So I bet NC State season wins total under...

[dlowilly]

and much to my delight they cancelled the game earlier this year with WVU

NCSU is undefeated so far but if they don't play the full 12 games the bet is cancelled. Happened to me last year with two bets which I would have won regardless of the cancelled game so I felt like this is some justice.

Then I find out NC State added a game hosting East Carolina. Is this common practice, adding a game with a new opponent? Anyone know of a ruling on this? Yeah they're playing 12 games but the schedule was changed and there's a big difference between hosting WVU and ECU.

[jjgold]

That’s a strange scenario I think no bet

[thetrinity]

did the bet say must play 12 games for action?

very strange scenario

[dlowilly]

It's on a local PPH site

Pretty sure it said teams must play 12 games for action like with NHL season points it said must play 82 games for action.

Just can't see how there should be action here though, the whole basis of the bet is can they beat the teams on their schedule. How often does an NCAAF team do this with their schedule? I expect to get screwed

The added game gets cancelled if either team plays in their conference championship but ECU sucks and I don't see NCSU beating Clemson

[daneblazer]

It’s rare. Nebraska added some poor HBC to their schedule

[BigdaddyQH]

What was the number? NC State is 5-0 with three easy games left on the schedule. If they go over the total not counting the East Carolina game you are going to lose.

[SBR Drew]

If the team does not play the original schedule then the bet is NO ACTION. Season wins are made bases on the EXACT season schedule announced.

[daneblazer]

If the team does not play the original schedule then the bet is NO ACTION. Season wins are made bases on the EXACT season schedule announced.

Why don’t they go ahead and push it then instead of waiting to grade it at the end of the year

[dlowilly]

What was the number? NC State is 5-0 with three easy games left on the schedule. If they go over the total not counting the East Carolina game you are going to lose.

I have little doubt that my bet would be a loss especially now that they host ECU

I'm saying last year I had two total wins bets that were winners regardless of another game but were cancelled because they cancelled one game and didn't play 12 games. Now NCSU cancelled one of their games for the same reason as my other two teams last year (weather) but decided to add a game at the end of the season against a scrub team purely for revenue reasons. So their schedule is different than what was bet on originally.

[dlowilly]

If the team does not play the original schedule then the bet is NO ACTION. Season wins are made bases on the EXACT season schedule announced.

Hope ur right, we'll see

Books are notorious for following written rules to a T when it's in their favor, and I don't remember ever seeing anything about a change of schedule (Never even thought of the possibility)

[2daBank]

If the team does not play the original schedule then the bet is NO ACTION. Season wins are made bases on the EXACT season schedule announced.

Makes most sense, certainly wouldn’t be fair considering they went from a tough gm vs WVU to a much more beatable opponent.

[pet2150]

Love the pick. Good luck bro!

[Dakota99]

Even though its a new opponent its based on the number of scheduled games so sadly you are going to get screwed. I have the under on Nebraska and had to confirm with my book to make sure that it would still be valid. Iowa State lost a game that they are making up at the end of the year and VA Tech is most likely going to get another game in......

Also have overs on West Virginia and Central Florida and those will end up being cancelled - they were the road teams for those games so they won't end up doing a makeup game.

Nebraska RSW/Nebraska RSW. Under 7 -165 Game Date: 9/2/2018 Game Time: 10:00 PM - (EST)
	* Event Notes:
	Must play all Regular Season Games for action (Bowls and conference championship games do not count)

[Husker36]

Ya I actually bet the other way.... I had NC State Over 7.5 wins. I contacted my book and here was their response.....

"All regular season games must be played, we must wait until end of regular season to count all games, if indeed 1 game was cancelled and not rescheduled than all wagers will be void"

So I'm like WTF does that mean?? A game was cancelled and a game was rescheduled. So are they going to pay me?? or cancel?

[Dakota99]

My guy said different books will handle all of this differently but for the most part the new opponent and rescheduled game will satisfy their requirement of playing a full schedule.

I'm hoping that if I hit WV and UCF he works something out with me even if they dont pay a full schedule.

I had a buddy who was heavy on Celtics under for the 12/13 season and they cancelled one of the games due to the Marathon Bombing....they were about 10 games under their win total but since they didn't play all 82 games he was screwed.

[jtoler]

lol u guys always looking for a technicality on your losing bets, sorry this will be counted a loser

[SBR Drew]

Want to add here that if say Team A has 12 scheduled games during the reg season and one gets cancelled the whole bet NEEDS to be NO ACTIONED . Why? The season wins total posted was in fact based on the EXACT season schedule(only the 12 original opponents). If ANY of the opponents are changed in any way this can impact the Original season win total.

