So.... boxing is fixed lol

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  • Thor4140
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-09-08
    • 22296

    #36
    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
    I bet on Fury + Decision and was a bit annoyed to lose my bets but on the other hand, the referee could have easily stopped it when Wilder knocked Fury down in the 12th. It was incredible that he was able to get up after that and he looked to be done after Wilder connected with that Left Hook.
    Not sure why u were so shocked he got back up. I saw the undertaker do that a million times when i thought he was out cold.
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    • jtoler
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-17-13
      • 30967

      #37
      Originally posted by MiDNiTe
      Read it or watch it wilder did nothing besides the knock down rounds i had fury by 2 but there seems to be 20 news outlet around the world had fury the winner can't find one for wilder mayweather had 7 rounds to 0 for fury first seven wilder showed life in the 9th and 12th did nothing but get smacked in the head rest of fight
      dont forget the 3 other criteria for scoring rounds. effective aggressiveness, defense, and ring generalship. with relatively few punches landed between both guys some judges put quite a bit into the guy coming forward backing the other guy up not me really just depends. I do remember seeing wilder missing a lot he really is still green with how to box and set up punches other than the normal 1-2 much of the time. saw him first during olympics like maybe 8-10 years ago he was very green then hadnt been boxing long took it up very late and was able to get bronze because he's just a huge physical specimen with long arms and power of course.
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      • jtoler
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        • 12-17-13
        • 30967

        #38
        Originally posted by Thor4140
        Not sure why u were so shocked he got back up. I saw the undertaker do that a million times when i thought he was out cold.
        lol
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        • Thor4140
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-09-08
          • 22296

          #39
          Originally posted by Venom72
          I understand the draw, those two knockdowns fukked fury imo, but the judge that had it 115-111 for wilder was full of shit
          first five rounds he gave 4 to Wilder lol.
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          • Pinocchio
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-26-11
            • 569

            #40
            Originally posted by Thor4140
            first five rounds he gave 4 to Wilder lol.
            That's because he only found out which boxer is Wilder and which is Fury at the end of the fourth round. These judges are morons, and look at one of the other judges' scorecard. Guy can't do elementary addition and properly sum up the total points he himself scored for Wilder. Unreal, at this level of boxing. Might as well just bring chimpanzees in.
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            • NardVa
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-02-07
              • 8325

              #41
              This is why judges should be forced to show or lock their cards in after each round. That way the scores are transparent and the judges can't collaborate at the end to get a draw.
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              • shocka1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-06-12
                • 16788

                #42
                a little late to the party fam.
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                • keely85
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-04-15
                  • 4296

                  #43
                  They should shrink the size of the ring each round. So they are forced to KO each other
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                  • shocka1212
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-06-12
                    • 16788

                    #44
                    Originally posted by keely85
                    They should shrink the size of the ring each round. So they are forced to KO each other
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                    • DavidGoliath5003
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-20-18
                      • 4100

                      #45
                      Its always been fixed... my first ever boxing wager was Bradley vs Paciao.... i thought it was dead money for sure +500 on bradley won. Paciao dominated
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                      • PaperTrail07
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-29-08
                        • 20423

                        #46
                        everyone FINALLY tunes in and they bring that BS LOL....I remember why I stopped watching LOL.......end thread
                        Originally posted by reigle9
                        first ive seen since hell idk, prob a paq in his prime fight

                        it was fun, big goofy white guy does stupid shit and gets dropped

                        both are just terrible and wouldnt be top 20 in the mid 90s

                        black guy looks how a power forward should look but punches like a girl most of the time...when he gets his feet under him and lines one up, it's pretty hc
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                        • PaperTrail07
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-29-08
                          • 20423

                          #47
                          BANG there you have it.....
                          Originally posted by NardVa
                          This is why judges should be forced to show or lock their cards in after each round. That way the scores are transparent and the judges can't collaborate at the end to get a draw.
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                          • magpie878
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-04-18
                            • 1432

                            #48
                            Small potatoes in the scheme of things here, but I prebet Wilder on Fanduel (better odds than DraftKings)... didn't watch, but my buddy in Vegas was watching and constantly texting how much better Fury was doing. Live betting had Fury at around -800 late, if not more.

