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  • Easy-Rider 66
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    #1
    Mahomes: It's not his time Just yet
    While I think Mahommes will lead the Chiefs to Superbowl in next year or two, I do not believe this is the year. I understand KC has home field, but a suspect D and the QB's he facing lead me to think this is not the year. He will have to settle for MVP, and look forward to next year. What say you?
  • SEAHAWKHARRY
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    #2
    I think he beats indy but Pat's or chargers idk. The Superbowl winner I believe comes from the NFC again this year.
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    • Easy-Rider 66
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      #3
      Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
      I think he beats indy but Pat's or chargers idk. The Superbowl winner I believe comes from the NFC again this year.
      Yeah Playing INDY + the number. KC Might win, but next round is even more interesting. Against The 8 time SB QB or the old vet who has never been.
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      • DavieVegas
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        • 12-02-11
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        #4
        Colts have played NOBODY this year. Easy to look great against garbage teams. Chiefs win this game but colts probably will cover because KC defense is that bad
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        • odog11
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          #5
          Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
          I think he beats indy but Pat's or chargers idk. The Superbowl winner I believe comes from the NFC again this year.
          I'll take Indy's or Charger's chance over Pat's in KC. Pat's only chance is for Indy to win this week.
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          • Easy-Rider 66
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            #6
            Originally posted by DavieVegas
            Colts have played NOBODY this year. Easy to look great against garbage teams. Chiefs win this game but colts probably will cover because KC defense is that bad
            Yeah relatively weak slate, but sometimes that can give a team confidence. Think it will be close so taking the 5.
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            • DavieVegas
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              • 12-02-11
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              #7
              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
              Yeah relatively weak slate, but sometimes that can give a team confidence. Think it will be close so taking the 5.
              Dogs have been covering at a huge % so that would be the bet to make imo as well.
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              • funnyb25
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                #8
                Agreed. No Chiefs this year.
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                • ikid2groove415
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DavieVegas
                  Colts have played NOBODY this year. Easy to look great against garbage teams. Chiefs win this game but colts probably will cover because KC defense is that bad
                  Colts are legit man - don’t know why you keep bringing up teams they play - this is the first time in luck career that he’s play behind a great O-line - lookout - Colts are real and will be a super bowl contender the next few years
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                  • thomorino
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                    #10
                    Everyone forgot the Chiefs were without question the best team in the AFC most of the year and they will be healthy coming out of the bye. People who think the Chiefs defense isn't good enough to get to a super bowl are living in the past, Chiefs defense is built to play with the lead, if Watkins and Hill are healthy the offense should be close to what it was at the beginning of the year even without Hunt.
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                    • ikid2groove415
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                      #11
                      Maholmes only need 2 win two more home games to reach the super bowl - with hunt I would say done deal - without hunt its 50/50
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                      • thomorino
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                        Colts are legit man - don’t know why you keep bringing up teams they play - this is the first time in luck career that he’s play behind a great O-line - lookout - Colts are real and will be a super bowl contender the next few years
                        I don't think Luck is elite, he throw 2-3 passes a game that should be intercepted and almost never throws deep.
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                        • funnyb25
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                          #13
                          Luck is tremendous. Finally healthy.
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                          • ikid2groove415
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by thomorino
                            I don't think Luck is elite, he throw 2-3 passes a game that should be intercepted and almost never throws deep.
                            Colts would win 2-3 games this year without luck - look how bad they were when he was injured?
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                            • Easy-Rider 66
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                              Colts would win 2-3 games this year without luck - look how bad they were when he was injured?
                              Yeah INDY also greatly improved O Line. If Luck gets the time he should carve up that KC D. Mahomes will do his thing too, but taking the vet here plus the number.
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                              • thomorino
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                Colts would win 2-3 games this year without luck - look how bad they were when he was injured?
                                Look at their schedule, it was a total joke, the best team the played was Dallas, and that was after Dallas won their biggest game of the year in OT.
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                                • DavieVegas
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                  Colts are legit man - don’t know why you keep bringing up teams they play - this is the first time in luck career that he’s play behind a great O-line - lookout - Colts are real and will be a super bowl contender the next few years
                                  The hype is real. Colts are the same team who started 1-5 vs good teams. Same O-line. Texans had no one besides Hopkins and they cant runt he ball and still lost once to them during the season. The wins are vs Bills,Raiders,Miami,Titans,Jags,Giants,R edskins. Only legit win was vs the Cowboys. Public is on the colts as you see the betting line going away from the chiefs. Fade the public and you win betting most the time. But good luck if your betting the colts ML.
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                                  • ikid2groove415
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DavieVegas
                                    The hype is real. Colts are the same team who started 1-5 vs good teams. Same O-line. Texans had no one besides Hopkins and they cant runt he ball and still lost once to them during the season. The wins are vs Bills,Raiders,Miami,Titans,Jags,Giants,R edskins. Only legit win was vs the Cowboys. Public is on the colts as you see the betting line going away from the chiefs. Fade the public and you win betting most the time. But good luck if your betting the colts ML.
                                    That’s just ridiculous- they are not the same 1-5 team - they got better as the season went on - the young O-line finally click
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                                    • DavieVegas
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                      Look at their schedule, it was a total joke, the best team the played was Dallas, and that was after Dallas won their biggest game of the year in OT.
                                      Finally someone sensible instead of non stop hype.
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                                      • House
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                                        • 09-04-11
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                                        #20
                                        Chiefs cover .... Luck gets pressured all game , two turnovers one a strip sack watch . Chiefs -3 first half Chiefs -5 for the game
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                                        • ikid2groove415
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                                          #21
                                          Davie I’m taking the over- not messing with Andy Reid when he has a bye 17-2 record
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                                          • House
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                                            #22
                                            and the Colts have the second softest schedule in the NFL this year . Not to mention they only played 3 teams that were top 10 at sacks and pressures on the QB , Luck and the Colts lost all three of those games ... Chiefs were tied for 1st in sacks and pressures . If you guys are taking the Colts I'd tread lightly . Colts Rams Chargers and Eagles will all be watching the games on TV after this week
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                                            • ikid2groove415
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by thomorino
                                              Look at their schedule, it was a total joke, the best team the played was Dallas, and that was after Dallas won their biggest game of the year in OT.
                                              So the way the dominated the Texans on the road means nothing ??
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                                              • ikid2groove415
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by House
                                                and the Colts have the second softest schedule in the NFL this year . Not to mention they only played 3 teams that were top 10 at sacks and pressures on the QB , Luck and the Colts lost all three of those games ... Chiefs were tied for 1st in sacks and pressures . If you guys are taking the Colts I'd tread lightly . Colts Rams Chargers and Eagles will all be watching the games on TV after this week
                                                Kc defense isn’t touching luck - Colts O-line is 2 good
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                                                • DavieVegas
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                  Kc defense isn’t touching luck - Colts O-line is 2 good
                                                  Multiple turnovers in the colts future because you said that. History suggests the Lucks stats outdoors vs indoors is really BAD. Something like 9 TDS to 14 INTS this year when playing outdoors. Going to be freezing. Possible raining here as well.
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                                                  • shadymcgrady
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                                                    #26
                                                    Teams like KC this year usually come down to the last possession. They can score at will but can get scored at will upon as well

