary.do?companyId=3702

Party Gaming

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/financial-overview.do?companyId=5041

888 Holdings

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/financial-overview.do?companyId=5118

Clearly Ladbrokes and William Hill are leaders, now compare it to Bwin, who lose 20,000,000 EUR and have scam and fraud complaints flooding the internet.

http://www.bwin.org/InvestorRelations/Share/Aktienchart.aspx

[AMBlai01]

If you are wagering that amount of money...wouldn't it be smarter to move to Vegas and have accounts with Sports books out there instead of messing with Offshore....It just doesn't make much sense to even have to worry about having someplace offshore hold your money...

[SSLP]

If you are wagering that amount of money...wouldn't it be smarter to move to Vegas and have accounts with Sports books out there instead of messing with Offshore....It just doesn't make much sense to even have to worry about having someplace offshore hold your money...

not really Amby he is obv shopping for lines .

I have clients that bet $25k a game and deposit $250 k at a time for the season.

[SSLP]

I know its hard to believe but there are guys out there that do this m and have that much money and come to agreements with the owners of the books.

I mean wouldnt you like to take you $100k to a good offshore book and get 20% cash ?

[betyuda]

I know its hard to believe but there are guys out there that do this m and have that much money and come to agreements with the owners of the books.

I mean wouldnt you like to take you $100k to a good offshore book and get 20% cash ?

Thanks for your insight SSLP. It was very helpful. Would you ever recommend pinnacle sports??? thanks

[Willie Bee]

I mean wouldnt you like to take you $100k to a good offshore book and get 20% cash ?

Sure, if there wasn't a rollover. If I had $100K to throw into a book, what would $20K mean to me if I was going to have to rollover $600K on that total before I could cash out? That's just me possibly, the cheap old bastard that I am. But as I've said before and as I will continue to say to the end, I wish I had a dollar for each time we received a payout dispute that started with, "I deposited at XYZ sportsbook and got a X% bonus..."

[betyuda]

Top Sportsbooks safe? (Over $100,000 in each account)

Anybody or SSPC do you recommend Pinnacle Sports by any chance??

thanks for your insights

[SSLP]

Willie ,

I only endorse the same books you guys do.

with a $120,000 bankroll betting $2500 a game its not hard task and I have seen plenty do it

[milwaukee mike]

anyone with $100k to throw in a book should do a lot more investigating than just asking sbr imho.

if you are betting 20k a game it's awfully tough to bet that in one book.

good luck, i think why some people might not be taking you seriously:
1) you spelled grateful as "greatful"
2) you are betting large sums and haven't had online accounts yet
3) you are admitting to betting large sums of money (potentially illegal depending on your location) on a public forum
4) you are admitting to having/wanting to have large sums of money offshore, totally illegal if you don't file a fbar report

[SSLP]

Betyuda , Pinnacle is a good outfit however they are not what they used to be.

What is it that your looking for exactly , bonuses , lines , limits ?

[SSLP]

Dude wtf is up with people hating?

I have over 100 clients that each deposit $75 to 250k every august .

There are whales you know ?

[SSLP]

OH shit better watch out Betyuda the FBI just put a warrant out for your arrest under BETYUDA THE GAMBLER.

Mike are you one of those forum readers that thinks just because they have been posting for a while and reading they know allll about this industry ?

Take it from me , that I me behind closed doors .

$25k a game is nothing compared to some other numbers.

Dont believe me.. ask SBR JOHN or Dozer

[betyuda]

thanks for the warnings. well pinncale seemed to have high limits, and SBR John and Josh really recommended it to me. I have about 90k with them right now. should I withdraw?? I am really looking for high limits and security, and SBR recommended pinnacle so I took up on it. am i at risk?? they had nice odds as well for american games

[mathdotcom]

Put your 100k into win4real.com, sportbet.com, and Bowmans

[thespeculator]

i think 5dimes is a great book, although many people say they don't handle large amounts, they certainly are a quality book IMO

[BWINcomFraud]

