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  • terpkeg
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    • 10-26-09
    • 2364

    #36
    6:00 am didn't matter on this day ........

    WEST POINT, N.Y. -- Rich Ellerson would've taken just one more play by his Army football team.
    But his alma mater got it instead.
    Scott Enos kicked a 31-yard field goal with 7.3 seconds remaining and Hawaii edged Army 31-28 on Saturday.
    The Warriors won after Kamalu Umu forced Black Knights quarterback Max Jenkins to fumble, with Aaron Brown recovering it at the Hawaii 27-yard line with 24.3 seconds remaining.
    Trailing 21-0 early in the second quarter, Army (1-1) came back to take a 28-21 lead in the third quarter on a day when West Point paid tribute to first responders on the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
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    • newton0038
      SBR MVP
      • 03-07-07
      • 2389

      #37
      Pinny has 31.5 for 1st half total. SBR Book has 30 1st half. Who sharper?
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      • JAKEPEAVY21
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        • 03-11-11
        • 29311

        #38
        Originally posted by Sam Odom
        Brock Landers sent this email 2 days ago

        "Hawaii ML

        Pound this like your penetrating life depends on it


        GET SOME!"
        fukk me bloody hell
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        • stevenash
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          • 01-17-11
          • 65639

          #39
          I have loose change in my betonline account.
          I got Army -6.5 for 1.5*
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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #40
            And Jake... In same email Landers said take South Florida -10 also
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            • mncosoldier
              SBR MVP
              • 11-26-09
              • 3215

              #41
              Originally posted by jjgold
              talk to at least 50 people this week from all over the united states and not one person has army favored in this game

              interesting line
              wow nobody here must be in the military...... They would know that this is the week of sep 11 and the motivation around west point could cure death!!!!! These cadets will come out with a chip on there shoulder-promise!!!!!
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              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                • 03-11-11
                • 29311

                #42
                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                And Jake... In same email Landers said take South Florida -10 also
                I'm on that too..looks like a rough day sammy
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                • speyside_88
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 08-06-18
                  • 44

                  #43
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  And as a result they are 2 and 10 when playing in the eastern time zone.Don't kid yourself those 5,000 mile trips are brutal.
                  Big reason why the Mariners in baseball haven't had much success is because they fly many more miles each season then any other team.
                  Big reason why the Mariners haven't had much success is because they've been fukking terrible at baseball. Houston and Oakland are top 3 in most travel miles for the 2018 season and they've both already cracked 90 wins.

                  People blowing the travel and 6 am local start way out of proportion. They've had a couple days to get acclimated, so I don't think it'll affect them much. Plus, these are 18-19 year old kids... the travel ain't gonna have the same effect on them as the middle aged degenerate on here.
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                  • unusialsusp5
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                    • 04-18-10
                    • 4198

                    #44
                    Originally posted by mncosoldier
                    wow nobody here must be in the military...... They would know that this is the week of sep 11 and the motivation around west point could cure death!!!!! These cadets will come out with a chip on there shoulder-promise!!!!!
                    not one of those cadets were over 3 years old when 9/11 occurred. hawaii upgraded their roster this season.
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                    • TheVegasGrind
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 08-23-18
                      • 67

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                      Brock Landers sent this email 2 days ago

                      "Hawaii MLPound this like your penetrating life depends on it
                      GET SOME!"
                      Looks like Brock is on the right side for once.
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                      • milwaukee mike
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                        • 08-22-07
                        • 26914

                        #46
                        Originally posted by speyside_88
                        Big reason why the Mariners haven't had much success is because they've been fukking terrible at baseball. Houston and Oakland are top 3 in most travel miles for the 2018 season and they've both already cracked 90 wins.

                        People blowing the travel and 6 am local start way out of proportion. They've had a couple days to get acclimated, so I don't think it'll affect them much. Plus, these are 18-19 year old kids... the travel ain't gonna have the same effect on them as the middle aged degenerate on here.
                        ok so how many points do you think it is worth, to lose an entire day of practice/prep time while traveling and deal with the time difference?

                        apparently something close to 0?

                        2-10 ATS speaks for itself... you might get lucky and get a hawaii win/cover, but you're pretty much hoping and praying
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                        • FakeNews916
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 06-26-17
                          • 141

                          #47
                          Waking up early for a game is nothing. You act like in humid Hawaii that they sleep in and practice mid-day. Most families in Hawaii do things early in the morning or late in the day to avoid the sun and humidity.

