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  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #106
    Originally posted by lakerboy
    Harden got to them to the finals with that performance vs spurs
    This is true.

    Either way, Miami was the better team. It is what it is.
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    • KRIT
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      • 01-11-14
      • 12883

      #107
      I think this goes back for game five all tied up. This has seven game series written all over it.
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      • Goat Milk
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        • 03-24-10
        • 25850

        #108
        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
        i think that's just selective memory, durant was awesome in those 2012 finals, shot 55% and scored 31 pts/game

        after going up 1-0 in the series, okc was right there in game 2/3/4, any or all of those games were 1 or 2 shots/calls away from going in the win column for okc

        14 more fouls called on okc, call 14 more fouls on miami instead and okc was the champs
        no doubt durant was amazing, but Wade was a better player at that time in their careers imo. Wade took a huge sacrifice playing on that team. One year earlier his stats were amazing, even playing alongside Bron and Bosh, and before they came to the team, one year before, Wade led the league in scoring and was top 5 in assists. So I don't think Durant was at that level, especially not defensively, where Wade was a one man wrecking crew.

        Also with regard to the fouls, you have 2 players in James and Wade who are two of the best in the HISTORY of the NBA at attacking the paint and scoring. Both those guys literally had no jump shot save for the occasional mid range. OKC was not that type of team at all. So the foul disrepency is pretty justified.

        You don't call the same amount of fouls for both teams. That's not how it works. Superstars who attack the paint are usually gonna shoot the most free throws.

        OKC melted down in the crunch scenarios while Wade James and Bosh made the clutch plays. OKC didn't deserve that series. They got handled by their big brother.
        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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        • shadymcgrady
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          • 02-27-12
          • 10036

          #109
          Originally posted by Goat Milk
          no doubt durant was amazing, but Wade was a better player at that time in their careers imo. Wade took a huge sacrifice playing on that team. One year earlier his stats were amazing, even playing alongside Bron and Bosh, and before they came to the team, one year before, Wade led the league in scoring and was top 5 in assists. So I don't think Durant was at that level, especially not defensively, where Wade was a one man wrecking crew.

          Also with regard to the fouls, you have 2 players in James and Wade who are two of the best in the HISTORY of the NBA at attacking the paint and scoring. Both those guys literally had no jump shot save for the occasional mid range. OKC was not that type of team at all. So the foul disrepency is pretty justified.

          You don't call the same amount of fouls for both teams. That's not how it works. Superstars who attack the paint are usually gonna shoot the most free throws.

          OKC melted down in the crunch scenarios while Wade James and Bosh made the clutch plays. OKC didn't deserve that series. They got handled by their big brother.
          Can't rly argue with that assessment
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          • shadymcgrady
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            • 02-27-12
            • 10036

            #110
            Originally posted by Goat Milk
            If bucks managed to get to the finals they would get slapped, cousins or no cousins. Bucks second best player is Khris Middleton bro
            Seen stranger things happen
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            • thomorino
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              • 06-01-17
              • 45842

              #111
              Miami was the better team in 2012, but the officiating of that series was disgusting, Miami got all the calls, OKC would have won at least 2 games if the series was officiating fairly.
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              • thechaoz
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-23-09
                • 12154

                #112
                It took West and okc EVERYTHING to win that game. They are cooked

                RIP CITY
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                • Goat Milk
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                  • 03-24-10
                  • 25850

                  #113
                  Originally posted by thomorino
                  Miami was the better team in 2012, but the officiating of that series was disgusting, Miami got all the calls, OKC would have won at least 2 games if the series was officiating fairly.
                  I'm not sure why you always blame officiating. There's always gonna be some errors. You just gotta play ball. I remember there being one questionable call that could have been called on Lebron against Durant at the end of game 2 I believe, but then when you think about it, Miami won that game wire-to-wire I'm pretty sure. I remember them losing game 1 and then coming out game 2 and just detroying OKC from the getgo. And OKC crawled back. So Miami deserved to win that game regardless.

                  What I remember most about that series is that it came down to clutch plays in the final moments. Especially defensively. The 2 rings Miami won, they were holding teams in the 90s. They held a team of Durant Westbrook and Harden to like 90-some points every game... Even though they were all young, they were all still all stars and Durant was a superstar. That just speaks to what a wrecking crew Wade and Lebron were defensively. That's not always gonna show up on the stat sheet, but that's how Miami won their championships.

                  Wade took James Harden out of that series.

                  I remember Twizzle pounding Miami +220 to win that series after they lost game 1. I put some on it too. I couldn't believe those odds. Wade and James as 2 to 1 dogs in their prime? Should have literally put my house on it.
                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                  • thomorino
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                    • 06-01-17
                    • 45842

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Goat Milk

                    I'm not sure why you always blame officiating. There's always gonna be some errors. You just gotta play ball. I remember there being one questionable call that could have been called on Lebron against Durant at the end of game 2 I believe, but then when you think about it, Miami won that game wire-to-wire I'm pretty sure. I remember them losing game 1 and then coming out game 2 and just detroying OKC from the getgo. And OKC crawled back. So Miami deserved to win that game regardless.

