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  • Regul8er
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-06-07
    • 10666

    #71
    Dont get me wrong, Ive been offshore for like 12 years now........and I like the ease of betting, live betting, options, etc. I will continue to play offshore, but to have an out 15 minutes from my house is pretty freaking nice, especially if I'm making a bigger play like Papertrail mentioned above. But the runarounds in the last year or so with slowpaying, verifications, etc is becoming a royal pain in the a$$.

    It might take a few years, but I'm afraid offshore will be eventually be on life support.
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    • thomorino
      Restricted User
      • 06-01-17
      • 45842

      #72
      Originally posted by Regul8er
      Dont get me wrong, Ive been offshore for like 12 years now........and I like the ease of betting, live betting, options, etc. I will continue to play offshore, but to have an out 15 minutes from my house is pretty freaking nice, especially if I'm making a bigger play like Papertrail mentioned above.

      It might take a few years, but I'm afraid offshore will be eventually be on life support.
      It will take more than a couple years, Pennsylvania, New York, California, don't even have online gambling, the legal process is slow and its not nationally organized.
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      • milwaukee mike
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-22-07
        • 26914

        #73
        Originally posted by Regul8er
        Dont get me wrong, Ive been offshore for like 12 years now........and I like the ease of betting, live betting, options, etc. I will continue to play offshore, but to have an out 15 minutes from my house is pretty freaking nice, especially if I'm making a bigger play like Papertrail mentioned above. But the runarounds in the last year or so with slowpaying, verifications, etc is becoming a royal pain in the a$$.

        It might take a few years, but I'm afraid offshore will be eventually be on life support.
        more choices is always better

        hopefully everywhere gets legal sportsbooks, with mobile, and allows tons of competition where legal sportsbooks will offer some rewards programs/bonuses

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        • milwaukee mike
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-22-07
          • 26914

          #74
          Originally posted by MrCavalier
          Advantage player I’m.. 500 dollar free bet from Wynn.. I win I take it.. I lose they take it.. I don’t have to risk the 500 dollar bet 12x more before I get my cash.. I might be wrong but isn’t there a rollover for your free play? Be honest you great advantage player... Have the online books made it harder or easier to claim and walk away with your bonus in the last 10 years... Your a shill bro for the books.. you make it too easy
          please enlighten me as to which books in particular i'm shilling for

          i have never taken any money from a sportsbook/forum for posting, and to the contrary i have been banned from sportsbooks for things i've posted about them

          but carry on with your totally incorrect bullshit
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          • StackinGreen
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-09-10
            • 12140

            #75
            If Pinnacle had agents that you could meet up with in person (even if they required post up) in the USA then it would be a no-brainer.

            Only then.
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            • MrCavalier
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-27-18
              • 279

              #76
              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
              please enlighten me as to which books in particular i'm shilling for

              i have never taken any money from a sportsbook/forum for posting, and to the contrary i have been banned from sportsbooks for things i've posted about them

              but carry on with your totally incorrect bullshit

              Dont have the the energy to post.. But off the top of my head... Player vs book... Your 90%+ on book side.. like I said your a shill.. not for one but for all..
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              • MrCavalier
                SBR Sharp
                • 12-27-18
                • 279

                #77
                Is this site we post on an ARBITRATOR for those who get fcked by online books? Asking for a friend... There are no A plus books.. Just books that take longer to fck you...
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                • milwaukee mike
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-22-07
                  • 26914

                  #78
                  Originally posted by MrCavalier
                  Is this site we post on an ARBITRATOR for those who get fcked by online books? Asking for a friend... There are no A plus books.. Just books that take longer to fck you...
                  the site gets paid by sportsbooks, so in the gray area of course the path of least resistance is siding with a sponsor

                  long-term posters and people on the reasonable side are going to get more respect and be treated better than book bashers

                  i'm 90% on the book side because 95% of the poster complaints are from thieves and scammers... if you found out all the details of some of the posters that ended up getting made whole, you would side with the books too

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                  • mcaulay777
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-13-10
                    • 1767

                    #79
                    Not many people have talked about Iowa I can understand not to many do. But sports betting here has passed the house and senate and is now awaiting the Governor who is Kim Reynolds a republican, for her signature. It has not arrived on her desk yet. She stated that she will not sign it till she looks it over. That was 3 days ago nothing since.
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                    • milwaukee mike
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-22-07
                      • 26914

                      #80
                      Originally posted by mcaulay777
                      Not many people have talked about Iowa I can understand not to many do. But sports betting here has passed the house and senate and is now awaiting the Governor who is Kim Reynolds a republican, for her signature. It has not arrived on her desk yet. She stated that she will not sign it till she looks it over. That was 3 days ago nothing since.
                      jeez i'm gonna be surrounded by states allowing sports betting!

                      wisconsin is terrible, wouldn't even allow a hard rock casino in the milwaukee area, so we have a whopping 1 casino in milwaukee, 1 in green bay, and 1 decent one in wisconsin dells

                      the 3 major metropolitan areas have a combined 3 casinos, (and madison is only bingo slots) what a joke
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                      • MrCavalier
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 12-27-18
                        • 279

                        #81
                        Originally Posted by milwaukee mike

                        please enlighten me as to which books in particular i'm shilling for

                        but carry on with your totally incorrect bullshit..