                          Will take Hawaii +7. Should be a close game. Hawaii could win outright or lose by a few but I don't see a TD loss
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                          • swordsandtequila
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                            • 02-23-12
                            • 9757

                            #48
                            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                            Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

                            good luck today boys.
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                            • mdunlap3
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                              • 02-18-13
                              • 1847

                              #49
                              Maybe under?
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                              • gojetsgomoxies
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                                • 09-04-12
                                • 4222

                                #50
                                i tend to agree with OP and that was my first inclination too....

                                BUT,

                                extreme travel game, as noted... i think it is 7 am hawaii start time.

                                i haven't looked at this specifically, but isn't army all running. that may be a big problem for hawaii defense with few returning starters and mega depth issues. and please make sure hawaii hasn't lost any defenders since last week

                                for me, it's no play.. but def lean hawaii
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                                • gojetsgomoxies
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                                  • 09-04-12
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                                  #51
                                  we need a "this spreads makes no sense" thread.......... only for spreads people think are completely off, like more than a TD
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                                  • Grits n' Gravy
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                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 13024

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Talk to at least 50 people this week from all over the United States and not one person has Army favored in this game

                                    Interesting line
                                    The point nobody has brought up is the 50+ people you spoke to all over US are likely clowns like brock, fishdick and whatever other kids you’ve made friends with on MySpace recently.
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                                    • Tigers1230
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-04-07
                                      • 1568

                                      #53
                                      Hawaii jumped to a 28-0 lead against navy and held on to the lead. I don’t expect them to get going this quick today with them essentially getting ready and warming up at 4am. And they will be dealing with 5he option and run all day which by itself is very tiring. I think Hawaii is the better team but this early start has to be brutal for those kids.
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                                      • mncosoldier
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-26-09
                                        • 3215

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                        not one of those cadets were over 3 years old when 9/11 occurred. hawaii upgraded their roster this season.
                                        Motivation is based on their surroundings..... i.e leaders!!!!!

                                        You must have never served!
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                                        • unusialsusp5
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-18-10
                                          • 4198

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by mncosoldier
                                          Motivation is based on their surroundings..... i.e leaders!!!!!

                                          You must have never served!
                                          half of those cadets couldn't even tell you what year 9/11 happened.
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29311

                                            #56
                                            Hawaii looks dead tired lol

                                            7-0 Bows
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                                            • Venom72
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                                              • 10-05-16
                                              • 2041

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Tigers1230
                                              Hawaii jumped to a 28-0 lead against navy and held on to the lead. I don’t expect them to get going this quick today with them essentially getting ready and warming up at 4am. And they will be dealing with 5he option and run all day which by itself is very tiring. I think Hawaii is the better team but this early start has to be brutal for those kids.
                                              Yea..about that lol
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                                              • krk1030
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-13-08
                                                • 17610

                                                #58
                                                Defense is so bad I went team total over 28. 7 points not even 2 minutes in.

                                                Just hope the defense is really bad and army drives are not 8 minutes a clip.
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                                                • TheVegasGrind
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 08-23-18
                                                  • 67

                                                  #59
                                                  Great start for us Hawaii backers!
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                                                  • stevenash
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                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65639

                                                    #60
                                                    This McDonald kid looks legit
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                                                    • krk1030
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                                                      • 08-13-08
                                                      • 17610

                                                      #61
                                                      Should have just taken the bows ML

                                                      Army can't even gain a yard.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #62
                                                        Hawaii is fukkin devastating
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                                                        • krk1030
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                                                          • 08-13-08
                                                          • 17610

                                                          #63
                                                          Or not lol
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                                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 03-11-11
                                                            • 29311

                                                            #64
                                                            need the over 62 badly
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                                                            • jtoler
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                                                              • 12-17-13
                                                              • 30967

                                                              #65
                                                              9/11 angles, travel angles, rushing angles lol all for naught
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                                                              • krk1030
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                                                                • 08-13-08
                                                                • 17610

                                                                #66
                                                                9/11 angles...really people?
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                                                                • jtoler
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                                                                  • 12-17-13
                                                                  • 30967

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies
                                                                  we need a "this spreads makes no sense" thread.......... only for spreads people think are completely off, like more than a TD
                                                                  yea these are the kind of spreads to highlight each week with a thread, couple games like this each week. wonder what the line opened at because the line is actually shaded towards hawaii, army should be favored by about 10, they have army rated higher than they should prob, but they have hawaii rated way lower than they should be
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Hawaii has the score next
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                                                                    • stevenash
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                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65639

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                      Hawaii looks dead tired

                                                                      7-0 Bows
                                                                      Yeah, they do.
                                                                      Cadets up 7 at the half.
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388179

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Well at least we are still in the game

                                                                        hawaii looks flat now
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