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  • sam9ball
    SBR MVP
    • 07-01-09
    • 4454

    #1
    Sports gambling set to expand across the country


    At least 20 states will look to legalize sports betting in the new year. Yahoo Finance's Julie Hyman, Adam Shapiro, Brian Sozzi and Richard Auxier of the Urban Institute discuss.
  • KiDBaZkiT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-20-09
    • 14962

    #2
    Good. Hopefully slow paying shitty priced offshore goes outta business in the US. Feel so bad for all of you that have to place all of your bets online.
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    • WvGambler
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-19-10
      • 11618

      #3
      It’s already here! I’m full mast! (That means “erect” for you young guys.)
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 52020

        #4
        Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
        Good. Hopefully slow paying shitty priced offshore goes outta business in the US. Feel so bad for all of you that have to place all of your bets online.
        they wont ever go outta business with 100x the options and better odds and no taxes...not to mention too many bonus whores in U.S. lol
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        • KiDBaZkiT
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-20-09
          • 14962

          #5
          Originally posted by 5mike5
          they wont ever go outta business with 100x the options and better odds and no taxes...not to mention too many bonus whores in U.S. lol
          Tf are u talking about taxes? U have any idea how much u have to win in vegas before u have to pay taxes? Sick of hearing about offshores options. I don't need to be able to bet on cricket at 4 a.m. or have access to 150 props that are capped at 250$ max that the winning side is -170. I have all the options for my needs and more at Nevada books. And how dare u say better odds? How dare you !! Offshore lays -115 to -135 ats on the regular.
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          • Brock Landers
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 06-30-08
            • 45359

            #6
            I would NEVER stop playing offshore. Offerings always better
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            • 5mike5
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-21-11
              • 52020

              #7
              Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
              Tf are u talking about taxes? U have any idea how much u have to win in vegas before u have to pay taxes? Sick of hearing about offshores options. I don't need to be able to bet on cricket at 4 a.m. or have access to 150 props that are capped at 250$ max that the winning side is -170. I have all the options for my needs and more at Nevada books. And how dare u say better odds? How dare you !! Offshore lays -115 to -135 ats on the regular.
              Thats great u don't need certain options but i do for my sport. And not prop bets or cricket. Lol

              I would have lost 20% of my profits had i bet with shit vegas odds last season alone. And thats prob on the light side. So yes odds are way better for me compared to vegas or any other state. And its not even close
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              • cincinnatikid513
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-23-17
                • 45360

                #8
                is florida on list
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                • KiDBaZkiT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-20-09
                  • 14962

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 5mike5
                  Thats great u don't but most do

                  I would have lost 20% of my profits had i bet with shit vegas odds last season alone. And thats prob on the light side. So yes odds are shit for me compared to vegas or any other state. And its not even close
                  You are completely ignoring the fact offshore charges juice on pointspreads. Go look up any NFL sunday. -115 and -120 out the ass. Never paid more than -110 on Nevada without buying a hook. That extra 5-10% on every game would cost me a lot more than 20% over a season.
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 52020

                    #10
                    Im betting nascar winners mostly and some matchups only. Different aninal than betting sides in nfl baskets ect. Just making the point offshore caters to that vegas just doesnt come close to. They literally take westgate odds and add 10-20% on top of them. That's why for me states wont ever offer odds i need and can get offshore
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                    • KiDBaZkiT
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-20-09
                      • 14962

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 5mike5
                      Thats great u don't need certain options but i do for my sport. And not prop bets or cricket. Lol

                      I would have lost 20% of my profits had i bet with shit vegas odds last season alone. And thats prob on the light side. So yes odds are way better for me compared to vegas or any other state. And its not even close
                      Get slow payed and tell me how wonderful offshore is. I am so terrifed to run an offshore account up more than 2500$ cuz that is when all the bs starts. Been fukked with countless occasions by costa ricans. Wish it wasnt true man. You think i dont want to sit on my couch and take bong hits and cap the games? Do everything electronically not have to drive somewhere? The your wrong. I do want that. Offshore proved to me on dozens of occasions they do not provide that luxury for winners and really love getting under your skin when they know u cant do SHIT about it.
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                      • firedawg
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 10-08-08
                        • 39219

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                        I would NEVER stop playing offshore. Offerings always better
                        You are banned at 90% off shore for charge backs
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sam9ball
                          https://www.yahoo.com/finance/video/...211959159.html

                          At least 20 states will look to legalize sports betting in the new year. Yahoo Finance's Julie Hyman, Adam Shapiro, Brian Sozzi and Richard Auxier of the Urban Institute discuss.
                          Many of us in the Forum were figuring that we would see more activity here after those midterm elections.

