I have court today

[RangeFinder]

The docu sign documents should have a time stamp somewhere when they were completed. If not your fraud defense has a fighting chance

If the docu sign documents don't have at least one page that identifies you, your address, your personal information and the note itself with a full signature (name spelled out, even if it is electrically done) then your fraud case improves to a coin toss

If you can prove, by way of phone records, you were called away for this emergency and those phone records show you have left say, 30 mins or an hr before the document was signed (again, time stamp important here) then you have 3 viable proofs of fraud and 3 is key to defense!

I nominate this guy for doggie's defense. What's your retainer fee?

[firedawg]

Any court order to appear usually explains to you that you should/could have legal representation.

I'd ask for a continuance to get yourself an attorney.

The plaintiffs are not coming there to settle--- they are getting 150+/hr to bury you to the wall, and they wouldn't be there if they didn't have your signature (or someone signing for you).

GET AN ATTORNEY.

Good point
I don't think they will show
We will see

[RangeFinder]

Any court order to appear usually explains to you that you should/could have legal representation.

I'd ask for a continuance to get yourself an attorney.

The plaintiffs are not coming there to settle--- they are getting 150+/hr to bury you to the wall, and they wouldn't be there if they didn't have your signature (or someone signing for you).

GET AN ATTORNEY.

[RudyRuetigger]

maybe we can all contribute points to dawgy, get sbr to put a lawyer in the store...donk will show up

[Booya711]

maybe we can all contribute points to dawgy, get sbr to put a lawyer in the store...donk will show up

Donk woukd take care of it easy...guy has helped me out with good advice

[Big Bear]

whatever you do

don't let them get away with it

don't get bullied

be tough

if you need to dish out street justice because the court doesn't give you justice

I think we all expect you to do that for yourself and your son

LMAO

you sound like Tony Soprano

[RudyRuetigger]

Donk woukd take care of it easy...guy has helped me out with good advice

someone get donk out of court to help here

[TheMoneyShot]

[firedawg]

Where is Donkey?
I have 3 hours till court

[d2bets]

Where is Donkey?
I have 3 hours till court

I gave you all you need:

JUDGE, I DIDN'T SIGN ON THAT LINE; I DON'T OWE A DIME.

[Ebumdude]

Good luck Dawg. Stay strong brother. Court is a little intimidating....don’t let them bully you and have plenty of patience. Speak clearly and confident.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Dawg I’d immediately dispute this with the credit reporting agencies. You can’t go through life with bad credit. Check out freeannualcreditreport.com and immediately dispute this shit.

If you see things going bad today ask for a continuance

[Matt17]

Sbr lawyers chime in

Long story short
About a year ago I went to co sign on an automobile for my oldest son (against my better judgement)
I did provide my social at beginning of deal
Half way through the process I was called into work for an emergency
I NEVER signed for the loan
My son got a car
I later asked him how he got the vehicle and he said they did the deal with him only

5 months later he totals the car
Turns out he did not purchase gap insurance which I would of never allowed
So I get certified mail 3 months ago from an attorney coming after me as well
I had provided signatures, a police affidavit, and my statement to the loan company explaining I did not sign
So today I go to court over this disaster
Am I liable even though I did not sign?
Does not seem right to me


Thanks

No you are not liable if you didn't sign.

[RudyRuetigger]

I gave you all you need:

JUDGE, I DIDN'T SIGN ON THAT LINE; I DON'T OWE A DIME.

but why are they suing him then?

his son might end up in legal trouble if he signed it for dawgy....meaning a felony and jail

or not?

[firedawg]

but why are they suing him then?

his son might end up in legal trouble if he signed it for dawgy....meaning a felony and jail

or not?

He said he didn't
This sucks

[RudyRuetigger]

He said he didn't
This sucks

is he going to court too?

you need to tell him the severity of this shit and he needs to tell you straight up before you both get fukked in court

you know how our legal system works bro, its fukked up and they want to screw you


best to do what the one guy said and ask for a continuance

[firedawg]

Dawg I’d immediately dispute this with the credit reporting agencies. You can’t go through life with bad credit. Check out freeannualcreditreport.com and immediately dispute this shit.