                            I don't have a lot on that FanDuel account, but once it got later and seemed like nothing was going to change, I hedged what I could and took Fury by points/decision. Wilder was voided and that Fury "hedge" lost.

                            On the small bright side, after the 9th, I took the fight to go over 10.5 rounds on DK, and early on, took + odds that it would go the distance. Small consolation.

                            I'm still shocked it was judged that way, but knowing the crooked stuff, I shouldn't have been surprised to begin with.
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                            • PaperTrail07
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-29-08
                              • 20423

                              #49
                              I will say....the confidence of the announcers made me thing THIS TIME it would not be rigged....LOL.....I was ready for a good laugh the minute they read split LOL...
                              Originally posted by magpie878
                              Small potatoes in the scheme of things here, but I prebet Wilder on Fanduel (better odds than DraftKings)... didn't watch, but my buddy in Vegas was watching and constantly texting how much better Fury was doing. Live betting had Fury at around -800 late, if not more.

                              I don't have a lot on that FanDuel account, but once it got later and seemed like nothing was going to change, I hedged what I could and took Fury by points/decision. Wilder was voided and that Fury "hedge" lost.

                              On the small bright side, after the 9th, I took the fight to go over 10.5 rounds on DK, and early on, took + odds that it would go the distance. Small consolation.

                              I'm still shocked it was judged that way, but knowing the crooked stuff, I shouldn't have been surprised to begin with.
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                              • jizay
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-07-09
                                • 975

                                #50
                                Interesting voting problem in this match:

                                Boxing rules are we count each judge's total scores through 12 and award to whoever wins majority of judges.

                                But what if we counted by round across judges? For example, Fury wins round 2 10-9 because 2 judges gave it to him 10-9. Wilder wins round 9 10-8. Do that and add up all the rounds. Fury wins by that rule. I don't see how 1 rule is superior to the other.
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                                • PaperTrail07
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-29-08
                                  • 20423

                                  #51
                                  it would eliminate the idiot for the most part ....go 1 more round then as well lol
                                  Originally posted by jizay
                                  Interesting voting problem in this match:

                                  Boxing rules are we count each judge's total scores through 12 and award to whoever wins majority of judges.

                                  But what if we counted by round across judges? For example, Fury wins round 2 10-9 because 2 judges gave it to him 10-9. Wilder wins round 9 10-8. Do that and add up all the rounds. Fury wins by that rule. I don't see how 1 rule is superior to the other.
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                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 13024

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by keely85
                                    They should shrink the size of the ring each round. So they are forced to KO each other
                                    They had a few events like that at Mandalay Bay 3-4 years ago. The boxers fought in a very small circle and if you stepped out you got points deducted I believe. It was ok but the fighters weren't any good so the event suffered.

                                    I thought Fury did enough to get the narrow decision but the 2 knockdowns were the difference to 2 of the judges.

                                    Biggest loser in the fight was Anthony Joshua who will have to wait to try and unify belts.
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                                    • JC2008
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-27-08
                                      • 2258

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                      They had a few events like that at Mandalay Bay 3-4 years ago. The boxers fought in a very small circle and if you stepped out you got points deducted I believe. It was ok but the fighters weren't any good so the event suffered.

                                      I thought Fury did enough to get the narrow decision but the 2 knockdowns were the difference to 2 of the judges.

                                      Biggest loser in the fight was Anthony Joshua who will have to wait to try and unify belts.
                                      BKB lol.
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                                      • Venom72
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-05-16
                                        • 2041

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by DavidGoliath5003
                                        Its always been fixed... my first ever boxing wager was Bradley vs Paciao.... i thought it was dead money for sure +500 on bradley won. Paciao dominated
                                        Lol my god, literally my worst gambling loss ever, had $1000 on pac and damn near had a heart attack when they gave it to bradley..i was pissed for months about that shit, i remember also it was so bad that i think it was william hill gave a refund to ppl that bet on pac, have barely bet on boxing since even tho i love it
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                                        • wikkidinsane
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-30-10
                                          • 13799

                                          #55
                                          Hetleast knocked down fury twice. Those were 10-8 rds for him. Some of the earlier rds were toss ups
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