                                                    All of the NFC teams on the other side can easily control pace and make the game winning drive with no time left to spare against this chiefs team
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                                                    • House
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                      Kc defense isn’t touching luck - Colts O-line is 2 good
                                                      I'll be back to tell you I told you so ... Chiefs put more pressure on QBs than 99.999999% of the teams in the NFL ... tied for first actually . and Luck got ate up by the 3 teams he faced that had a top ten pass rush . 0-3 soon to be 0-4
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                                                      • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DavieVegas
                                                        Multiple turnovers in the colts future because you said that. History suggests the Lucks stats outdoors vs indoors is really BAD. Something like 9 TDS to 14 INTS this year when playing outdoors. Going to be freezing. Possible raining here as well.

                                                        If so will play under that number as well. Can see INDY on long sustained drives. Keep Mahomes off the field.
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                                                        • ikid2groove415
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by House
                                                          I'll be back to tell you I told you so ... Chiefs put more pressure on QBs than 99.999999% of the teams in the NFL ... tied for first actually . and Luck got ate up by the 3 teams he faced that had a top ten pass rush . 0-3 soon to be 0-4
                                                          Most of those lost must of been early when they were 1-5?
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                                                          • DavieVegas
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                            Most of those lost must of been early when they were 1-5?
                                                            When the COLTS actually PLAYED good teams yes. You keep saying the 1-5 start doesn't matter but thats when they actually played good teams. Since then, the schedule was vs losing record teams besides houston. You cant disregard the 1-5 start. Same team same O-line. No one was injured on that O-line.

                                                            I am not trying to persuade you to take the chiefs but you keep talking like the colts are some amazing team who has beaten quality teams all year. They have not. That O line has looked good vs sub par teams. It will be tested vs the #1 sack defensive line in the NFL.
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                                                            • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DavieVegas
                                                              When the COLTS actually PLAYED good teams yes. You keep saying the 1-5 start doesn't matter but thats when they actually played good teams. Since then, the schedule was vs losing record teams besides houston. You cant disregard the 1-5 start. Same team same O-line. No one was injured on that O-line.
                                                              Yeah but they did have 2 rookies on that O line. Needed some time to jell. INDY dangerous here. They have gained some confidence. Not saying they will def win but taking the 5.
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                                                              • House
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                Most of those lost must of been early when they were 1-5?
                                                                Those loses weren't because it was early , those loses were vs teams that were top 10 in sacks and pressuring the QB ... They haven't faced a top 10 sack and pressure defense since the first five weeks , soft schedule is very misleading sometimes ...tread lightly . Chiefs roll this week .
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                                                                • DavieVegas
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Keep in mind also in 2015 the colts O-Line only allowed 15 sacks which is better then this years team and they didn't even make the playoffs. That stat is skewed by the teams they faced since the 1-5 start. If you think about it, the colts allowed 75% of those sacks in the first 6 games with the horrible start. Crazy to think about
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                                                                  • KiDBaZkiT
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Keep in mind the trenches arent going to mean shit in this game. Colts get rolled.
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                                                                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                                                      Keep in mind the trenches arent going to mean shit in this game. Colts get rolled.
                                                                      Disagree. Games usually lost/Won in the trenches. I guess you think KC speed overrides that. We shall see.
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