If you see things going bad today ask for a continuance

I disputed it
It's still on there
That's why I am going to court
Plus these fukks could garnish my wages if my kid stops paying

[RudyRuetigger]

though, an attorney is going to set you back a bit

really depends what the car is worth and how much they are suing i would assume

[firedawg]

though, an attorney is going to set you back a bit

really depends what the car is worth and how much they are suing i would assume

It's only a 4K loss after he totaled it
It's the principle
I didn't co sign

[RudyRuetigger]

It's only a 4K loss after he totaled it
It's the principle
I didn't co sign

someone should check in with what an attorney costs for this

while it is the principle, you dont want to pay 3k for an attorney to win 100% and be down 3k


while it is 50/50 you do it on your own for free...meaning a 2k loss overall (even though itll be 4k or 0)




if its 50/50 and a lawyer only costs 1k, then should get a lawyer

[RudyRuetigger]

philly is right about your credit rating though

[shocka1212]

as long as you didn't sign or as long as theres no email directly coming from you with that E-signiature you should be fine.

[scot4]

I would worry about your son. he needs to honestly say what happened. you didn't sign only one left is ur son I don't care what he says that's who they will go after next. he needs to come clean that loan didn't just magically appear without ur help.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Dawg does your union offer legal help

[firedawg]

Dawg does your union offer legal help

Probably
I'll check

[firedawg]

My son is paying them
I am just worried if he were to stop
His track record is 50/50 in this type situation

[PaperTrail07]

Could be a tough situation if the kid signed.....My buddy's mom took him for 30K with ccard in the mail .....he tried to claim fraud and long story short, he would have had to press felony charges on him own mother......he didn't end up doing it and it is what it is today...

Are you 100% positive your son didn't forge your signature at the time you left?

If they don't have an actual document with your signature on it then you should be able to get out of this mess, however, if they do have a doc, even just one, then the case shifts to one of 'human error' and not contract law. They will say that both parties intended to do this deal, you provided information and a signature, and some error in clerical work accounts for the lack of multiple signatures.

Worst case you will have a judgment for the loan less the salvage value of the car, and it'll knock your credit a few points.

[firedawg]

I'm 80% sure the scumbags at the dealership did it

[PaperTrail07]

lol you KNOW that's what happened......they wanted that deal done

I'm 80% sure the scumbags at the dealership did it

[stevek173]

Dawg I’d immediately dispute this with the credit reporting agencies. You can’t go through life with bad credit. Check out freeannualcreditreport.com and immediately dispute this shit.

If you see things going bad today ask for a continuance

Good point, however if he loses in court he will lose the disputes every time.

If he wins, then he can win the disputes.

Curious to see what happens here, interesting situation.

The main think I don't understand is that he is saying he has a son, which would mean that at some point a female had sex with him.

Based on a number of factors I find this to be HIGHLY unbelievable.

WAIT. Is Rudy a woman?

[firedawg]

Good point, however if he loses in court he will lose the disputes every time.

If he wins, then he can win the disputes.

Curious to see what happens here, interesting situation.

The main think I don't understand is that he is saying he has a son, which would mean that at some point a female had sex with him.

Based on a number of factors I find this to be HIGHLY unbelievable.

WAIT. Is Rudy a woman?

Steve
I was Mr Macon in 2005
Look it up

[d2bets]

My son is paying them
I am just worried if he were to stop
His track record is 50/50 in this type situation

If your son is paying and it's not in default, then why would this be in court at all?

[firedawg]

If your son is paying and it's not in default, then why would this be in court at all?

I took it to court
The fukkin Sheriff served me papers at the beginning
Why should I have to worry over this shit
I did not sign

[kidcudi92]

I took it to court
The fukkin Sheriff served me papers at the beginning
Why should I have to worry over this shit
I did not sign

Im confused dawg


Isnt taking it to court making it a much bigger worry

[firedawg]

I've got 40 minutes
Where the fukk is Donkey