                          Maybe we were right.

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                          • KiDBaZkiT
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-20-09
                            • 14962

                            #14
                            5Mike5 what is your avg Nascar bet size if u dont mind me asking?
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                            • 5mike5
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-21-11
                              • 52020

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                              5Mike5 what is your avg Nascar bet size if u dont mind me asking?
                              Just depends i have no set size. Really dont like saying on forums to be honest. But if im getting around 20% more money offshore on my winnings it really doesnt matter does it?
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                ...I would have lost 20% of my profits had i bet with shit vegas odds last season alone. And thats prob on the light side. So yes odds are way better for me compared to vegas or any other state. And its not even close
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                                • 5mike5
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-21-11
                                  • 52020

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                  Get slow payed and tell me how wonderful offshore is. I am so terrifed to run an offshore account up more than 2500$ cuz that is when all the bs starts. Been fukked with countless occasions by costa ricans. Wish it wasnt true man. You think i dont want to sit on my couch and take bong hits and cap the games? Do everything electronically not have to drive somewhere? The your wrong. I do want that. Offshore proved to me on dozens of occasions they do not provide that luxury for winners and really love getting under your skin when they know u cant do SHIT about it.
                                  I only play at top books. And ive never taken a bonus or used c.c. at books..which helps with no slow pays imo... So i've never really been slow payed offshore in 15 yrs or whatever i've been doing it..Sure plenty have and i've been lucky a few times i got out early

                                  And ur right bong hits while doing my capping is a major help!
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                                  • 5mike5
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-21-11
                                    • 52020

                                    #18
                                    To each is own. Unless US books get a helluva lot better it would make 0 sense for me. But playing offshore makes 0 sense to some too. Just diff circumstances. 99% of my bets are on nascar
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                                    • DJK
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 2424

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 5mike5
                                      To each is own. Unless US books get a helluva lot better it would make 0 sense for me. But playing offshore makes 0 sense to some too. Just diff circumstances. 99% of my bets are on nascar
                                      For one thing, when SugarHouse starts allowing deposit/withdrawl using bank accounts, there is no fee involved and it's supposed to be almost immediate.

                                      Doesn't everyone lose something when getting paid via bitcoins? Every dollar matters.

                                      My bank draft withdrawl from Bovada.lv took 1 freaking month.
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 52020

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DJK
                                        For one thing, when SugarHouse starts allowing deposit/withdrawl using bank accounts, there is no fee involved and it's supposed to be almost immediate.

                                        Doesn't everyone lose something when getting paid via bitcoins? Every dollar matters.

                                        My bank draft withdrawl from Bovada.lv took 1 freaking month.
                                        yes that is true about btc...think i only made a few bucks from BOL via btc once somehow but usually u lose a few bucks, least in my cases but never more than that...

                                        plus im in TN and theres about no chance they will legalize it anytime soon
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                                        • DJK
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 2424

                                          #21
                                          Besides, there is something different about betting with a clerk as to betting on-line. I just seem to make better decisions when betting with a clerk for whatever the reason. When you are holding a wad of $100 bills making a bet, it's somehow different than just clicking on-line.
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                                          • 5mike5
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-21-11
                                            • 52020

                                            #22
                                            plus im currently in TN and they more than likely would be 1 of the last states

                                            and agree notjing like cashing a ticket at the counter..i just dont have that option and still wouldnt unless states catch up to odds on my sport or even come close
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                                            • DJK
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 2424

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 5mike5
                                              plus im currently in TN and they more than likely would be 1 of the last states
                                              You know, a while while back, there was this one guy who was a car salesman from another state who was like the only documented sports bettor to not have lost but won so much every year that he filed his fed income tax with his occupation as sports bettor and paid taxes.

