Syracuse a home dog to FSU???

[shocka1212]

Am I missing something here?

[KVB]

I think the line is about right. My stacking percentages forecast has Florida St. winning 21-17.

The opener has moved toward my forecast and what I've heard and seen, which is only so much this early in the week, the public, or tickets are trending towards Syracuse while the money is trending the other way. The markets moved with the early money, which took a position in some sharp books on Florida State.

I get these conclusions because generally when the money disagrees with the public, it indicates sharper money, this is also demonstrated over time with moves at certain books. We've some of those moves as high as -3.5.

That's all I've got for now and there is certainly more volume to come in but that's the picture from the early betting standpoint.

[shocka1212]

Syracuse 1h spread maybe?

For the record, before anyone comes in here insulting me (that asshole from Saturday), trying to get better at capping CFB so shooting ideas around trying to gauge how we look at these games.

[Enkhbat]

Given the incompetence of Florida State coach, I think Syracuse will win.

[jjgold]

I’ll take Syracuse but never forget the lines are not wrong

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I’ll take Syracuse but never forget the lines are not wrong

ok, genius

[gojetsgomoxies]

it all comes down to processing of info which is very subjective....

recent form suggests syracuse......... almost any other time in the last 15 years suggests FSU often big...

so how do you weight it? if you believe in Taggart then they will come on strong at some point very soon. if not, then syracuse is an obvious play.

my one concern is the carrier dome (still their home? name?) will be incredible environment for the game. i'm assuming they can sell out a competitive game vs. a perennial top 15 opponent really easily even though general interest will have dropped alot

bottom line, i usually weight the long term more than the market does but in cases like oregon-washington the experience has been the exact opposite (washington could barely compete vs. oregon for 15 years and then suddenly they killed them the last 2 or 3 years)

[gojetsgomoxies]

another way to put it is FSU has much much better talent.......... but when will that be reflected in their play? probably soon, but maybe not this week

[krk1030]

FSU is fsr better than they have shown so far.

[thebestthereis]

[jtoler]

no reason to take fsu they have underachieved for years Ive been watching. they are frequently a team that goes through the motions for 3 quarters then try to turn it on the the 4th qtr, new coach but change not reflecting so far they might get blowed out

[LT Profits]

FSU still overrated due to name recognition, I have this game close to a Pick (Actually Syracuse -0.60).

[SBR Drew]

As a FSU fan...if they lose to SYR it clearly would be the end of the season...doubt if they would win more than 2 more games for entire season...those being NO ILL and maybe Wake.


As mentioned on Saturday night this coach has no business being in Tallahassee.

[Grits n' Gravy]

FSU has tons of talent but Taggert’s system is much different than Jimbo’s. It will take time for it to come together.

Seminole fans need to realize if not for Jameis their program would have sank even lower on national pecking order.

[ikid2groove415]

FSU has tons of talent but Taggert’s system is much different than Jimbo’s. It will take time for it to come together.

Seminole fans need to realize if not for Jameis their program would have sank even lower on national pecking order.

You mean the guy that’s rapes women’s and steal crab legs? ( Syracuse sucks -

[Grits n' Gravy]

You mean the guy that’s rapes women’s and steal crab legs? ( Syracuse sucks -

Yup. The guy who led them to title. That guy. No Winston = no title a few years back. He made Jimbo appear to be a good HC.

[shocka1212]

Yup. The guy who led them to title. That guy. No Winston = no title a few years back. He made Jimbo appear to be a good HC.

That whole team was arguably the best collection of players we've seen since the 01 Miami Hurricanes... wasn't just Winston

[Mac4Lyfe]

I cannot put serious money on FSU right now. That offensive line is an abortion and Francois can’t pass the rock. Even the defense has question marks. They are a no bet until further notice.

[Noles1992]

I don’t know guys I had to grab Cuse +4 this is a train wreck. Like Shocka said that team was loaded mostly all playing in NFL heck think 3 OR 4 on Philadelphia defense last year. Could be lot of points put up if Fsu scores I know Cuse will

[Mac4Lyfe]

That whole team was arguably the best collection of players we've seen since the 01 Miami Hurricanes... wasn't just Winston

The offensive line was leaking oil back then. I don’t know what happened but their line has been horrible ever since. Winston almost got killed behind that line. QBs after him need insurance policies playing with that group. It is a glaring problem.

[ikid2groove415]

Yup. The guy who led them to title. That guy. No Winston = no title a few years back. He made Jimbo appear to be a good HC.

Jimbo coach at FSU for 8 years accumulating an 83-23 record, a 2013 BCS national championship, 3 ACC conference championships, 4 AP Poll top 10 finishes, and 4 bowl game victories. His 0.783 winning percentage is the highest in FSU history among former head coaches.
(That’s not good? They were more then Winston? defense was stealth - already see a difference at A&M

[ByeShea]

another way to put it is FSU has much much better talent.......... but when will that be reflected in their play? probably soon, but maybe not this week

The amount of talent that can be wasted on a dysfunctional team is limitless. FSU offensive line and subsequently it's offense is nonexistent - I'm willing to bet that there's plenty of quit in the seminoles , Taggart is the Matt Patricia of college football.

[Cuse0323]

Time for the Cuse to break out and get that big W that starts their rise to prominence. Take the Orange.

[Venom72]

Fsu or no play, no way in hell id lay money on syracuse in football

[lonegambler23]

never doubt dungey nation

[shocka1212]

Syracuse 1h spread maybe?

For the record, before anyone comes in here insulting me (that asshole from Saturday), trying to get better at capping CFB so shooting ideas around trying to gauge how we look at these games.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Great call I had Syracuse +3.5 love this
Fla st sucks
Coach needs to go wrong fit
Qb is trash
Online is swiss cheese
Run defense is jo where to be seen and secondary is trash

[ikid2groove415]

Perfect example what a dumb Coach can do 2 a elite program - FSU offenses is a joke -They will be like Texas:USC now - good luck finding a elite coach

[shocka1212]

Perfect example what a dumb Coach can do 2 a elite program - FSU offenses is a joke -They will be like Texas:USC now - good luck finding a elite coach

lets just profit off these lines as much as possible...

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Common, this can't really be FlaSt. Gonna get shut out.

[ikid2groove415]

lets just profit off these lines as much as possible...

People shouldn’t ignore that va tech game lol - this is exactly the same performance

[shocka1212]

People shouldn’t ignore that va tech game lol - this is exactly the same performance

been laying eggs for a while now... Francois is clearly not the answer nor is the coach.. time to blow this whole thing up and start from scratch (again)

[jtoler]

this team had to win the last 4 games last year to finish 7-6, so they were 3-6 before that. did you think they'd go 10-3 this year.

[maggiethebestdog]

lets just profit off these lines as much as possible...

Nowhere in this thread do you make a pick or a bet yet you are bumping it like you did and posting lightbulbs
Only at SBR

[ikid2groove415]

this team had to win the last 4 games last year to finish 7-6, so they were 3-6 before that. did you think they'd go 10-3 this year.

That’s because jimbo knew he was gone