I’m sorry Manning is not a Hall of Famer

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  • DiggityDaggityDo
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    • 11-30-08
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    #71
    Originally posted by 7deuceoff$uit
    He would be the first multi superbowl winning QB to not go in.
    Phil Simms
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    • DiggityDaggityDo
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      • 11-30-08
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      #72
      Originally posted by 7deuceoff$uit
      He would be the first multi superbowl winning QB to not go in.
      Jim Plunkett
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      • Darkside Magick
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        • 05-28-10
        • 12638

        #73
        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
        Phil Simms
        Phil simms didn't start in one of them.. He was hurt

        The only Qb to start and win 2SB is Jim Plunkett not in HOF
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        • BigOrange
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-13-09
          • 6745

          #74
          He is a lock to go in just because he kept those cheating fukks from New England from having a perfect season.

          That's enough for me to put him in. He should have retired 2 years ago though.
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          • DiggityDaggityDo
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            • 11-30-08
            • 81450

            #75
            Originally posted by Darkside Magick
            Phil simms didn't start in one of them.. He was hurt

            The only Qb to start and win 2SB is Jim Plunkett not in HOF
            Ok thanks.
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            • Cuse0323
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              • 12-09-09
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              #76
              Lot of haters in the house. He’s an absolute lock for the Hall. And he deserves it. Got me in here sticking up for a guy I can’t stand to watch.
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              • Darkside Magick
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                • 05-28-10
                • 12638

                #77
                Eli going in.. The Writers and Reporters who vote going to see that he is in.. The question would be is he a first ballot inductee?
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                • d2bets
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                  • 08-10-05
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Cuse0323
                  Lot of haters in the house. He’s an absolute lock for the Hall. And he deserves it. Got me in here sticking up for a guy I can’t stand to watch.
                  Why? Is he one of the top 5 at his position during his career?
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                  • maggiethebestdog
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-21-13
                    • 6700

                    #79
                    Originally posted by d2bets
                    Why? Is he one of the top 5 at his position during his career?
                    Lol
                    WTF are you talking about??
                    So only 5 players from each position get in??
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                    • jtoler
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                      • 12-17-13
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                      #80
                      gotten chilly this week
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                      • d2bets
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                        • 08-10-05
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                        Lol
                        WTF are you talking about??
                        So only 5 players from each position get in??
                        Not all-time, but during a 10-15 year era, sure.

                        OK< maybe that's slightly too restrictive. Maybe it's more like 7-8. But you get the idea. Eli not even top 10.
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                        • d2bets
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                          #82
                          There are 26 QB's in who played roughly 1950-2000:

                          Troy Aikman 1989-2000
                          George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975
                          Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983
                          Len Dawson 1957-1975
                          John Elway 1983-1998
                          Brett Favre 1991-2010
                          Dan Fouts 1973-1987
                          Otto Graham 1946-1955
                          Bob Griese 1967-1980
                          Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974
                          Jim Kelly 1986-1996
                          Bobby Layne 1948-1962
                          Dan Marino 1983-1999
                          Joe Montana 1979-1994
                          Warren Moon 1984-2000
                          Joe Namath 1965-1977
                          Ken Stabler 1970-1984
                          Bart Starr 1956-1971
                          Roger Staubach 1969-1979
                          Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978
                          Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964
                          Johnny Unitas 1956-1973
                          Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960
                          Kurt Warner 1998-2009
                          Bob Waterfield 1945-1952
                          Steve Young 1985-1999


                          How the hell does Eli belong in this list?
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                          • maggiethebestdog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-21-13
                            • 6700

                            #83
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            Not all-time, but during a 10-15 year era, sure.
                            I didn't know that was the criteria

                            So it would be Brady, Brees, Ben, Rodgers and who is no 5???
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                            • d2bets
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                              I didn't know that was the criteria

                              So it would be Brady, Brees, Ben, Rodgers and who is no 5???
                              The other Manning is in there.
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                              • maggiethebestdog
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-21-13
                                • 6700

                                #85
                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                There are 26 QB's in who played roughly 1950-2000:

                                Troy Aikman 1989-2000
                                George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975
                                Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983
                                Len Dawson 1957-1975
                                John Elway 1983-1998
                                Brett Favre 1991-2010
                                Dan Fouts 1973-1987
                                Otto Graham 1946-1955
                                Bob Griese 1967-1980
                                Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974
                                Jim Kelly 1986-1996
                                Bobby Layne 1948-1962
                                Dan Marino 1983-1999
                                Joe Montana 1979-1994
                                Warren Moon 1984-2000
                                Joe Namath 1965-1977
                                Ken Stabler 1970-1984
                                Bart Starr 1956-1971
                                Roger Staubach 1969-1979
                                Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978
                                Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964
                                Johnny Unitas 1956-1973
                                Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960
                                Kurt Warner 1998-2009
                                Bob Waterfield 1945-1952
                                Steve Young 1985-1999


                                How the hell does Eli belong in this list?
                                Lol
                                You just said it was the best 5 over their 10-15 career
                                So then you makes a list from a 50 yr time that he wasn't even in the league??

                                My God, get some help
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                  Lol
                                  You just said it was the best 5 over their 10-15 career
                                  So then you makes a list from a 50 yr time that he wasn't even in the league??

