Is there something to betting against big favorites -200 + this late in the year when teams don't even need to win since they already clinched? Saw it last night in the Indians/Whitesox game where Bauer was yanked after 4 innings and than Carrasaco came in to pitch the last 5 innings. Whitesox started threatening in the 9th inning after being down 4-2 headed into the inning and instead of yanking Carssaco for a reliever which most coaches would do they kept Carrasco out there like they were testing them to see what he could give them come playoff time and he blew it and Whitesox ended up winning.
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bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
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#1Betting against heavy favorites late in the year MLBTags: None -
bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-07-17
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#2I know the Os are terrible but I see that Sale has gone 3 innings, 3 innings, and one inning in his late outings. Is he going to get yanked early again?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#3you could get lucky and catch a streak, nothing to lose now
Bonzy your fukkin barreled in anywayComment -
FedorSBR Sharp
- 09-02-18
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#4“He’s going to pitch against the Orioles, that’ll be his last start for the [regular] season,” said Dombrowski. “He will stretch out again to 90-ish pitches, and then be ready to throw 100 pitches for the postseason.”
A couple of other questions about tonight's game:
- Do they play their starters in a day/night doubleheader? They all played in the first 'game' (except Bradley, I think).
- Are Sox backups better then the O's starters?
- Huge wind blowing out. Innings/HRs this year: Yacabonis 32/8, Sale 153/11
I'll pass.
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bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-07-17
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#5up several thousand this week.Originally posted by jjgoldyou could get lucky and catch a streak, nothing to lose now
Bonzy your fukkin barreled in anywayComment -
dawg58kahnRestricted User- 08-19-18
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#6orioles are too big at +400 with all these variables. it makes no sense for sox to play the regulars in a doubleheader in an inconsequential gameOriginally posted by Fedor“He’s going to pitch against the Orioles, that’ll be his last start for the [regular] season,” said Dombrowski. “He will stretch out again to 90-ish pitches, and then be ready to throw 100 pitches for the postseason.”
A couple of other questions about tonight's game:
- Do they play their starters in a day/night doubleheader? They all played in the first 'game' (except Bradley, I think).
- Are Sox backups better then the O's starters?
- Huge wind blowing out. Innings/HRs this year: Yacabonis 32/8, Sale 153/11
I'll pass.
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LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#7No, Sale scheduled for 90 pitches, so 5-6 innings.Originally posted by bonzaiiI know the Os are terrible but I see that Sale has gone 3 innings, 3 innings, and one inning in his late outings. Is he going to get yanked early again?Comment -
danshan11SBR MVP
- 07-08-17
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#890 pitches against the cws could be 3 complete games LOLComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#9Bonzy do not give it back manComment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#10Yes, Sos resting whole team, Bradley is batting lead-off and he is the only regular in the lineup besides Devers, who has only been playing regularly since Nunez got hurt. And Devers is batting cleanup.Originally posted by dawg58kahnorioles are too big at +400 with all these variables. it makes no sense for sox to play the regulars in a doubleheader in an inconsequential gameComment -
bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-07-17
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#11Originally posted by Fedor“He’s going to pitch against the Orioles, that’ll be his last start for the [regular] season,” said Dombrowski. “He will stretch out again to 90-ish pitches, and then be ready to throw 100 pitches for the postseason.”
A couple of other questions about tonight's game:
- Do they play their starters in a day/night doubleheader? They all played in the first 'game' (except Bradley, I think).
- Are Sox backups better then the O's starters?
- Huge wind blowing out. Innings/HRs this year: Yacabonis 32/8, Sale 153/11
I'll pass.
Yeah I was only going to take a shot if he was going to get yanked early. Thanks for the info guys.Originally posted by LT ProfitsNo, Sale scheduled for 90 pitches, so 5-6 innings.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#12I could probably research this if you give me a time frame. Say, after September 15th?Originally posted by bonzaiiIs there something to betting against big favorites -200 + this late in the year when teams don't even need to win since they already clinched? Saw it last night in the Indians/Whitesox game where Bauer was yanked after 4 innings and than Carrasaco came in to pitch the last 5 innings. Whitesox started threatening in the 9th inning after being down 4-2 headed into the inning and instead of yanking Carssaco for a reliever which most coaches would do they kept Carrasco out there like they were testing them to see what he could give them come playoff time and he blew it and Whitesox ended up winning.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#13It was easier to use Game Numbers, so I did fading faves -200+ last 20 games (Game 143 onward) and results were not good.Originally posted by LT ProfitsI could probably research this if you give me a time frame. Say, after September 15th?