                                              I highly doubt if anyone else in this world paid taxes on his sports gambling winnings.

                                              He moved to Tennessee because where he was from originally, the local ordinance was going to fine him for betting too much and they were going to tax him too. I found the news on the internet and I wanted to track down his where about and find the secret to his success. It was over 15 years ago.

                                              Does any of this ring a bell to you?

                                              Someone posted on the blog back then to the affect that the guy was betting to middle all the time guaranteeing a profit, but I see a flaw with that logic as #1, how in the world do you know ahead that the line would move enough to get the middle. #2, juice in the long run may cause enough losses that it's not really profitable.
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                                              • dante1
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 10-31-05
                                                • 38647

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                                Get slow payed and tell me how wonderful offshore is. I am so terrifed to run an offshore account up more than 2500$ cuz that is when all the bs starts. Been fukked with countless occasions by costa ricans. Wish it wasnt true man. You think i dont want to sit on my couch and take bong hits and cap the games? Do everything electronically not have to drive somewhere? The your wrong. I do want that. Offshore proved to me on dozens of occasions they do not provide that luxury for winners and really love getting under your skin when they know u cant do SHIT about it.
                                                the above is the greatest reason to hope/wish your state takes over gambling. safe, regulated and you know that if you want to toss a few hundred into a poker machine (if available) at least you have a chance of winning if you can play perfect or near perfect poker. I will pay the tax gladly, knowing when I look to get paid I will find it in my checking account in 24 hours or less. No BS, no lies no crap.

                                                and eventually, these state-run shops will compete favorably with offshore. They more than likely will have fairer odds, maybe even better vigs on gimmicks (but that is no guarantee). but grant yourself this fact, it will be legal, it will be fairer, you won't get fcked and every problem will be answered fairly. you won't get jerked off.
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                                                • DJK
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 2424

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dante1
                                                  the above is the greatest reason to hope/wish your state takes over gambling. safe, regulated and you know that if you want to toss a few hundred into a poker machine (if available) at least you have a chance of winning if you can play perfect or near perfect poker. I will pay the tax gladly, knowing when I look to get paid I will find it in my checking account in 24 hours or less. No BS, no lies no crap.

                                                  and eventually, these state-run shops will compete favorably with offshore. They more than likely will have fairer odds, maybe even better vigs on gimmicks (but that is no guarantee). but grant yourself this fact, it will be legal, it will be fairer, you won't get fcked and every problem will be answered fairly. you won't get jerked off.
                                                  SugarHouse had Clemson +5+105 two days before the kick off. You can't get any fairer than that with the juice.
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                                                  • 5918mike
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-16-14
                                                    • 1885

                                                    #26
                                                    I'll keep using the offshore guys. An app with online or phone access for placing wagers would be a must for me to consider a switch if nothing else changed with offshore.
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                                                    • beefcake
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                      • 14029

                                                      #27
                                                      Is NC on the list? Were so fcking backwater here I would be surprised if we ever allow it.Fingers crossed!
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                                                      • Hman
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-04-17
                                                        • 21429

                                                        #28
                                                        Offshore won't be going anywhere.

                                                        However, with serious competition now, they will need to get back to the good old days in offering outstanding bonuses and other perks they used to pride themselves in.
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                                                        • 5918mike
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-16-14
                                                          • 1885

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Hman
                                                          Offshore won't be going anywhere.

                                                          However, with serious competition now, they will need to get back to the good old days in offering outstanding bonuses and other perks they used to pride themselves in.
                                                          That's exactly what I'm hoping for, the competition will be great.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            It’s really going to hurt Las Vegas that’s the main one
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                                                            • SlickFazzer
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-22-08
                                                              • 20209

                                                              #31
                                                              JJ will you consider opening a syndicate with all the extra outs that will be available nationwide?
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #32
                                                                No Slick
                                                                No cash


                                                                Might be a runner
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                                                                • gauchojake
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 09-17-10
                                                                  • 34113

                                                                  #33
                                                                  The reason we should all hope for sports gambling to be legalized in more states is more square money.
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