                                  My God, get some help
                                  No shit, that wasn't my point. Obviously guys in his era are not eligible yet. Just showing who's in now.
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                                  • maggiethebestdog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-21-13
                                    • 6700

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                    The other Manning is in there.
                                    Ok
                                    So Eli Manning, Rivers and Warner are out??
                                    Who else is out??
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                                    • maggiethebestdog
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-21-13
                                      • 6700

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      No shit, that wasn't my point. Obviously guys in his era are not eligible yet. Just showing who's in now.
                                      Lol
                                      The last sentence of your post is "how the hell does Eli belong in this list"

                                      Are you just pulling my leg??
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                                      • d2bets
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                                        • 08-10-05
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                        Lol
                                        The last sentence of your post is "how the hell does Eli belong in this list"

                                        Are you just pulling my leg??
                                        Yeah, a list of hall of fame qb's. wtf
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                                        • maggiethebestdog
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-21-13
                                          • 6700

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                          Yeah, a list of hall of fame qb's. wtf
                                          So what is the criteria??
                                          I'm confused
                                          At first it was that you must be in the top 5 at your position over a 10-15.yr time period near your career

                                          Then it is simply throwing up a list of everyone since 1950 who is in the Hall and asking if Eli belongs on the list

                                          I have no idea what your point is other than you don't think Eli shouldn't be in the Hall

                                          Maybe you should leave it at that and not confuse yourself by trying to explain it
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                                          • packerd_00
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                                            • 05-22-13
                                            • 17811

                                            #91
                                            Don't follow this guys career stats,where does Eli rank in TD Passes and yards.

                                            Can't just put him in based on those two SB wins.
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                                            • kingdom
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                                              • 07-25-10
                                              • 10099

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                              There are 26 QB's in who played roughly 1950-2000:

                                              Troy Aikman 1989-2000
                                              George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975
                                              Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983
                                              Len Dawson 1957-1975
                                              John Elway 1983-1998
                                              Brett Favre 1991-2010
                                              Dan Fouts 1973-1987
                                              Otto Graham 1946-1955
                                              Bob Griese 1967-1980
                                              Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974
                                              Jim Kelly 1986-1996
                                              Bobby Layne 1948-1962
                                              Dan Marino 1983-1999
                                              Joe Montana 1979-1994
                                              Warren Moon 1984-2000
                                              Joe Namath 1965-1977
                                              Ken Stabler 1970-1984
                                              Bart Starr 1956-1971
                                              Roger Staubach 1969-1979
                                              Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978
                                              Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964
                                              Johnny Unitas 1956-1973
                                              Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960
                                              Kurt Warner 1998-2009
                                              Bob Waterfield 1945-1952
                                              Steve Young 1985-1999


                                              How the hell does Eli belong in this list?
                                              Bob Waterfield way overrated lol. and he only played 8 years....and i truly have no idea who that guy is lol
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                                              • RocketFan
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                                                • 01-15-14
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                                                #93
                                                no way
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                                                • packerd_00
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                                                  • 05-22-13
                                                  • 17811

                                                  #94
                                                  So if were basing this on SB wins,say Flacco wins anoither one are people going to say he deserves to get in,I dont see why not if Eli does.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83686

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by RocketFan
                                                    no way
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                                                    • packerd_00
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                                                      • 05-22-13
                                                      • 17811

                                                      #96
                                                      Just looking at his career td and passing yds,his numbers are pretty good compared to some of the name QB's.Just the idea of Eli as a HOF QB,just doesnt sound right though.
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                                                      • eidolon
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                                                        • 01-02-08
                                                        • 9531

                                                        #97
                                                        Hall of fame is a joke now. They let Ken Stabler in a couple of years ago at QB. He had more interceptions than TDs.
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                                                        • pavyracer
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                                                          • 04-12-07
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                                                          #98
                                                          Eli had 2 good years and 10 bad years. And the Superbowls were won by the defense and not from QB play.
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                                                          • maggiethebestdog
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-21-13
                                                            • 6700

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            Eli had 2 good years and 10 bad years. And the Superbowls were won by the defense and not from QB play.
                                                            In 2007 he had a very good playoff performance but certainly had a ton of help

                                                            In 2011 he carried the team in the playoffs
                                                            Averaged over 300 yds a game, 65% completions, and 9 td to 1 int

                                                            They needed him for both SB wins
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                                                            • 2daBank
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                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                              Just looking at his career td and passing yds,his numbers are pretty good compared to some of the name QB's.Just the idea of Eli as a HOF QB,just doesnt sound right though.
                                                              Numbers mean nothing these days, far easier to put up gaudy stats now days than it was when teams were allowed to play defense.
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                                                              • thechaoz
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                                                                • 10-23-09
                                                                • 12154

                                                                #101
                                                                Wee Why Wanning
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                                                                • 19th Hole
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                                                                  • 03-22-09
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Unfortunately, Eli will be an enshrined HOFer.
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                                                                  • d2bets
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                                                                    • 08-10-05
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                    Numbers mean nothing these days, far easier to put up gaudy stats now days than it was when teams were allowed to play defense.
                                                                    Exactly why he's even worse than most think. What is the avg QB rating in the last 15 years. Is it more than his 83 avg? Probably close.
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                                                                    • packerd_00
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                                                                      • 05-22-13
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                      Numbers mean nothing these days, far easier to put up gaudy stats now days than it was when teams were allowed to play defense.
                                                                      Yeah werent we debating about that other day,inregards to Drew Brees.
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