NHL apologizes to Vegas; suspends refs

[MinnesotaFats]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/26604171/nhl-apologizes-vegas-major-penalty-call%3fplatform=amp

Doesn't get me my $5k back but proves the call was horseshit.

Refs won't advance in playoffs either.

Should be terminated. They can't ref high school hockey fukkin jerkoffs.

[TheMetsSuck]

Please learn how to post a link!

[MinnesotaFats]

SBR mobile doesn't allow me!

[darrell74]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/26604171/nhl-apologizes-vegas-major-penalty-call?platform=amp

[5mike5]

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[dhristov211]

terminate?

lol

[goduke]

I’m shocked this story has so much traction. They still gave up 4 goals in five minutes and then gave up another one in overtime. Yes it changed the momentum but giving up 5 goals, you got to take some blame for.

[cankid]

Not sure how 4 Refs on the Ice get it wrong but they did .... They were supposed to work the 2nd round but that got axed fast

[jm8122]

I’m shocked this story has so much traction. They still gave up 4 goals in five minutes and then gave up another one in overtime. Yes it changed the momentum but giving up 5 goals, you got to take some blame for.

Agree here

[jjgold]

they lost fair and square

[lakerboy]

I’m shocked this story has so much traction. They still gave up 4 goals in five minutes and then gave up another one in overtime. Yes it changed the momentum but giving up 5 goals, you got to take some blame for.

I don't see the knights apologizing to their fans for allowing 4 ppgs in 5 minutes. They were only short one man not 2.

[Mrtop7]

The NHL should not apologize to Vegas Knights but to the bettors who took vegas.



sad

[KiDBaZkiT]

Suspended them in the face of the public, patted them on the back with a big smile later on at the lodge.

[MinnesotaFats]

I’m shocked this story has so much traction. They still gave up 4 goals in five minutes and then gave up another one in overtime. Yes it changed the momentum but giving up 5 goals, you got to take some blame for.

It's huge...this is Hockey's equivalent of an umpire calling a bases loaded balk because pitcher sneezed, of ref T'ng up and ejecting Michael Jordan because he got angry, or a 80 yard pass interference call on a desperation hail mary.

You can't line change in NHL if you cant gain control of the puck. It's 50/50 to start with, let alone the 1 man disadvantage. The fact there is no reprieve after a goal in this instance is more proof it was the absolute worst call in NHL history. VGK had guts working shifts for 90secs plus. Impossible physically to keep going.

To take a game away, and a series, away from the better team, who outplayed and outskated their opponent, in their opponents home, 4-1 in legit 5 on 5 hockey, is complete bullshit and will alienate a fan base and a lot if purist.

VGK actually outplayed SJ in game 6 as well, which is why I went so heavy on them in GM 7. The refs completely undermined 55 minutes of hockey because of their opinion/ feelings about a guy falling sideways.

It's a big deal...right up there w Saints no call pass interference.

[KVB]

I just love league retractions.

My favorite is in the NFL when they say "Well, these guys are no longer doing night games" as if they've been demoted to a morning or afternoon game.



Not sure what's more funny, the actions the leagues take after the fact, including rule changes, or the idotic fans that eat that shit up.

Insane might be a better word than idiotic due to that doing the same thing over and over definition.

[KVB]

It always reminds me of a friend of mine that managed a movie theater in college.

A guy came out mid movie complaining about people making noise in the movie, he was pissed and wanted his money back.

So Smitty gives him a free small popcorn, and takes no other action, and the guy goes back into the theater happy as a clam, and never complains again.

Far too many folks are that guy that complained.

[milwaukee mike]

It's huge...this is Hockey's equivalent of an umpire calling a bases loaded balk because pitcher sneezed, of ref T'ng up and ejecting Michael Jordan because he got angry, or a 80 yard pass interference call on a desperation hail mary.

You can't line change in NHL if you cant gain control of the puck. It's 50/50 to start with, let alone the 1 man disadvantage. The fact there is no reprieve after a goal in this instance is more proof it was the absolute worst call in NHL history. VGK had guts working shifts for 90secs plus. Impossible physically to keep going.

To take a game away, and a series, away from the better team, who outplayed and outskated their opponent, in their opponents home, 4-1 in legit 5 on 5 hockey, is complete bullshit and will alienate a fan base and a lot if purist.

VGK actually outplayed SJ in game 6 as well, which is why I went so heavy on them in GM 7. The refs completely undermined 55 minutes of hockey because of their opinion/ feelings about a guy falling sideways.