[Dakota99]

It depends on the sportsbook - last year Indiana had a game cancelled and rescheduled on their bye week vs some horse shit opponent - didn't end up impacting the total but the bet was still valid even with the change of the schedule.

[BigdaddyQH]

Remember, the offshore books can do anything they want and you have no recourse. Locals have that power to a lesser degree. Check with Vegas. I have never had this happened to me so I can not give you a definite answer, but in Vegas, one size fits all. If it is good at Book A, it is good at all of the books.

[Dakota99]

Here is a good article....at South Point the bet would stand but like bigdaddy said - they can do whatever they want. I know my guy is going to pay me on Nebraska and if I was on the losing side of it I would fully expect to pay him

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/10/1/17884532/betting-game-rescheduled-canceled-relocated

[LT Profits]

lol u guys always looking for a technicality on your losing bets, sorry this will be counted a loser

No, he is right. The win total is based on the schedule, if there is a change in the schedule, even if 12 games are played, bet should be voided. Drastic change like East Carolina for West Virginia only magnifies that.

[jtoler]

No, he is right. The win total is based on the schedule, if there is a change in the schedule, even if 12 games are played, bet should be voided. Drastic change like East Carolina for West Virginia only magnifies that.

I agree that it shouldnt count but dealing with the offshores sometimes it just seems like it depends on whatever that particular book decides to do at that moment

[KVB]

It would be a sad new low if a season win Total was not deemed no action with a change in schedule.

If you postpone a game, that's one thing, but to omit a game or even play a different opponent than when the season Totals closed should be NO ACTION.

It's not even the same bet anymore.

[LT Profits]

Here is a good article....at South Point the bet would stand but like bigdaddy said - they can do whatever they want. I know my guy is going to pay me on Nebraska and if I was on the losing side of it I would fully expect to pay him

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...eled-relocated

Figures that the online book (BOL) has the fairest rule.

[LT Profits]

It would be a sad new low if a season win Total was not deemed no action with a change in schedule.

If you postpone a game, that's one thing, but to omit a game or even play a different opponent than when the season Totals closed should be NO ACTION.

It's not even the same bet anymore.

Based on the article linked above, bet would have action at the Nugget even with easier opponent and at South Point where all plays are action regardless once season starts.

[LT Profits]

Hope ur right, we'll see

Books are notorious for following written rules to a T when it's in their favor, and I don't remember ever seeing anything about a change of schedule (Never even thought of the possibility)

Would it hurt to ask the book NOW how it will be handled?

[KVB]

Based on the article linked above, bet would have action at the Nugget even with easier opponent and at South Point where all plays are action regardless once season starts.

Yeah, I walk it back a bit. I started thinking about that, and some houses have been in the past, we've seen this before.

If rules are posted, rules are posted and that's the bet at hand.

Online, though, I remember getting into it with Heritage a long time ago after one of my golfers scratched early in the week, just after I bet them.

All of those bets are action too, even if your guy doesn't start.

[LT Profits]

Yeah, I walk it back a bit. I started thinking about that, and some houses have been in the past, we've seen this before.

If rules are posted, rules are posted and that's the bet at hand.

Online, though, I remember getting into it with Heritage a long time ago after one of my golfers scratched early in the week, just after I bet them.

All of those bets are action too, even if your guy doesn't start.

If it was a "To Win Tournament" bet, that falls under Futures rules where all plays are Action. If it was a head-to-head bet or some other type, should have been refund.

[KVB]

[phinfan27615]

I live in Raleigh how many betpoints are you offering for me to bust the starting qb's kneecap like that ice skating lady did before the olympics? I'm pretty sure I could get a 30 for 30 out of it too

[thetrinity]

if this is with a local who knows how this one will be graded

wonder with how many games get cancelled lately if these places will start saying 11 games played for action

[dlowilly]

Would it hurt to ask the book NOW how it will be handled?

I am going to just wanted to see if anyone had experience with this and/or get opinions

[sweep]

OP cries alot

[ans61201]

Remember, the offshore books can do anything they want and you have no recourse. Locals have that power to a lesser degree. Check with Vegas. I have never had this happened to me so I can not give you a definite answer, but in Vegas, one size fits all. If it is good at Book A, it is good at all of the books.

Definitely not 100% true. Have had different rulings on the same bet more than once between books

[dlowilly]

OP cries alot

Hey Sweep

I thought you were slowrolling me multiple times but realized I was maybe mistaken and you were probably multitabling so I deleted the posts I attacked you, I thought before anyone noticed

So you want to keep up this douchey thing you're doing or grow up?