Questions about sportsbook.com

mockingboy · 12-23-06, 06:04 PM

I won $4000 from me and they told me they were closing my account. All they would do is refund me my deposit and this was two weeks ago.

THe only rule they would quote was that "Management has final say on all account issues". It was complete bullshit.

I have been wagering for a long long time at many sites. I would recommend shifting to wsex or one of the other highly recommended ones.

RickySteve · 12-23-06, 06:07 PM

They have free withdrawals. Why are you letting your balance balloon???

4FUN.AND$$ · 12-23-06, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by RickySteve

They have free withdrawals. Why are you letting your balance balloon???

I unsually only have around 25k in there but hit a couple big plays in the NFL over the past six weeks. I never thought twice about the balance but my betting is like a roller coaster always going up and down. I didn't take the money out becasue I felt confident I would give it back but I have been winning lately as aopposed to my trend over the past few years of ending up a little below or a little above where I started at years beginning. I only bet on Football and once it is over I usually empty most of it out which it where we almost are with the season now. I usually put in 5k in at the beginning of the year but this year I got off to a bad start and had to deposit antoher 3k which gave me 8k and have had winning weeks all year except for 3 my amount has grown. I didn't take it out becasue I thought either I would give it back or football would be over and it would leave then. I am going to remove it in weekly installments and move it over to one of the sites recommended here. Thanks for your replies as I am gauging how much concern I should have on getting my money.

tacomax · 12-23-06, 06:34 PM

The low rating is not so much as a lack of safety of the book but more due to the fact that customer services are pretty dire and management decisions quite often leave a lot to be desired. To their credit, they appear to cave in generally when SBR get involved but a decent sportsbook really shouldn't need SBR banging on their door to do the right thing. Generally, most people have a good experience there, but when it turns bad, it turns really bad.

As has been said before, take advantage of the free withdrawals - that's what they are there for. Personally, I wouldn't be happy having such a large sum at most sportsbooks, never mind sportsbook.com.

tacomax · 12-23-06, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by mockingboy

I won $4000 from me and they told me they were closing my account. All they would do is refund me my deposit and this was two weeks ago.

THe only rule they would quote was that "Management has final say on all account issues". It was complete bullshit.

I have been wagering for a long long time at many sites. I would recommend shifting to wsex or one of the other highly recommended ones.

Have you contacted SBR about this?

If not, fire off an email to assistance@SportsbookReview.com will all relevant details and they will examine this on your behalf.

mockingboy · 12-23-06, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

Have you contacted SBR about this?

If not, fire off an email to assistance@SportsbookReview.com will all relevant details and they will examine this on your behalf.

Thanks Taco.

I already have the guys at RX.com looking into it.

pags11 · 12-24-06, 03:33 AM

stay far, far away from sportsbook.com...

justbet · 12-24-06, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by mockingboy

Thanks Taco.

I already have the guys at RX.com looking into it.

It couldnt hurt to get SBR involved. they stole money from you. you need to get it back

OCKO · 12-24-06, 06:50 PM

Sportsbook.com is 100% solid

I have extensive experience with Sportsbook.com along with all their sister sites. For starters, your money is 100% safe - they ALWAYS pay. Payouts normally take 24-48 hours, but sometimes can take up to 2 weeks or more.

The payout threshold, in my experience, is $8k, meaning a payout of $7999 or less usually flies under the radar. Any payout of $8k or above requires management approval, which usually results in a delay of a few days. That being said, my advice to you is this: withdraw everything at once, leaving 5k or so. I've made many 5 figures withdrawals at Sportingbet books (and World Gaming books) over the years, and have always been paid, albeit not promptly.

I have an account at Sportsbook.com and maintain a balance of less than 10k, but will withdraw everything once football is over.

Another warning, Sportingbet books in general will often take a shot at players who make payouts. I have seen this many, many times and here's how it works. You make a payout request, and the money (actually V-chips) is immediately deducted from your account. A week goes by and you have not received your payout. It is up to you to follow-up with them to make sure you get paid. If you don't follow-up, you will never get paid. Interesting that there is no way to view your account activity insofar as payouts. The Sportingbet books probably make decent money from unorganized players who do not follow-up with their payout requests.