It's a big deal...right up there w Saints no call pass interference.

sharks outshot vegas by 10 in game 7 so it's not as though they were completely dominated like you claim

the refs didn't blow a 3-1 series lead, vegas did

the refs didn't blow a 3-0 lead in game 7, vegas did... yes the call was bad but the contact looked different live, just one of those calls that happens... maybe with a 3-0 lead halfway through the 3rd, your players shouldn't be committing stupid cross checks in the middle of the ice?

also i didn't know that only 5-5 hockey counted, so i guess we can take away those 3 power play/shorthanded goals that vegas scored in game 2... so then the sharks win the series 4-2

[MinnesotaFats]

sharks outshot vegas by 10 in game 7 so it's not as though they were completely dominated like you claim

the refs didn't blow a 3-1 series lead, vegas did

the refs didn't blow a 3-0 lead in game 7, vegas did... yes the call was bad but the contact looked different live, just one of those calls that happens... maybe with a 3-0 lead halfway through the 3rd, your players shouldn't be committing stupid cross checks in the middle of the ice?

also i didn't know that only 5-5 hockey counted, so i guess we can take away those 3 power play/shorthanded goals that vegas scored in game 2... so then the sharks win the series 4-2

You ever skated non stop for 90 seconds?
A 5 minute power play- you can't get line changes in like a normal 2 min minor. It's apples and oranges. How many 5 min majors did VGK benefit from in the series? What's good for the goose......

[milwaukee mike]

You ever skated non stop for 90 seconds?
A 5 minute power play- you can't get line changes in like a normal 2 min minor. It's apples and oranges. How many 5 min majors did VGK benefit from in the series? What's good for the goose......

yes i have

and those guys were just sitting on defense so it's not as though they were full-speed skating up and down the ice

average goals scored in a major penalty is way under 1, and only twice in the history of the nhl had a team given up 4 goals during a major, so it wasn't nearly as much of a gift as a lot of people think

went from average of about .2 goals to average of about .7 goals... so it was a half a goal gift

[goduke]

It's huge...this is Hockey's equivalent of an umpire calling a bases loaded balk because pitcher sneezed, of ref T'ng up and ejecting Michael Jordan because he got angry, or a 80 yard pass interference call on a desperation hail mary.

You can't line change in NHL if you cant gain control of the puck. It's 50/50 to start with, let alone the 1 man disadvantage. The fact there is no reprieve after a goal in this instance is more proof it was the absolute worst call in NHL history. VGK had guts working shifts for 90secs plus. Impossible physically to keep going.

To take a game away, and a series, away from the better team, who outplayed and outskated their opponent, in their opponents home, 4-1 in legit 5 on 5 hockey, is complete bullshit and will alienate a fan base and a lot if purist.

VGK actually outplayed SJ in game 6 as well, which is why I went so heavy on them in GM 7. The refs completely undermined 55 minutes of hockey because of their opinion/ feelings about a guy falling sideways.

It's a big deal...right up there w Saints no call pass interference.

I would like you to find 5 minute major historical results. I’m betting strongly 4 goals are not given up many times. I think this isn’t even close to your examples at all. Your balk call is one run, this is 4 goals. Michael Jordan? Come on man it’s one hockey player not Michael Jordan.
Blood has always been the way double minors and a lot of major penalties have been called. A 5 minute major is not physically impossible to keep from letting 4 goals in. Vegas fans are crying too much about this.

[Yazworm91]

Vegas lost this series in Game 6 when they had 59 shots and only 1 goal.

[Art Vandelay]

sharks outshot vegas by 10 in game 7 so it's not as though they were completely dominated like you claim

the refs didn't blow a 3-1 series lead, vegas did

the refs didn't blow a 3-0 lead in game 7, vegas did... yes the call was bad but the contact looked different live, just one of those calls that happens... maybe with a 3-0 lead halfway through the 3rd, your players shouldn't be committing stupid cross checks in the middle of the ice?

also i didn't know that only 5-5 hockey counted, so i guess we can take away those 3 power play/shorthanded goals that vegas scored in game 2... so then the sharks win the series 4-2

Exactly. With a commanding 3-0 lead and under 11 mins to play, why commit a ridiculous cross check right in front of the refs? Why even risk putting the game in their hands where something as catastrophic as that 5 minute major could be called? Just not smart hockey in that situation...

[MinnesotaFats]

Exactly. With a commanding 3-0 lead and under 11 mins to play, why commit a ridiculous cross check right in front of the refs? Why even risk putting the game in their hands where something as catastrophic as that 5 minute major could be called? Just not smart hockey in that situation...

Cross Checking is 2 minutes minor!

