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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Nobody can figure out why Army is favored over Hawaii tomorrow
    Talk to at least 50 people this week from all over the United States and not one person has Army favored in this game

    Interesting line
  • milwaukee mike
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    • 08-22-07
    • 26914

    #2
    Originally posted by jjgold
    Talk to at least 50 people this week from all over the United States and not one person has Army favored in this game

    Interesting line
    Hawaii is playing at 6am Hawaii time... try to find a teenager that is even coherent at 6am
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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #3
      Weak and foolish thread Gold, I'll tell you why.

      It looks like I've forgotten more about handicapping than you will ever know, not the other way around.

      Originally posted by KVB
      The stacking forecast says Army wins with 30 points Hawaii's 13 points. The public gauge say Army wins 35-24.

      The line opened at 5, 5.5 in some houses, and jumped to 6.5, towards the forecast.

      The early bettors must be sharp, forecast style, because that line moved upward in the face of nothing but public pressure and money on Hawaii.

      The books are developing a contrarian situation here where sharper money, but perhaps not all, are also on that contrarian side...
      The money is on Army, Gold, always has been.

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      • RangeFinder
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        • 10-27-16
        • 8041

        #4
        Originally posted by KVB
        Weak and foolish thread Gold, I'll tell you why.

        It looks like I've forgotten more about handicapping than you will ever know, not the other way around.



        The money is on Army, Gold, always has been.

        Let me add that the sharp money stopped flowing on Army when the number hit 7. The number became too torched.
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
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          • 04-04-11
          • 37462

          #5
          JJ, it's a tricky game to cap. Very true. Some things to consider:

          1) Extreme travel game.
          2) Bows have performed MUCH better than expected. So, they probably weren't going to be Fav here.
          3) Army looked pretty sharp last out. Rushing game going, could be hard on Bows.
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • milwaukee mike
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            • 08-22-07
            • 26914

            #6
            7 is still way too low, army should be favored by 14 or so with that ridiculous start time advantage and travel
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            • lakerboy
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              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              It's one of those games where the sharps might lose. It's oversharp
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              • chico2663
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                • 09-02-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by RangeFinder
                Let me add that the sharp money stopped flowing on Army when the number hit 7. The number became too torched.
                ood thing i got them at 6.5
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                • cincinnatikid513
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-23-17
                  • 45360

                  #9
                  nobody can figure out why you are mlb moderator but we deal with it
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                  • Venom72
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                    • 10-05-16
                    • 2041

                    #10
                    Im guessing vegas still thinks hawaii is the same team as last season
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                    • veriableodds
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                      • 08-22-17
                      • 5093

                      #11
                      love hawaii here.. the are a legit tp 50 team and climbing after what ive seen
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                      • gauchojake
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                        • 09-17-10
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                        #12
                        We were playing Army on Tuesday jj.
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                        • trillz
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                          • 03-02-16
                          • 1668

                          #13
                          Playing the under here. Hawaii gonna be asleep the whole first half
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                          • stevenash
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                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65639

                            #14
                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                            Hawaii is playing at 6am Hawaii time... try to find a teenager that is even coherent at 6am
                            And as a result they are 2 and 10 when playing in the eastern time zone.Don't kid yourself those 5,000 mile trips are brutal.
                            Big reason why the Mariners in baseball haven't had much success is because they fly many more miles each season then any other team.
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                            • veriableodds
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                              • 08-22-17
                              • 5093

                              #15
                              these kids get together and play once a week, its not a baseball team which travels 3-4 nights a week. These guys are ready for this. Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
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                              • stevenash
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                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65639

                                #16
                                Originally posted by veriableodds
                                Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
                                Speaks volumes
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                                • VeggieDog
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                                  • 02-21-09
                                  • 7214

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                  And as a result they are 2 and 10 when playing in the eastern time zone.Don't kid yourself those 5,000 mile trips are brutal.
                                  Big reason why the Mariners in baseball haven't had much success is because they fly many more miles each season then any other team.
                                  Makes sense. I think I'll sprinkle a little on Army.
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                                  • bonzaii
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                                    • 07-07-17
                                    • 5000

                                    #18
                                    Haven't see Hawaii play much yet but this Cole Mcdonald kid sure does have an impressive stat line so far this year albeit against terrible competition. Hawaii got torched on the ground last week against Navy who also runs the triple option that Army does, but if they can't stop Hawaii through the air it may not matter. 6 AM does seem really earlier to play a game. Hell at any age I would hate to play a game before 10 am.
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                                    • USCPHILLYGUY
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-15-12
                                      • 21746