                    What I remember most about that series is that it came down to clutch plays in the final moments. Especially defensively. The 2 rings Miami won, they were holding teams in the 90s. They held a team of Durant Westbrook and Harden to like 90-some points every game... Even though they were all young, they were all still all stars and Durant was a superstar. That just speaks to what a wrecking crew Wade and Lebron were defensively. That's not always gonna show up on the stat sheet, but that's how Miami won their championships.

                    Wade took James Harden out of that series.

                    I remember Twizzle pounding Miami +220 to win that series after they lost game 1. I put some on it too. I couldn't believe those odds. Wade and James as 2 to 1 dogs in their prime? Should have literally put my house on it.
                    I had bets on Miami in the futures market, the officiating was very favorable towards Miami, they called ridiculous offensive fouls on Durant all series.
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                    • shocka1212
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                      • 10-06-12
                      • 16788

                      #115
                      Originally posted by thomorino
                      I had bets on Miami in the futures market, the officiating was very favorable towards Miami, they called ridiculous offensive fouls on Durant all series.
                      Of course you did.....
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                      • thomorino
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                        • 06-01-17
                        • 45842

                        #116
                        Originally posted by shocka1212

                        Of course you did.....
                        Fuk off
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                        • milwaukee mike
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                          • 08-22-07
                          • 26914

                          #117
                          Originally posted by thomorino
                          I had bets on Miami in the futures market, the officiating was very favorable towards Miami, they called ridiculous offensive fouls on Durant all series.
                          this is totally true

                          officiating was horribly biased to get lebron a title

                          to say that OKC was "not that kind of team" is ridiculous, they out-freethrowed their opponents all year long, at a much higher margin than miami, and then magically they forgot how to get calls in the finals

                          3-5 calls go the other way and okc wins the series 4-1... that's all they needed... instead they had 14 more fouls go against them
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                          • krk1030
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-13-08
                            • 17610

                            #118
                            Fading OKC based on what Westbrook is wearing into the arena.

                            Wtf was that
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                            • sosawestbrook
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-10-16
                              • 3135

                              #119
                              Been about 50/50 this playoffs fellas but I’ve had a strong feeling OKC gets past the Blazers.

                              I think we’ll find ways to critique Russ game forever because he is the Stone Cold of the NBA. F you ima do me attitude.

                              A lot of the league feels like the uprising of the attitude era in WWF to me. Twitter & IG really giving these guys opportunities to promote themselves as characters.

                              Russ is stone cold. Harden the rock.
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                              • krk1030
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-13-08
                                • 17610

                                #120
                                Bigger issue fot OKC is George is hurt and can't shoot.

                                Can still make plays and get to the line but they are on danger of more horrible three point shooting as nobody else is consistent.
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                                • sosawestbrook
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-10-16
                                  • 3135

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by krk1030
                                  Bigger issue fot OKC is George is hurt and can't shoot.

                                  Can still make plays and get to the line but they are on danger of more horrible three point shooting as nobody else is consistent.
                                  Bro I honestly think that whole narrative was blown up by the media. He’s been playing hurt for damn near a month now. It is what it is at this point.

                                  OKC never needed to outshoot opponents to win. Their defense & clutch buckets is what makes them a good team.

                                  I’ll give you this though when PG was shooting 40% from 3fg this team was ELITE. That’s the only question at this point is if we can get first half of the season Paul George versus limping to the finish line Paul George.
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83686

                                    #122
                                    Westbrook needs to work on his shot.. He's really a limited shooter, can't hit shiiit most of the time..
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                                    • BigDofBA
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-30-09
                                      • 19313

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by krk1030
                                      Bigger issue fot OKC is George is hurt and can't shoot.

                                      Can still make plays and get to the line but they are on danger of more horrible three point shooting as nobody else is consistent.
                                      Yep.

                                      The worst thing to happen to OKC is to see a few three go down. Then they start jacking them up from everywhere.

                                      They’re getting into a shooting contest with Portland. They’re playing right into the Blazer’s hands.
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                                      • Big John Studd
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 06-13-14
                                        • 542

                                        #124
                                        He’s a myth.
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                                        • pilebuck13
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                                          • 05-15-15
                                          • 17918

                                          #125
                                          Lol glad Portland eating them up after the utter disrespect they showed last game... Paul George with the final second dunk yah they deserve every bit of this.
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                                          • krk1030
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-13-08
                                            • 17610

                                            #126
                                            Westbrick will be home before May 1st again.
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                                            • krk1030
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-13-08
                                              • 17610

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                              Lol glad Portland eating them up after the utter disrespect they showed last game... Paul George with the final second dunk yah they deserve every bit of this.
                                              Westbrick "rocking the baby" as they fight for their lives. Total clown.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #128
                                                I think they should move Westbrook but no team would want them
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                                                • SmokingKing
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-14-19
                                                  • 1234

                                                  #129
                                                  when the money is on Westcrook... lightning doesnt strike "twice"
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                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                    • 19313

                                                    #130
                                                    I keep waiting for Lilliard to Rock the baby on Westbrook.
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                                                    • DOM-Ganador
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-30-12
                                                      • 4479

                                                      #131
                                                      5-20 tonight. Seems reasonable.

