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  • Plaza23
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    • 12-29-13
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    #1
    Clemson has a point shaver on their team
    Marquise Reed

    I don't even need to explain what happened. If you had Clemson ML, I can understand you hoping this fuk head gets popped
  • DOM_Toretto
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    • 01-28-13
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    #2
    Originally posted by Plaza23
    Marquise Reed

    I don't even need to explain what happened. If you had Clemson ML, I can understand you hoping this fuk head gets popped
    Sorry man. I missed it. Anyone have a vid or link?
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    • Plaza23
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      #3
      Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
      Sorry man. I missed it. Anyone have a vid or link?
      85% Foul Shooter missed 4 straight in the last 20 seconds. A couple of them weren't even shot straight
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      • DOM_Toretto
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        • 01-28-13
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        #4
        Wowza that’s bad.

        I think Brad Brownell is a dumbass and can’t stand backing him.

        Rough to be a part of that ending tho.
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        • Chi_archie
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          • 07-22-08
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          #5
          Clemson Covered the spread by a few points
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          • funnyb25
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            #6
            They still had to drill a 3 at the buzzer. Those are not guaranteed.
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            • Thrilla
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              #7
              I was on Clemson ml
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              • A Quant
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                #8
                Clemson did get the cover though, and Reed was their leading scorer with 19.

                I think he just choked.
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                • Chi_archie
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by funnyb25
                  They still had to drill a 3 at the buzzer. Those are not guaranteed.
                  Originally posted by A Quant
                  Clemson did get the cover though, and Reed was their leading scorer with 19.

                  I think he just choked.

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                  • Plaza23
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                    • 12-29-13
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by A Quant
                    Clemson did get the cover though, and Reed was their leading scorer with 19.

                    I think he just choked.
                    He shot 5-17 and missed 4 straight FTs in the final 20 seconds. He was the ACC's leading foul shooter coming into the game at 88%. I don't think I've ever seen a 85+% foul shooter ever miss 4 in a row. If you watched the game (which I did), a couple of those FTs were very suspicious because they were not even shot straight at the basket. Like they came off his hand sideways and weren't even close
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                    • funnyb25
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                      #11
                      Watched the game. Kid just choked. Unfortunate for him and the team.
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                      • ChuckyTheGoat
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by A Quant
                        Clemson did get the cover though, and Reed was their leading scorer with 19.

                        I think he just choked.
                        Yep. Maybe tired. But doesn't size up to pt-shaving.
                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                        • gauchojake
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                          #13
                          How does Reynolds make enough tinfoil for these kooks???
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                          • A Quant
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Plaza23
                            He shot 5-17 and missed 4 straight FTs in the final 20 seconds. He was the ACC's leading foul shooter coming into the game at 88%. I don't think I've ever seen a 85+% foul shooter ever miss 4 in a row. If you watched the game (which I did), a couple of those FTs were very suspicious because they were not even shot straight at the basket. Like they came off his hand sideways and weren't even close
                            I watched.

                            But Clemson covered. And.

                            Reed converted a 3 point play with 2:37 left, AND made a steal and scored with .53 seconds left----- odd way to throw a game.
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                            • WvGambler
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                              • 04-19-10
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                              #15
                              If you think he shaved points you must’ve watched the first 39 minutes with your eyes shut.
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                              • Plaza23
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by WvGambler
                                If you think he shaved points you must’ve watched the first 39 minutes with your eyes shut.
                                I'm not the only one that thinks it. This fukker's getting lit up on his IG page for throwing the game.
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                                • Plaza23
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by A Quant
                                  I watched.

                                  But Clemson covered. And.