I agree it was a risky shot, but the fact dude fell awkward doesn't warrant the major call.

This was the 50th minute of game 7, the guys are fukking exhausted. Playoff hockey is 150% more effort than regular season. To compare the energy/ skill/ effort needed to kill those 5 minutes in game 7, 50th minute, on the road versus some meaningless regulation game is not fair.

It was a BS call

And yes, I was at gm 6 and saw VGK outskate and outplay SJ for nearly 80 minutes, and they couldn't get one to go in. But that observation was the rationale behind the GM 7 backing. VGK are the better team...in fact, they're the best team in the west. Unfortunately we had a NHL referee wreck a season because of a subjective interpretation of a fall that everyone in the league now acknowledges as a shit call, at a shit time and the piece of shit should never ref again his entire life

[JAKEPEAVY21]

time to move on

[milwaukee mike]

Cross Checking is 2 minutes minor!

I agree it was a risky shot, but the fact dude fell awkward doesn't warrant the major call.

This was the 50th minute of game 7, the guys are fukking exhausted. Playoff hockey is 150% more effort than regular season. To compare the energy/ skill/ effort needed to kill those 5 minutes in game 7, 50th minute, on the road versus some meaningless regulation game is not fair.

It was a BS call

And yes, I was at gm 6 and saw VGK outskate and outplay SJ for nearly 80 minutes, and they couldn't get one to go in. But that observation was the rationale behind the GM 7 backing. VGK are the better team...in fact, they're the best team in the west. Unfortunately we had a NHL referee wreck a season because of a subjective interpretation of a fall that everyone in the league now acknowledges as a shit call, at a shit time and the piece of shit should never ref again his entire life

hockey games and playoff series are a lot of good luck/bad luck and the "better team" seems to win about 50% of the series

RD 1 favorites

pittsburgh -140 LOST
tampa -340 LOST
wash -145 LOST
bost -160 WIN
stl -115 WIN
calg -185 LOST
nash -185 LOST
vegas -110 LOST

if you didn't have a large bet on vegas, you wouldn't care, and i would say betting big on a hockey game just because the team you bet on looks better isn't always the greatest idea... nba favorites almost always win playoff series, other sports not so much

[batt33]

It's huge...this is Hockey's equivalent of an umpire calling a bases loaded balk because pitcher sneezed, of ref T'ng up and ejecting Michael Jordan because he got angry, or a 80 yard pass interference call on a desperation hail mary.

You can't line change in NHL if you cant gain control of the puck. It's 50/50 to start with, let alone the 1 man disadvantage. The fact there is no reprieve after a goal in this instance is more proof it was the absolute worst call in NHL history. VGK had guts working shifts for 90secs plus. Impossible physically to keep going.

To take a game away, and a series, away from the better team, who outplayed and outskated their opponent, in their opponents home, 4-1 in legit 5 on 5 hockey, is complete bullshit and will alienate a fan base and a lot if purist.

VGK actually outplayed SJ in game 6 as well, which is why I went so heavy on them in GM 7. The refs completely undermined 55 minutes of hockey because of their opinion/ feelings about a guy falling sideways.

It's a big deal...right up there w Saints no call pass interference.

They had way more calls in their favor than SJ, and even had game 2 handed to them on a double swing miss-call for goaltender interference. It was a disallowed goal and a penalty due to officiating.

[2daBank]

They had way more calls in their favor than SJ, and even had game 2 handed to them on a double swing miss-call for goaltender interference. It was a disallowed goal and a penalty due to officiating.

Don’t mind Fats he good dude but he been irrationally crazy about this one call for way too long now, and calling Vegas best team in West is hilarious, they wernt even that last year just got lucky. If they were so great they would have won series before 7, wouldn’t have allowed 4 goals during one PP, etc etc etc..

[Bucketwah]

They”ll be reviews for this type of thing soon just like all the other pro sports now. Everything in every sport will be reviewable soon especially with the mass legal betting going forward. Games will be much longer for all sports in the future. More income via commercials, air-time. Sports are all in for reviewing now.. give it time and nhl will start revewing these types of calls. Yea it didnt help with your bet this year but hopefully helps later on

[batt33]

Don’t mind Fats he good dude but he been irrationally crazy about this one call for way too long now, and calling Vegas best team in West is hilarious, they wernt even that last year just got lucky. If they were so great they would have won series before 7, wouldn’t have allowed 4 goals during one PP, etc etc etc..

I agree on both, GL Today!

[HockeyRocks]

Perhaps if you get this upset over a gambling loss, find another hobby....