                        I’m 90% on the books side..



                        So Mike, I guess I’m really not posting totally incorrect bullshit..

                        These are your words Mike not mine...

                        Mike serious question... Are you all there mentally?
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388189

                          #82
                          legal books cannot compete with offshore books post up or credit

                          very little costs so they can offer juicy promos and much lower juice all around

                          I about 3 months I will have access to at least 5 books online PA and will not even use other than free signup promos
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                          • louisvillekid
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-14-07
                            • 9254

                            #83
                            Originally posted by MrCavalier
                            Originally Posted by milwaukee mike

                            please enlighten me as to which books in particular i'm shilling for

                            but carry on with your totally incorrect bullshit..

                            I’m 90% on the books side..



                            So Mike, I guess I’m really not posting totally incorrect bullshit..

                            These are your words Mike not mine...

                            Mike serious question... Are you all there mentally?
                            Wow! What a way to take his words out of context and cherry pick the ones that fit your narrative.
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                            • MrCavalier
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-27-18
                              • 279

                              #84
                              Originally posted by louisvillekid
                              Wow! What a way to take his words out of context and cherry pick the ones that fit your narrative.
                              Not true.. I quoted his facts.. He said I posted totally incorrect busllshit. He said he isn’t a shill for books, but sides with them 90% of the time.. Only quote I left out would be that 95% of complaints come from scammers and thieves.. He has zero facts to back that up... That’s why it was left out..
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 60707

                                #85
                                Originally posted by MrCavalier
                                Is this site we post on an ARBITRATOR for those who get fcked by online books? Asking for a friend... There are no A plus books.. Just books that take longer to fck you...
                                Yeah righty oh.

                                You must be a scammer, and an incompetent one, if every book you play at eventually "fcks you".

                                Peanut gallery around here getting worse by the day.
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                                • milwaukee mike
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-22-07
                                  • 26914

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by MrCavalier
                                  Not true.. I quoted his facts.. He said I posted totally incorrect busllshit. He said he isn’t a shill for books, but sides with them 90% of the time.. Only quote I left out would be that 95% of complaints come from scammers and thieves.. He has zero facts to back that up... That’s why it was left out..
                                  shilling means getting paid to post positive stuff right?

                                  zero facts to back things up?

                                  how about the recent dispute with heritage, where the poster bet over $7000 when he knew his max bet on soccer was AT MOST $500... then he lied and said he was betting that on other events too... also took a settlement and admitted he was wrong but then still came here looking for more.

                                  i still sided with the player and helped get him paid in full by heritage! while you bash the books i work with them to help players, all the while making enemies because some people just want everyone to side with every player 100% of the time, no questions asked, it's always the books fault right?

                                  so kindly either help someone once in a while, or post something funny or interesting, otherwise you're of no use to the forum or to the human race
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                                  • MrCavalier
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-27-18
                                    • 279

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                    shilling means getting paid to post positive stuff right?

                                    zero facts to back things up?

                                    how about the recent dispute with heritage, where the poster bet over $7000 when he knew his max bet on soccer was AT MOST $500... then he lied and said he was betting that on other events too... also took a settlement and admitted he was wrong but then still came here looking for more.

                                    i still sided with the player and helped get him paid in full by heritage! while you bash the books i work with them to help players, all the while making enemies because some people just want everyone to side with every player 100% of the time, no questions asked, it's always the books fault right?

                                    so kindly either help someone once in a while, or post something funny or interesting, otherwise you're of no use to the forum or to the human race
                                    Your life is shit, if you judge it by helping gamblers on a online forum. I’ll make a bet Mike. Let’s see who donated more last year... I’ll gladly post my tax returns.. If you donated more I will never post again.. If I donated more you leave? Or are you just posting more incorrect bullshit?

                                    Your avatar also show how decent of man you are.. I’m sure women in your life are really proud of you.
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                                    • milwaukee mike
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-22-07
                                      • 26914

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by MrCavalier
                                      Your life is shit, if you judge it by helping gamblers on a online forum. I’ll make a bet Mike. Let’s see who donated more last year... I’ll gladly post my tax returns.. If you donated more I will never post again.. If I donated more you leave? Or are you just posting more incorrect bullshit?