                                  Reed converted a 3 point play with 2:37 left, AND made a steal and scored with .53 seconds left----- odd way to throw a game.
                                  With in-play live betting, all you need to do to fix a game is tell a guy to throw it in the last minute especially when you know he's going to have the ball in his hands (being the best foul shooter in the ACC). It really doesn't matter what the spread was before the game, all that matter is he does whatever it takes to shave under a minute left. That's how games are fixed nowadays. Safest way to do it as well.
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                                  • jjgold
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                                    • 07-20-05
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                                    #18
                                    plaza relax

                                    you lost a bet man
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                                    • Joey Vigs
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Plaza23
                                      With in-play live betting, all you need to do to fix a game is tell a guy to throw it in the last minute especially when you know he's going to have the ball in his hands (being the best foul shooter in the ACC). It really doesn't matter what the spread was before the game, all that matter is he does whatever it takes to shave under a minute left. That's how games are fixed nowadays. Safest way to do it as well.
                                      Lol. Live betting has way stricter limits then pre game betting. No one is throwing a game for 500 bucks. Kid choked. Sorry you lost 10 bucks. Get em next time.
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                                      • A Quant
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Plaza23
                                        With in-play live betting, all you need to do to fix a game is tell a guy to throw it in the last minute especially when you know he's going to have the ball in his hands (being the best foul shooter in the ACC). It really doesn't matter what the spread was before the game, all that matter is he does whatever it takes to shave under a minute left. That's how games are fixed nowadays. Safest way to do it as well.
                                        C'mon man-- do you know how many things would have had to happen just to assume Clemson would be in that position with less than a minute remaining?

                                        And then--- you have all the crazy limits of in game wagering.
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                                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Plaza23
                                          Marquise Reed

                                          I don't even need to explain what happened. If you had Clemson ML, I can understand you hoping this fuk head gets popped
                                          Serious allegation here.
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                                          • krk1030
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                                            • 08-13-08
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                                            #22
                                            Anyone see #2 on Clemson right after the buzzer beater?

                                            Is he #2?
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                                            • WvGambler
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                                              • 04-19-10
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Plaza23
                                              I'm not the only one that thinks it. This fukker's getting lit up on his IG page for throwing the game.
                                              Ah yes. The people who go on a kids IG and threaten him because they lost a bet. That’s a group you wanna be associated with.
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                                              • 5mike5
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                                                • 09-21-11
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by WvGambler
                                                If you think he shaved points you must’ve watched the first 39 minutes with your eyes shut.


                                                This guy is halarious

                                                Where u from anyways Wv? Grew up in Charleston
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                                                • WvGambler
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 5mike5


                                                  This guy is halarious

                                                  Where u from anyways Wv? Grew up in Charleston
                                                  Northern Panhandle....up near the fingernail. About an hour from Mo'town
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                                                  • 5mike5
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WvGambler
                                                    Northern Panhandle....up near the fingernail. About an hour from Mo'town
                                                    Opposite end!
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                                                    • WvGambler
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                      Opposite end!
                                                      We're holding that fukker down!
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                                                      • Plaza23
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                                                        • 12-29-13
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by A Quant
                                                        C'mon man-- do you know how many things would have had to happen just to assume Clemson would be in that position with less than a minute remaining?

                                                        And then--- you have all the crazy limits of in game wagering.
                                                        I'm saying it doesn't matter what the score is at that part of the game, only that you make sure the guy shaves at that point. And if you are getting a live line with a minute left, it's going to be near exactly what the score is at that moment. So if Clemson is up 5 points, the line is probably going to be -4.5 or something. So it doesn't take much from a player to shave it and make sure that live line you play hits. And missing 4 straight FTs is rather obvious.

                                                        It could have been NC State up by 14 with 1 minute left, and this fukkhead could have been throwing up garbage making sure his team doesn't score in the final minute. Things like that.

                                                        If I was paying players to fix games, this is exactly how I'd do it. The limits on live betting wouldn't even matter. You could bet quite a bit offshore on multiple accounts.

                                                        Dumbfukk doesn't even shoot his FTs straight at the basket makes it rather obvious. Even the announcers commented on it.

                                                        There's literally nothing special that needs to happen to do this. Just to tell a guy to miss shots or turn the ball over starting with 1 or 2 minutes left, especially when he's going to be in the game and have the ball. Doesn't matter what the score is. Plus, as I said before, this won't draw the attention of the general public because people can say "well they still covered the spread". Yes pre-game spread. Fixing the live spread with a minute left is what happened.

