Is it time to legalize knees and kicks from the bottom in MMA?

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  • dlowilly
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    • 11-09-16
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    #1
    Is it time to legalize knees and kicks from the bottom in MMA?
    Of course there has to be rules in MMA but right now the rules favor a smothering wrestler

    Those of you who might say this post is just because of what happened to McGregor are right. For that matter small joint locks should be allowed from the bottom too. You could tell Khabib knew he made a mistake jumping the cage after the fight and getting into it when not protected by rules of the octagon. Guy is great when running around in a wolfpack or protected by octagon rules.

    It's time to balance the scales and phase out these specialists
  • Kermit
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    #2
    Originally posted by dlowilly
    Of course there has to be rules in MMA but right now the rules favor a smothering wrestler

    Those of you who might say this post is just because of what happened to McGregor are right. For that matter small joint locks should be allowed from the bottom too. You could tell Khabib knew he made a mistake jumping the cage after the fight and getting into it when not protected by rules of the octagon. Guy is great when running around in a wolfpack or protected by octagon rules.

    It's time to balance the scales and phase out these specialists
    The same thing could be said about Conor. How many guys did he have with him when he stormed the bus that Khabib was on? Like 20?

    Rumor has it that Conor apologized to Khabib sometime in or towards the end of the 3rd round for acting like an asshole hoping that Khabib wouldn't deal him any more punishment.
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    • bonzaii
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      #3
      Ready is legal in MMA. Pure MMA doesn't have many rules. UFC doesn't allow it because we live in the century of the pussy.
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      • Kermit
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        #4
        The rules are just fine the way that they are. Matt Hughes was a dominant wrestler until younger and more skilled fighters came along. We don't need any Tom Brady rules in the UFC.
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        • bonzaii
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          #5
          Originally posted by Kermit
          The rules are just fine the way that they are. Matt Hughes was a dominant wrestler until younger and more skilled fighters came along. We don't need any Tom Brady rules in the UFC.
          The UFC already has Tom Brady like rules that protect ju jitsu fighters from being stomped to death on the floor.
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          • kingdom
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            • 07-25-10
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            #6
            Originally posted by dlowilly
            Of course there has to be rules in MMA but right now the rules favor a smothering wrestler

            Those of you who might say this post is just because of what happened to McGregor are right. For that matter small joint locks should be allowed from the bottom too. You could tell Khabib knew he made a mistake jumping the cage after the fight and getting into it when not protected by rules of the octagon. Guy is great when running around in a wolfpack or protected by octagon rules.

            It's time to balance the scales and phase out these specialists
            love to phase you out idiot. what a stupid thread. change rules because of one result you didn't like. there is truly something wrong with you. and you are creating new threads from saturdays fight because you finally found something you may get a response to. you, are the biggest loser. and yes i am buried because i am getting off and not responding. so its fair for you to make that assumption as always lol.
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            • dlowilly
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              • 11-09-16
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              #7
              Originally posted by Kermit
              The same thing could be said about Conor. How many guys did he have with him when he stormed the bus that Khabib was on? Like 20?

              Rumor has it that Conor apologized to Khabib sometime in or towards the end of the 3rd round for acting like an asshole hoping that Khabib wouldn't deal him any more punishment.
              I get that you don't like Conor but that was a retaliatory one time thing. I think it was ridiculous and Conor might be on something or at very least he's a buffoon but Khabib has always run around in his hooded gremlin pack of midgets. Setting that aside you should not be considered the best MMA fighter if you have to complain about things like gloves being held or a knee when you're in side control with your head exposed.
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              • dlowilly
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                #8
                Originally posted by kingdom
                love to phase you out idiot. what a stupid thread. change rules because of one result you didn't like. there is truly something wrong with you. and you are creating new threads from saturdays fight because you finally found something you may get a response to. you, are the biggest loser. and yes i am buried because i am getting off and not responding. so its fair for you to make that assumption as always lol.
                Don't you have something better to do? I buried you and exposed your racist idiocy with links and facts so you had to run away for awhile hoping everyone would forget so now you can't stand me, I get it. Go watch some tv so you can make some more erroneous racist claims. Kingdumb!
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                • Kermit
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                  I get that you don't like Conor but that was a retaliatory one time thing. I think it was ridiculous and Conor might be on something or at very least he's a buffoon but Khabib has always run around in his hooded gremlin pack of midgets. Setting that aside you should not be considered the best MMA fighter if you have to complain about things like gloves being held or a knee when you're in side control with your head exposed.
                  I don't think being considered the "Best" should allow the people that you are fighting to do what ever they want to you. Where do you stop? Should they also be allowed to gouge your eyes, bite, and kick you in the jimmy??
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                  • 2daBank
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kermit
                    I don't think being considered the "Best" should allow the people that you are fighting to do what ever they want to you. Where do you stop? Should they be allowed to gouge your eyes and kick you in the jimmy too?
                    Heck yea!! Now I’d watch that!!
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                    • dlowilly
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                      • 11-09-16
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kermit
                      I don't think being considered the "Best" should allow the people that you are fighting to do what ever they want to you. Where do you stop? Should they also be allowed to gouge your eyes, bite, and kick you in the jimmy??
                      Right, like I said there has to be rules.