                                      Your avatar also show how decent of man you are.. I’m sure women in your life are really proud of you.
                                      blah blah blah

                                      i don't care whether you ever post again or not, and i have nothing to prove to anyone, and who could prove a return was actually filed without a transcript anyway ... i would much rather you continue posting, but stop with the name calling and arguing

                                      why else would you be here if it's not to have fun and help people? my avatar is a joke going back a long time to when people thought i had a fetish for avril lavigne and was gonna lock her in my basement lol

                                      hopefully we can get past this, life is too short to argue with someone you don't even know
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63165

                                        #89
                                        Holy shit

                                        Milk, you didn't actually like Avril?

                                        that is a joke?
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                                        • milwaukee mike
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-22-07
                                          • 26914

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          Holy shit

                                          Milk, you didn't actually like Avril?

                                          that is a joke?
                                          i like avril quite a bit

                                          if you remember way back, i used to alternate girls/singers as avatars until a couple people got pissed and said where's avril... so i went to avril only which apparently made me a fan boy or stalker

                                          then when avril was mia with lyme disease someone said i kidnapped her, so i found that picture
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                                          • kidcudi92
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-14-11
                                            • 15434

                                            #91
                                            so can we get back to Indiana gambling discussion or nah...?
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                                            • The General
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 13279

                                              #92
                                              LoL. Compare tax returns. Don't think I've seen that 😂
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388189

                                                #93
                                                -115 lines
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                                                • Regul8er
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-06-07
                                                  • 10666

                                                  #94
                                                  -115 lines? When the other side is -105, that would make sense. 20 cent line is pretty standard. Obviously there is reduced juice at some books, but Id say the majority are paying -110’offshore regardless
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                                                  • pinnacle420
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-01-12
                                                    • 6254

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    legal books cannot compete with offshore books post up or credit

                                                    very little costs so they can offer juicy promos and much lower juice all around

                                                    I about 3 months I will have access to at least 5 books online PA and will not even use other than free signup promos
                                                    Offshore is a dying business model JJ... your not fooling anyone here..
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                                                    • thomorino
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                      • 45842

                                                      #96
                                                      If you look at these casinos in northern indiana in places like Gary, none are going to be very successful if Chicago has casinos in the city, northern Indiana is too close.
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                                                      • kruppe
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-25-14
                                                        • 9

                                                        #97
                                                        I haven't seen this mentioned but the tax on winnings I've heard is about 9.5 percent. So If I lay 110 to win 100 I'm going to win 90.50, seems like I'll either stick offshore or with my bookie
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388189

                                                          #98
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by kruppe
                                                            I haven't seen this mentioned but the tax on winnings I've heard is about 9.5 percent. So If I lay 110 to win 100 I'm going to win 90.50, seems like I'll either stick offshore or with my bookie
                                                            that means the tax THE CASINOS pay on their net winnings

                                                            if you cash in a winning sportsbook ticket, there would be no taxes on it just like vegas
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                                                            • StackinGreen
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-09-10
                                                              • 12140

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by kruppe
                                                              I haven't seen this mentioned but the tax on winnings I've heard is about 9.5 percent. So If I lay 110 to win 100 I'm going to win 90.50, seems like I'll either stick offshore or with my bookie
                                                              No, the book is taxed this on its revenues by the state of Indiana.
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                                                              • Natty68
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 05-11-14
                                                                • 550

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by kruppe
                                                                I haven't seen this mentioned but the tax on winnings I've heard is about 9.5 percent. So If I lay 110 to win 100 I'm going to win 90.50, seems like I'll either stick offshore or with my bookie
                                                                ^^^this^^^
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                                                                • thomorino
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 06-01-17
                                                                  • 45842

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Indiana has one of the strongest budgets in the US, Daniels and other governors did a great job, the state has a big surplus, I doubt taxes on gambling will be go up much, the state doesn't even need the money.
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                                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 12140

                                                                    #103
                                                                    There's just no reason they shouldn't have it. I hope this creates a racebook so it's another lower tax OTB option.
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                                                                    • RockBottom
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-03-08
                                                                      • 1447

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                      If you look at these casinos in northern indiana in places like Gary, none are going to be very successful if Chicago has casinos in the city, northern Indiana is too close.
                                                                      Totally disagree. Lake County is the 2nd most populated county in Indiana (roughly 500k). The counties that border Lake Michigan basically are Chicago suburbs, without the high Illinois taxes. The Majestic Star on Lake Mich in Gary got a huge victory and is looking to move to a land based casino off of the Borman Freeway (94). If any would feel it, it’s Four Winds in the Ind/Mich border in Michigan, but they are sold out every weekend also.
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388189

                                                                        #105
                                                                        No money in Indy

                                                                        dirt poor and fukkin hicks
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