The low rating for Sportsbook.com is largely due to payout delays, IMO. The Sportingbet books have always offered a host of BS reasons for their payout delays including "management review" and "random audit". Despite their low rating, your money is safe there, but you should pare down your balance.

Arilou · 12-25-06, 08:44 AM

I think this shows a flaw in the rating system. Sportsbook.com is not an A+ book, no one is saying that it is, but if your money is safe and we're confident of that what delays could justify a D-? I know that I wouldn't even consider a new D-level book but have no problem trusting Sportsbook.com with balances that are quite large.

pags11 · 12-26-06, 03:26 AM

the D- rating is justified...there's not a bigger book on the planet that tries to act legit, but will look for any chance to screw you...if you want to add your name to the list of already scammed, go ahead and play with these guys...if you want to get paid with no hassles, stay away...

samsmith555 · 01-08-07, 03:15 AM

sportsbook.com is asking for photo id and bank statement. It's $600 that i am trying to withdraw. Now they won't even put it back into my account. I seriously do not want to provide anyone with this information. What can i do about it now? wish i found this place before sportsbook.

bigboydan · 01-08-07, 03:19 AM

First off, Welcome to the SBR forum samsmith555

I do see your concern. However, there are a few books out there that require that info nowadays. So I wouldn't be alarmed by it at all.

tacomax · 01-08-07, 03:23 AM

This isn't unusual at all for any book if you deposited from your bank, samsmith555. I don't generally deposit from my bank, but I would suspect that most books would want some kind of ID from you to make sure that you're the account holder for fraud prevention purposes.

EDIT - and BGD beat me to it.

samsmith555 · 01-08-07, 03:27 AM

thanks for the quick reply guys. I'm a little relieved, but I do see all the negative post about sportsbook.

tacomax · 01-08-07, 03:32 AM

No problems. Sure, they aren't the best book in the world but you shouldn't worry too much about a request for information such as this - it's pretty normal in the industry.

pags11 · 01-09-07, 04:08 AM

pinnacle, betcris, betjamaica, cascade, legendz and bodog have never asked me for an ID to get paid, ever...the ID thing is usually a stall tactic used by books to delay payment...they often tell your your ID didn't come through clear enough or is too dark...notable books that do this are sportsbook.com and nine.com...

tacomax · 01-09-07, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by pags11

pinnacle, betcris, betjamaica, cascade, legendz and bodog have never asked me for an ID to get paid, ever...the ID thing is usually a stall tactic used by books to delay payment...they often tell your your ID didn't come through clear enough or is too dark...notable books that do this are sportsbook.com and nine.com...

Totally incorrect.

If you fund an account via a bank then there is a much higher chance of the sportsbook wanting some ID to prove that the account is yours. If you deposit by Neteller then there is a lesser chance of this happening since your identity has already been confirmed to Neteller when you opened your account in the first place. Some books, either through required legislation or internal rules, dictate that you have to provide ID even for certain Neteller withdrawals such as Mansion and TheGreek.

When I opened by account at Pinnacle and funded by bank account, I was asked to provide a copy of the front and back of the bank card as well as photo ID. So - was Pinnacle using stall tactics to delay payment?

pags11 · 01-09-07, 04:37 AM

tacomax,

funny how a subjective opinion can be "totally incorrect". My hypothesis for these shit books requiring an ID is much closer to the truth than your constant bullshit defense of them...face it, you play with some horse shit books (sportsbook.com and mansion)...you think you're such an expert and your not...

if you deposit via neteller, there should be zero reason a book asks for an ID...if you deposit from a bank, I can maybe see a reason...slight maybe...bullshit tactics + bullshit books + shitty ass picks = tacomax's gambling career (although he doesn't really bet)

...

and two of my friends deposited via the echeck method (both initial deposits for new customers)and were not asked for an ID from pinnacle when they deposited or requested a withdrawal...they probably made you do so because your are a European wanker who doesn't bathe or wear deoderant...I've never heard of pinnacle asking for an ID...I'm sure they have, but it's just not commonplace...

