it's zack greinke's fault he has ruined free agency with that contract arizona gave him
teams are getting smarter, even the yanks and redsox who were known for over paying free agents
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#3
glad they are getting frozen out
Teams now know ruination to give long term huge contracts
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#4
Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
it's zack greinke's fault he has ruined free agency with that contract arizona gave him
Look what $$$ can buy you
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MinnesotaFats
SBR Posting Legend
12-18-10
14758
#5
It's really amazing
The players complain about it but it's their own fault!
Love Verlander chiming in... no mention of that 4 year stretch of .500 pitching w a 4.00+ ERA lol
NBA going to go thru this next
NHL learned lesson that lockout year
NFL still best model
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cincinnatikid513
SBR Aristocracy
11-23-17
45360
#6
Originally posted by Sam Odom
Look what $$$ can buy you
she used to be a dallas cowboys cheerleader and model
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#7
Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
she used to be a dallas cowboys cheerleader and model
still aint bad even after two babies
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ikid2groove415
SBR Posting Legend
01-08-18
11981
#8
Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
it's zack greinke's fault he has ruined free agency with that contract arizona gave him
teams are getting smarter, even the yanks and redsox who were known for over paying free agents
Red Sox got the highest payroll in baseball
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cincinnatikid513
SBR Aristocracy
11-23-17
45360
#9
Originally posted by ikid2groove415
Red Sox got the highest payroll in baseball
yah but they are getting smarter look what they paid for jd martinez
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GUMMO77
SBR Hall of Famer
08-23-10
9294
#10
Originally posted by Sam Odom
Look what $$$ can buy you
White babbies?
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ikid2groove415
SBR Posting Legend
01-08-18
11981
#11
Plenty terrible contracts - not just grinke- this stands out because he plays every 5 days - position players play everyday
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champlain
SBR Wise Guy
03-19-14
713
#12
The fact of the matter is machado and Harper are not that great. If it was Trout, every team would hand out 300 million dollars. Harper has 1 great season and Machado plays in Camden yards and he doesn’t like to hustle. In baseball, players don’t sell tickets, winning does.
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ikid2groove415
SBR Posting Legend
01-08-18
11981
#13
Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
yah but they are getting smarter look what they paid for jd martinez
Really most of the time when teams open there wallet they get burn - this is the 1 rare case where it’s working right now - but it’s only 1 year - let’s see what he does when the contract is done
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ikid2groove415
SBR Posting Legend
01-08-18
11981
#14
Originally posted by champlain
The fact of the matter is machado and Harper are not that great. If it was Trout, every team would hand out 300 million dollars. Harper has 1 great season and Machado plays in Camden yards and he doesn’t like to hustle. In baseball, players don’t sell tickets, winning does.
Harper is the 1 rare case where people wanna see - he is the biggest draw in baseball
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cincinnatikid513
SBR Aristocracy
11-23-17
45360
#15
should cross the giants off the list then if this is true
Despite rumored offers/wishes of teams, word is Bryce Harper is not signing — or even considering — short-term deals.
Hes not getting a 10 year contract - Scott boras is going take the L this time -
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#17
Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
It's really amazing
The players complain about it but it's their own fault!
Love Verlander chiming in... no mention of that 4 year stretch of .500 pitching w a 4.00+ ERA lol
NBA going to go thru this next
NHL learned lesson that lockout year
NFL still best model
If the NBA cut down on MAX deals.... these 25 mil per year etc contracts.... I think these players would be pissed off.... force another lockout with the players union. Cuban kind of hinted... along with other owners... they are making a killing. So, I don't know how you'd stop these mega deals?
Typically... once something hits a MAX LEVEL... how do you subtract it? Make it normal again? It's impossible.
The NHL doesn't pay as much.... great tool to go by... but they also don't draw that much revenue compared to the NBA owners.
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ikid2groove415
SBR Posting Legend
01-08-18
11981
#18
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
If the NBA cut down on MAX deals.... these 25 mil per year etc contracts.... I think these players would be pissed off.... force another lockout with the players union. Cuban kind of hinted... along with other owners... they are making a killing. So, I don't know how you'd stop these mega deals?
Typically... once something hits a MAX LEVEL... how do you subtract it? Make it normal again? It's impossible.