                      Not talking about legalizing things which have never been allowed in a professional fight.
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                      • dlowilly
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bonzaii
                        The UFC already has Tom Brady like rules that protect ju jitsu fighters from being stomped to death on the floor.
                        So true

                        Dropping to your back and hoping your opponent will get on top of you would get you destroyed anywhere but inside the octagon
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                        • fried cheese
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                          #13
                          go back to the original rules of only no orifice gouging, fish hooking, or biting. i would also add the pride fighting rule against stalling. if this is suppose to be close to a real fight then ppl should be pulling hair and kneeing ppl in the groin like royce gracie.
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                          • fried cheese
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                            So true

                            Dropping to your back and hoping your opponent will get on top of you would get you destroyed anywhere but inside the octagon
                            nah, gracie just pulled ppl on top of him and still dominated when there were no rules against the stuff you want. there werent even weight classes and he was smallish.
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                            • dlowilly
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by fried cheese
                              nah, gracie just pulled ppl on top of him and still dominated when there were no rules against the stuff you want. there werent even weight classes and he was smallish.
                              I didn't say pull people on top, there's a big difference. Falling to ur back against a standing opponent when you could get stomped or kicked would get 99.99% of fighters killed. I agree Gracie was probably that .01%
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                              • fried cheese
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by dlowilly
                                I didn't say pull people on top, there's a big difference. Falling to ur back against a standing opponent when you could get stomped or kicked would get 99.99% of fighters killed. I agree Gracie was probably that .01%
                                i havent watched mma since pride fighting got cancelled. ufc was already boring with just a bunch of stalling wrestlers and now ppl just fall on their backs? i dont even see the purpose of this besides stalling.
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                                • Kermit
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                                  #17
                                  The UFC did change the rules so now this is legal(in states with the adopted new rules)

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                                  • fried cheese
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                                    #18
                                    how could that even be illegal at any time in mma? that guy is standing up not downed.
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                                    • Kermit
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                                      how could that even be illegal at any time in mma? that guy is standing up not downed.
                                      You used to not be able to the kick on knee an opponent in the head if they had one hand on the mat, now they must have both hands touching. People use to exploit it.
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                                      • MadTiger
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                                        #20
                                        Better JUDGING for fights that go the distance is what is needed. PrideFC scoring was a much more accurate system.
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                                        • fried cheese
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kermit
                                          You used to not be able to the kick on knee an opponent in the head if they had one hand on the mat, now they must have both hands touching. People use to exploit it.
                                          so why did they outlaw kicking downed ppl anyways? also, why are you against groin shots.
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                                          • Kermit
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by fried cheese
                                            so why did they outlaw kicking downed ppl anyways? also, why are you against groin shots.
                                            Soccer kicking people in the head while they are down would probably never fly in the US and the UFC would never be where it is today if that was allowed. As for groin shots, I don't think these guys are paid enough money to risk losing their ability to ever have children.
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                                            • fried cheese
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Kermit
                                              Soccer kicking people in the head while they are down would probably never fly in the US. I don't think these guys are paid enough money to risk losing their ability to ever have children.
                                              its not like we are running out of ppl. less children is a good thing. no one is forcing them to fight.
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                                              • Sanity Check
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fried cheese
                                                so why did they outlaw kicking downed ppl anyways? also, why are you against groin shots.
                                                Cuz people in street fights will emulate it.

                                                Then the UFC and Dana White will be blamed for injuries / fatalities which result in drunk people soccer kicking each other in the head outside of bars.

                                                The UFC tries to promote more of a family environment--which is why their ring card girls wear those family friendly pants instead of g-strings or bikinis.
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                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                  Of course there has to be rules in MMA but right now the rules favor a smothering wrestler
                                                  Watch Tony Ferguson's fight with Kevin Lee.

                                                  Ferguson does a good job of keeping Kevin Lee's head down near his belly button which gives him position to drop big elbows from the bottom.

                                                  Carlos Condit did it 1st against GSP but Ferguson did it better.

                                                  Its the type of skill Conor needed for his fight with Khabib.
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