                                      #19
                                      Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

                                      good luck today boys.
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                                      • Optional
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                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61667

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                        Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

                                        good luck today boys.
                                        Sounds good to me
                                        .
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                                        • Venom72
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                                          • 10-05-16
                                          • 2041

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by veriableodds
                                          these kids get together and play once a week, its not a baseball team which travels 3-4 nights a week. These guys are ready for this. Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
                                          This^^ Plus hawaii looks great right now beating colorado st, navy and rice, meanwhile army lost to duke and only put up 34 points on liberty??? Comon now, ill def take my chances with the better team as a dog, hawaii ml+205
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29311

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                            Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

                                            good luck today boys.
                                            agreed
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                                            • JayDr3am
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                                              • 05-06-14
                                              • 18260

                                              #23
                                              army is laying a touchdown lol
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                                              • USCPHILLYGUY
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                                                • 12-15-12
                                                • 21746

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                agreed
                                                Jake. 230am local time. Hoping you just returned from Cheetahs!
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                                                • veriableodds
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                                                  • 08-22-17
                                                  • 5093

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Venom72
                                                  This^^ Plus hawaii looks great right now beating colorado st, navy and rice, meanwhile army lost to duke and only put up 34 points on liberty??? Comon now, ill def take my chances with the better team as a dog, hawaii ml+205
                                                  Agree they have the rainbow power to take flight.. Hope they do
                                                  GL
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Men thanks for all your input

                                                    I did not make the play yet after reading everything
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                                                    • thetrinity
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                                                      • 01-25-11
                                                      • 22430

                                                      #27
                                                      one of the more interesting games for sure
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
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                                                        • 08-22-07
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                        these kids get together and play once a week, its not a baseball team which travels 3-4 nights a week. These guys are ready for this. Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
                                                        there's still jet lag, even if they've been there a couple days

                                                        have you ever been to hawaii? i get up at 2-3am the first few days because it is really 7-8am milwaukee time

                                                        last time hawaii played in the eastern time zone they lost 63-3
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                                                        • stevenash
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                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65639

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                                          army is laying a touchdown lol
                                                          So what you are saying is the line makers in Vegas made a colossal mistake making the opener Army -7
                                                          The sports books are not in the colossal mistake business.
                                                          There's a reason why Army is a TD favorite.

                                                          I was leaning toward Army, but now I'm thinking I'll pass on this affair.
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            So what you are saying is the line makers in Vegas made a colossal mistake making the opener Army -7
                                                            The sports books are not in the colossal mistake business.
                                                            There's a reason why Army is a TD favorite.

                                                            I was leaning toward Army, but now I'm thinking I'll pass on this affair.
                                                            why would you pass? army -6.5 might be the best pick on the board
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              I took Hawaii

                                                              FYI
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                                                              • stevenash
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                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65639

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                why would you pass? army -6.5 might be the best pick on the board
                                                                I wavering now.
                                                                May go 1* Army
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                                                                • Amay537
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 08-18-18
                                                                  • 74

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I could not understand why army was favored by 6 points either. Everyone I know has made a mint on Hawaii in the past 3 games, (except me) and absolutely love them. They are a public team this year imo.
                                                                  After reading all this. It sounds like a really confident Hawaii lover. Talking people out of stealing, and easily winning with army.
                                                                  Cause my momma, my friends momma, and my mommas momma all are on Hawaii. Noone respects Army.
                                                                  Sorry, I'm new, just my 2 cents. Maybe the pro wants us all betting Hawaii too, so he can guarantee his Army pick. You never know. 😋
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65639

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Amay537
                                                                    I could not understand why army was favored by 6 points either. Everyone I know has made a mint on Hawaii in the past 3 games, (except me) and absolutely love them. They are a public team this year imo.
                                                                    After reading all this. It sounds like a really confident Hawaii lover. Talking people out of stealing, and easily winning with army.
                                                                    Cause my momma, my friends momma, and my mommas momma all are on Hawaii. Noone respects Army.
                                                                    Sorry, I'm new, just my 2 cents. Maybe the pro wants us all betting Hawaii too, so he can guarantee his Army pick. You never know. 
                                                                    Good post newbie.
                                                                    Welcome aboard.
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                                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                                      • 58063

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Brock Landers sent this email 2 days ago

                                                                      "Hawaii ML

                                                                      Pound this like your penetrating life depends on it


                                                                      GET SOME!"
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