The NHL doesn't pay as much.... great tool to go by... but they also don't draw that much revenue compared to the NBA owners.
Basketball only have a 12 men roster - it’s a players league - teams market there superstars- owners are making a shit load of money - nobody is going break up a good thing ? Nobody even watches hockey - they can’t handle a real men sport
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champlain
SBR Wise Guy
03-19-14
713
#19
Originally posted by ikid2groove415
Harper is the 1 rare case where people wanna see - he is the biggest draw in baseball
No, you really don’t. Baseball is by nature an unspectacular sport. It’s not like basketball where you see amazing athleticism and the height and size of these players is a sight to behold.
What’s so spectacular about what Harper does that you need to see him live... Even if you disagree, you probably can only enjoy 10 minutes total for his at bats and the rest of time he’s standing in the outfield or sitting on the bench.
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MinnesotaFats
SBR Posting Legend
12-18-10
14758
#20
Cities could jack up nba rents or stop paying for stadiums for a start
I dont understand the repeated "you have to see Harper live" argument
1- he's in RF and is average at best defensive
He's a .250 hitter
He's got pop in his bat, but so does Max Kepler lol
Is Bryce Harper worth 10 Max Keplers?
It's baseball. Harper hasn't won anything, hasn't done anything and still has that shithead attitude in the clubhouse.
The game is about 8 guys in the field not making errors, 1 pitcher going 5 innings, a pen going 4, and guys moving runners into scoring position. Can't do that if you hit .250 and KO 180 times a year.
Fun to watch yes, build a franchise around no
Great 2 year investment for LA or NY, but he won't sign that type of deal
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d2bets
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-10-05
39995
#21
Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
Cities could jack up nba rents or stop paying for stadiums for a start
I dont understand the repeated "you have to see Harper live" argument
1- he's in RF and is average at best defensive
He's a .250 hitter
He's got pop in his bat, but so does Max Kepler lol
Is Bryce Harper worth 10 Max Keplers?
It's baseball. Harper hasn't won anything, hasn't done anything and still has that shithead attitude in the clubhouse.
The game is about 8 guys in the field not making errors, 1 pitcher going 5 innings, a pen going 4, and guys moving runners into scoring position. Can't do that if you hit .250 and KO 180 times a year.
Fun to watch yes, build a franchise around no
Great 2 year investment for LA or NY, but he won't sign that type of deal
He was a .250 hitter last season, but career is .280, so it's more likely that is what he is. And almost .400 OBP and .900+ OPS. And he's 26 years old. And he's never K'd 180 times. 120-130 is his typical. He's better than what you're giving him credit for, but I get the argument that you can't pay him 400 million if that means not being able to fill the roster with talent. Pitching is non-negotiable.
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Stallion
SBR MVP
03-21-10
3617
#22
These 2 guys should take shorter term deals, or they are never going to get signed.
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Joey Vigs
SBR MVP
06-10-18
1425
#23
Harper is a 15 million a year player. I applaud the owners for sticking it to these 2. 400 mill for a guy who admits he doesn’t hustleBoras is taking a huge L here. No one is giving either one ten years at that money, or at any money. Might as well retire. Hope he doesn’t hold his breath waiting.
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#24
GM's have figured out that no matter how good someone is, he can only take the team so far; it's not like hoops where one guy can take a team to the playoffs. In the salary cap era, there's a de facto salary ceiling unless you want to go cheap everywhere else and only win 65-70 games.
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slayer14
SBR Posting Legend
08-12-13
22010
#25
Is Harper gonna admit defeat
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MinnesotaFats
SBR Posting Legend
12-18-10
14758
#26
Well he still has 10yr/300m at Wash. Not really a defeat... but yeah, he's going to have to bite the bullet
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Joey Vigs
SBR MVP
06-10-18
1425
#27
Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
Well he still has 10yr/300m at Wash. Not really a defeat... but yeah, he's going to have to bite the bullet
If I’m Washington that offer is off the table.
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cincinnatikid513
SBR Aristocracy
11-23-17
45360
#28
Originally posted by Joey Vigs
If I’m Washington that offer is off the table.
it is off the table for sure, washington is moving forward without harper
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#29
Fukk the players. NBA sellout league led by that river rat