I believe Betyuda, there are many millionaires who are novice at betting. Many stock traders who lost their jobs on Wall Street want to have a kick somewhere else and sports betting plus casino's is almost same place as WS.
There is only one difference, stock/commodities trading are very regulated marketplaces and it's difficult to defraud a customer, it's not impossible but it's damn hard I guess.
In offshore jurisdictions (Grenada gambling license 75,000$ only) there is high level of corruption, low level of oversight and banking system that is not so secure as inland. When I request a wire transfer from a futures broker, the money arrive to any large German bank next afternoon, no bullshit. I read on SBR that some players had very big troubles and time delay (decay) to get their money, even if they lost 10 times that with a bookmaker, And it is from a very reputable bookmaker.
That's why I think, Betyuda, you should look only for the biggest public companies and keep away from private in principle.

[xxdjstriderxx]

just ****ing do it in vegas, you can still shop for lines online for the diff casinos jesus christ

[durito]

pinnacle is your choice assuming you can play there

[SSLP]

just ****ing do it in vegas, you can still shop for lines online for the diff casinos jesus christ

haha whats the hard on with vegas ?

most of the pros dont live anywere near vegas , that was 20 years ago

[mathdotcom]

Sure, if there wasn't a rollover. If I had $100K to throw into a book, what would $20K mean to me if I was going to have to rollover $600K on that total before I could cash out? That's just me possibly, the cheap old bastard that I am. But as I've said before and as I will continue to say to the end, I wish I had a dollar for each time we received a payout dispute that started with, "I deposited at XYZ sportsbook and got a X% bonus..."

And what if you have a less than 20% chance of getting stiffed?

[mathdotcom]

I am trader, I can only tell you from traders perspective which book hase a strong balance sheet, is profitable and has outstanding reputation in the betting industry.
The top choice for any player who understands that even average or above average, reputable book that never was suspected of fraud, still can go bust during current recession, then you should consider this: Ladbrokes Plc
Here you can see their balance sheet and compare to other public betting companies, the numbers and perutation tells it all:
Ladbrokes

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-summary.do?companyId=387

William Hill

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-summary.do?companyId=3702

Party Gaming

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/financial-overview.do?companyId=5041

888 Holdings

http://www.hemscott.com/companies/financial-overview.do?companyId=5118

Clearly Ladbrokes and William Hill are leaders, now compare it to Bwin, who lose 20,000,000 EUR and have scam and fraud complaints flooding the internet.
http://www.bwin.org/InvestorRelation...tienchart.aspx

[FIRST CLASS]

anyone with $100k to throw in a book should do a lot more investigating than just asking sbr imho.

if you are betting 20k a game it's awfully tough to bet that in one book.

good luck, i think why some people might not be taking you seriously:
1) you spelled grateful as "greatful"
2) you are betting large sums and haven't had online accounts yet
3) you are admitting to betting large sums of money (potentially illegal depending on your location) on a public forum
4) you are admitting to having/wanting to have large sums of money offshore, totally illegal if you don't file a fbar report

MIKE

MOST people betting 100-K game or even 10-K a game or doing so on "CREDIT" I can assure you of this . . . . There are so few Honest/solid guys that can afford these type wagers that they are very very very very WELL taken care of as they can & will lose what 200 Post--up accts will lose in a given season . . . .

[betplom]

The advice you'll usually get is that Pinny, the Greek family, the Cris family, and Matchbook/WSEX are the only ones most people would be comfortable keeping 6 figures in. With the recent WSEX problems perhaps you might think twice about them.

I know if I was keeping $100K in a sportsbook account it sure as fukk wouldn't be with any offshore operation (CRIS|Pinnacle|Greek included) it would be with one of the larger UK or Australian bookmakers like Ladbrokes, Will Hill, Centrebet etc.

What type of protection/response would you expect from the government of Costa Rica, or Jamaica if something happened and the book couldn't/wouldn't pay?

Simply stating that I trust the UK and Australian regulators and don't trust any part of the Jamaican or Costa Rican government.

[durito]

i wonder how long it'd take to rollover 100k at $10 a pop