Arilou · 01-09-07, 08:34 AM

Pinnacle has asked me for ID, as has Greek, as has Bodog. Sportsbook.com (and ironically SIA) have never done so. Pinnacle did it because I used a CC to fund my account at one point. Greek has a general policy. Bodog had some false alarms go off and went into verification mode. I agree that this shouldn't be necessary, but sometimes they do it.

tacomax · 01-09-07, 01:54 PM

Looks like Pinnacle are well known for using ID request as a "stall tactic used by books to delay payment".

BuddyBear · 01-09-07, 02:16 PM

The photo ID trick is common with books like Sportsbook.com. It's basically a stall tactic. The idea is simple. If you are making a withdrawal from a book that's not good news for the book. You may be up or they may incurr fees for processing your withdrawal. Either way, delaying withdrawals by giving phony excuses like we need a photo ID before we can process your withdrawal is a major stall tactic. On the surface the book tries to project an image that they are concerned for safety and stuff.....let me tell you the reality. The reality is they want to keep your money in your account b/c they know the longer it is in there, especially if you bet at sportsbook.com, the more likely you are to lose it. Hence, the 3-4 days need to verify with a photo ID is nothing more than one last pathetic attempt for them to take your money. If the good books do request ID, they do it sparingly and they do it for real serious concerns for safety...not to take your money like sportsbook.com.

I've deposited via check numerous times at Betjamica....never once asked for a photo ID or any nonsense like that.

bigloser · 01-09-07, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by pags11

pinnacle, betcris, betjamaica, cascade, legendz and bodog have never asked me for an ID to get paid, ever...the ID thing is usually a stall tactic used by books to delay payment...they often tell your your ID didn't come through clear enough or is too dark...notable books that do this are sportsbook.com and nine.com...

Pinnacle asked for my ID to deposit ?!

RickySteve · 01-09-07, 03:42 PM

I'm so sick of people complaining about showing their ID. Those are businesses attempting to prevent fraud, which is a real and significant risk. Do you idiots refuse to fly or buy alcohol too?

Yoshi · 01-09-07, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by 4FUN.AND$$

I unsually only have around 25k in there but hit a couple big plays in the NFL over the past six weeks.

I dont know how big your bankroll is, but that is still waaay too much considering sportsbook.com is a shit book.
How often do they have a better line than all the top books?

pags11 · 01-10-07, 02:56 AM

agreed yoshi...buddy is right as well...anyone remember in the movie Casino when those Asian guys' flight gets "delayed" and the hotel comps them another night and they lose a shitload at the table after being up big?...same principle applies here...

on a side note, guys what the hell are you doing funding your account with a credit card?...that's just asking for trouble...many credit card companies will charge you a cash advance fee if they know you are doing business with an online gambling company...plus, scared money never wins...

it does appear that the percentage chance goes up of you getting asked for your ID if you are from outside the U.S...tacomax is a rag by the way, a rag who promotes crappy books...

4FUN.AND$$ · 01-20-07, 02:11 AM

Just as a folow up I did get all my $$ in 7k withdrawal increments with minmal hassles. They wired the oney to me via ACH. I left 5k for now to see how things go in the industry in upcoming months

tacomax · 01-20-07, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by pags11

tacomax is a rag by the way, a rag who promotes crappy books...

Nice bump by 4FUN.AND$$ - I missed that post.

What books, crappy or otherwise have I ever promoted for financial reward on this or any other forum? Seems a bit strange coming from someone who has been pimping their own affiliate links on gambling forums.

WWTSblows · 01-20-07, 11:51 AM

sportsbook.com is great. Once they took a 150 dollar bonus out of my withdrawal and after 5 email refused to give me a reason and said the decision is final. I gave up on it. 6 weeks later they credited 150 to my account (I did have to start the WR over again), turned it into 300 and cashed out fine. I've never been back since.

pags11 · 01-21-07, 06:08 AM

wwtsblows,

smart decision...tacomax will be their last standing customer...