                                                      Self awareness is a sign of maturity. This dude is still in diapers.

                                                      Think he takes a month off. Hits the beach. Chills.???
                                                      Then hits the gym with a shooting coach to improve himself and his team for the next season.

                                                      No chance.
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                                                      • pilebuck13
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                                                        • 05-15-15
                                                        • 17918

                                                        #132
                                                        Lol if your not pounding Portland next game something wrong w you lol okc toast
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                                                        • DOM-Ganador
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-30-12
                                                          • 4479

                                                          #133
                                                          As Al-Farouq Aminu checks in, Blazers assistant David Vanterpool tells him, "Chief, don't help on Russ. Let him shoot." Westbrook has tried to stick with the playmaking in this fourth quarter despite the deficit.



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                                                          • lakerboy
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-02-09
                                                            • 94383

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                            Lol if your not pounding Portland next game something wrong w you lol okc toast
                                                            You excited to play Denver and lose?
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                                                            • bucket2233
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 03-25-13
                                                              • 367

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                                              5-20 tonight. Seems reasonable.

                                                              Self awareness is a sign of maturity. This dude is still in diapers.

                                                              Think he takes a month off. Hits the beach. Chills.???
                                                              Then hits the gym with a shooting coach to improve himself and his team for the next season.

                                                              No chance.
                                                              Amen. He plays hard, but he is what an old coach of mine would call a mental midget... and he has somehow gotten less self-aware as he has gotten older. His bad decisions snowball into worse decisions when the pressure turns up.

                                                              Westbrook is a stat stuffer when the games don’t matter - playing with the primary objective of achieving his precious triple-double. The triple-double thing has gotten him a pass way too many times. He’s been exposed.... again.
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                                                              • shocka1212
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                                                                • 10-06-12
                                                                • 16788

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                Westbrook needs to work on his shot.. He's really a limited shooter, can't hit shiiit most of the time..
                                                                he'll be washed very soon. the second that athleticism regresses, he'll have nothing to work with.
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                                                                • Goat Milk
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                                                                  • 03-24-10
                                                                  • 25850

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                                  he'll be washed very soon. the second that athleticism regresses, he'll have nothing to work with.
                                                                  Can see Westbrook being that athletic till he's 34. Still a long ways imo. But he's not gonna win a ring unless he sacrfices stats. He needs to be averaging 20, 5 and 6. Running without the ball more.

                                                                  People say improve a jump shot, but no. Hit shot is what it is by now. He needs to take a page out of Clyde Drexler and Kobe and Wade's book and learn how to cut without the ball.

                                                                  This will increase his fg%.
                                                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                  • kingdom
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-25-10
                                                                    • 10099

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                    Can see Westbrook being that athletic till he's 34. Still a long ways imo. But he's not gonna win a ring unless he sacrfices stats. He needs to be averaging 20, 5 and 6. Running without the ball more.

                                                                    People say improve a jump shot, but no. Hit shot is what it is by now. He needs to take a page out of Clyde Drexler and Kobe and Wade's book and learn how to cut without the ball.

                                                                    This will increase his fg%.
                                                                    actually he needs to get to the line more like harden and lebron. in his fascination with assists he doesn't penetrate the lane at the rate he used to. russ can freight train into the lane like a mini lebron. he needs to use more picks as well and be more agressive in a scoring sense. he has everything d rose had when he won the mvp.
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                                                                    • IBetYou
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-03-15
                                                                      • 8158

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Thunder seem to have so many advantages in this series. Adams is better than Kanter. George is much better than McCollum. Their 6th man Schroder makes a much better 3rd wheel than any of the Blazers subs. Ferguson/ Grant vs Harkless/ Aminu is basically a wash.

                                                                      Also, I don't buy the talk that George is hurt. He played superb in the home finale vs the Rockets before sitting out the Milwaukee game as a precaution. Now everyone believes he's hurt because he's been struggling with his shot... but he played poorly in last year's playoffs also. I think it's more that he's having to do all the defensive work while playing 2nd fiddle on offense. It's clear that this team revolves around the wrong guy.
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                                                                      • spippen
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-17-09
                                                                        • 3874

                                                                        #140
                                                                        5 for 21 is pathetic. He was running his big mouth in game 3 he was destined to fail in this game. Portland for the win in blowout fashion coming in game 5.
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