                                                        Men's tennis live betting was shutdown on a few sites (usually low level futures) for fixing certain specific points of matches (since in tennis you can bet point to point, game to game, set to set live).
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                                                        • Plaza23
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by WvGambler
                                                          Ah yes. The people who go on a kids IG and threaten him because they lost a bet. That’s a group you wanna be associated with.
                                                          You think that's bad? I've seen death threats to tennis players on there.
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                                                          • Chi_archie
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                                                            #30
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                                                            • Plaza23
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                                                              • 12-29-13
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by krk1030
                                                              Anyone see #2 on Clemson right after the buzzer beater?

                                                              Is he #2?
                                                              Yep
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                                                              • 5mike5
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                                                                • 09-21-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                                You think that's bad? I've seen death threats to tennis players on there.
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                                                                • vinnykal2323
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                                                                  • 10-04-18
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                                  I'm saying it doesn't matter what the score is at that part of the game, only that you make sure the guy shaves at that point. And if you are getting a live line with a minute left, it's going to be near exactly what the score is at that moment. So if Clemson is up 5 points, the line is probably going to be -4.5 or something. So it doesn't take much from a player to shave it and make sure that live line you play hits. And missing 4 straight FTs is rather obvious.

                                                                  It could have been NC State up by 14 with 1 minute left, and this fukkhead could have been throwing up garbage making sure his team doesn't score in the final minute. Things like that.

                                                                  If I was paying players to fix games, this is exactly how I'd do it. The limits on live betting wouldn't even matter. You could bet quite a bit offshore on multiple accounts.

                                                                  Dumbfukk doesn't even shoot his FTs straight at the basket makes it rather obvious. Even the announcers commented on it.

                                                                  There's literally nothing special that needs to happen to do this. Just to tell a guy to miss shots or turn the ball over starting with 1 or 2 minutes left, especially when he's going to be in the game and have the ball. Doesn't matter what the score is. Plus, as I said before, this won't draw the attention of the general public because people can say "well they still covered the spread". Yes pre-game spread. Fixing the live spread with a minute left is what happened.

                                                                  Men's tennis live betting was shutdown on a few sites (usually low level futures) for fixing certain specific points of matches (since in tennis you can bet point to point, game to game, set to set live).
                                                                  theres limits on live action Plaza, but lets just say him and someone else wanted to throw an ncaa D1 bball game for $500. Did his bookie from the upper deck use sign language at the 3 minute mark saying, "alright, now"?
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                                                                  • Plaza23
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by vinnykal2323
                                                                    theres limits on live action Plaza, but lets just say him and someone else wanted to throw an ncaa D1 bball game for $500. Did his bookie from the upper deck use sign language at the 3 minute mark saying, "alright, now"?
                                                                    My live betting limits at Bovada are $10,000 on point spreads. And you realize with live bets you can bet it multiple times even if there's a limit? Limit ain't even an issue.

                                                                    You're making this sound too complicated. It's rather easy to tell this guy to start turning the ball over, or missing FTs, or jacking 3s that have no chance to go in with 2 minutes left or under. Or even a minute left, doesn't matter. I'm going to pretend i'm the fixer "Ok Marquis...i don't care what the score is. Just what the clock is. When the clock hits 1:30 and you got the ball, you make sure your team does not score or you commit some fouls to help the other team score. Whether that's you missing FTs, or you turning the ball over, or you jacking up shots that have no chance to go in, you make sure the margin decreases when the clock hits a specific time till the end of the game.
                                                                    Facts are he was 9/10 from the line up to that point. He went 0-4. At least 2 of those shots were not even shot directly straight at the basket, of which even the announcers commented on.


                                                                    The evidence to me says he did this on purpose. I"ve watched a billion basketball games in my life. When you shoot 85 at the line, and you miss to the side (even 1 point) would be suspicious. 4 in a row....lol yeah ok. There's alot of variables involved with fixing an entire basketball game. That is difficult. Fixing the last minute of a game...not hard.
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                                                                    • pavyracer
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      No one ever missed 4 FT's at the end of game. This guy should be arrested and put to jail for missing FT's.
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