172-395, -29.35 units since 2005Comment -
bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-07-17
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#14ouch. How did you access that so quickly?Originally posted by LT ProfitsIt was easier to use Game Numbers, so I did fading faves -200+ last 20 games (Game 143 onward) and results were not good.
172-395, -29.35 units since 2005Comment -
NardVaSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-07
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#15The these big underdogs are just going through the motions. No effort in pitching and no effort on defense. Look at today. Boston beat Baltimore 19 -3. Washington is up on Miami 9-0. These big underdogs are getting beat by football scores.Comment -
danshan11SBR MVP
- 07-08-17
- 4101
#16they win and win just like they normally do
you can see it here
403-183 (1.65, 68.8%) avg line: -235.2 / 202.3 on / against: -$2,060 / -$3,915 ROI: -1.5% / -6.7% 236-208 (0.42, 53.2%) avg line: -114.1 / 101.1 on / against: +$308 / -$2,905 ROI: +0.6% / -6.2% 285-266-33 (0.53, 51.7%) avg total: 8.6 over / under: -$400 / -$4,873 ROI: -0.6% / -7.5% Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#17You will pretty much always, no matter what gap of the season, or even whole season you, that look at will see a 30% win rate on this fade.Originally posted by LT ProfitsIt was easier to use Game Numbers, so I did fading faves -200+ last 20 games (Game 143 onward) and results were not good.
172-395, -29.35 units since 2005
It's been tough to get a profit out something like this any time over the last 10 years, with the exception of fading the favorites in 2016.
I think if you even go back a few more games, say starting from game 120 or so, you see a significant jump in loss.
Remember, now, you are fading the favorite here, you are not searching underdog odds.
If you do this the first half of the season, the whole season, you might lose 40 units or so, you do this between games 80 and 100 and you are losing 15 units or so.
Do this from games 100 to the end of the season, every season for about LT's time span, and you are going to lose significantly. You will lose 100 units.
Not a good blanket strategy over the last dozen years or so, you are basically looking at a -5% ROI late season, about -4% first half of the season and worse than -6% from about 100 games to game 143. I have different closers from different books and thus a small range of percentages and units being tracked. Different books have different ROI's.
So of course, fading those dogs will do well....lol.
For the 2018 season, fading those favorites has been terrible. If you've been fading -200 or better favorites, you are down 35 - 40 units. It's less than the 30% clip and is one of, if not the worst season in a dozen years.
So of course, again, fading those dogs will probably do well the rest of the time...lol.
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LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#18Easy to do with Bet Labs.Originally posted by bonzaiiouch. How did you access that so quickly?Comment -
Inkwell77SBR MVP
- 02-03-11
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#19Big Dogs in MLB getting killed for like 5 years straight.
Amazing kind of.Comment -
lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer
- 06-22-16
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#20juice never pays, bonzaii sharp as they comeComment -
ShuteSBR Posting Legend
- 03-20-17
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#21Anyone watching the + 300 Baltimore / Boston 2nd game?Comment -
ShuteSBR Posting Legend
- 03-20-17
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#22Bang
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#23The season could finish out strong here, hitting more than normal as it really doesn't vary too much from that 30% clip over time. Before tonight were looking at 27% on the season.Originally posted by KVB...For the 2018 season, fading those favorites has been terrible. If you've been fading -200 or better favorites, you are down 35 - 40 units. It's less than the 30% clip and is one of, if not the worst season in a dozen years.
So of course, again, fading those dogs will probably do well the rest of the time...lol...
I know it's game by game, but don't be surprised if those dogs hit late this year.
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bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-07-17
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#24Haha I do okay once in a while. People actually chimed in and convinced me not to bet this.Originally posted by lonegambler23juice never pays, bonzaii sharp as they comeComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388208
#25Interesting how the big chalks did pretty good this year in major-league baseball that means the good pitchers won .Comment
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