Ladbrokes did not refund my money. Please help

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  • michael777
    SBR MVP
    • 09-20-05
    • 1936

    #36
    get a job son
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    • 19th Hole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-22-09
      • 18845

      #37
      Nice work here by:
      Rudy (Players Advocate)
      Opti (Tireless Mod.)
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      • gopolks
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-16-12
        • 791

        #38
        This reminds me of what happened in New Zealand years ago. A 17 year old kid went into the Christchurch casino (you have to be 18+ to gamble in the New Zealand)

        He won 50 Thousand dollars, when he told them he was only 17, they of course didnt pay.

        He went bitching to the media and said something along the lines of "well they let me in, they should pay me" He came across like he thought the public would support him, the public didnt.

        The casino did refund him, what he spent, even though by law they didnt have to.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #39
          We've seen jackpots withheld in Nevada because the Dad let his kid pull the handle or the girl let her friend pull a few.

          They resort to the security tape to prove the case.

          I haven't heard of it in a while, but it's happened.
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          • CWD
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-22-12
            • 7667

            #40
            rudy burying fools on a Sunday
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            • shari91
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-23-10
              • 32661

              #41
              Hi Tinnou - You've received some great advice here and also I hope you fill out the complaint form if you haven't already but Ladbrokes is a great book and you'll get your deposit back. Although I'll need to close this account now as SBR does not permit registration from anyone under 18 either, best of luck in the future and feel free to return when you're of age.
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              • semibluff
                SBR MVP
                • 04-12-16
                • 1515

                #42
                The op will definitely be paid. Ladbrokes are required by law to void all bets and refund all stakes made by anyone under 18 years of age. They will stringently check to make sure the op is under 18. I would imagine they see more cases of people gambling, losing, and then claiming to be under 18 than winning and being underage. Every action Ladbrokes takes here will probably require authorisation from the regulating body. I doubt Ladbrokes are allowed to send a refund check or mail order to someone under 18 any more than they can pay winnings to someone under 18 without that authorisation. The regulators will be more interested in why Ladbrokes didn't find out the player was under 18 sooner. It's a messy situation and i'm not surprised its taking a long time.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388189

                  #43
                  $50
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                  • slayer14
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-12-13
                    • 22007

                    #44
                    Young man at least you learned a lesson in life here always follow the regulations.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #45
                      Originally posted by CWD
                      rudy burying fools on a Sunday
                      too easy bro
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65086

                        #46
                        is this guy banned?

                        if he didnt fill out a complaint form here yet (and even if he did)

                        i think he should be allowed to post until his money is back
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                        • cashin81
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-10-14
                          • 12946

                          #47
                          if he lost and didnt admit hes underage, would ladbrokes just keep the money without ever knowing
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65086

                            #48
                            Originally posted by cashin81
                            if he lost and didnt admit hes underage, would ladbrokes just keep the money without ever knowing
                            yes

                            ofcourse

                            best thing to do?

                            well most can figure it out
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                            • lonnie55
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-08-16
                              • 2689

                              #49
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              yes

                              ofcourse
                              I'm not so sure of that. Given that it was a small deposit I guess they would just refund it to avoid the risk of any fines by UK regulation.
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65086

                                #50
                                Originally posted by lonnie55
                                I'm not so sure of that. Given that it was a small deposit I guess they would just refund it to avoid the risk of any fines by UK regulation.
                                if there is no cash out, the book just keeps the money and the person just accepts the loss
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                                • lonnie55
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-08-16
                                  • 2689

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                  if there is no cash out, the book just keeps the money and the person just accepts the loss
                                  Probably but wouldn't be legal
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65086

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by lonnie55
                                    Probably but wouldn't be legal
                                    ofcourse not

                                    but it is a good freeroll for the books to claim ignorance
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65086

                                      #53
                                      if sportsbooks wanted to protect the customer, verified identity should happen on deposits

                                      not when someone wants to cash out
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 60760

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        if sportsbooks wanted to protect the customer, verified identity should happen on deposits

                                        not when someone wants to cash out
                                        Ladbrokes do do that.

                                        They use an ID verification company that matches signup info to electoral rolls and other public info.

                                        If they verify you electronically like that, and you then use a card to deposit, or withdraw to a bank account in the right name, you earn enough "points" to be IDed without doing more.

                                        If you don't pass the initial e-test, as you may have just moved home for example, then Ladbrokes will give you an alert when you log in that extra ID is needed within 30 days. This might be a passport, power bill, etc.

                                        If they are not satisfied with that, you can end up having to send selfies or go through Skype interviews.


                                        Books may not "want" to protect customers, but in legal jurisdictions it already costs them millions in fines not irregularly for cocking it up.

                                        As someone esle said above, if they could not just return the deposit to the card used, they are probably in a legal quandary about how to pay him back. It's likely illegal fro them to just send an under 18yo money in a way not covered by their license.
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65086

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                          Ladbrokes do do that.

                                          They use an ID verification company that matches signup info to electoral rolls and other public info.

                                          If they verify you electronically like that, and you then use a card to deposit, or withdraw to a bank account in the right name, you earn enough "points" to be IDed without doing more.

                                          If you don't pass the initial e-test, as you may have just moved home for example, then Ladbrokes will give you an alert when you log in that extra ID is needed within 30 days. This might be a passport, power bill, etc.

                                          If they are not satisfied with that, you can end up having to send selfies or go through Skype interviews.


                                          Books may not "want" to protect customers, but in legal jurisdictions it already costs them millions in fines not irregularly for cocking it up.

                                          As someone esle said above, if they could not just return the deposit to the card used, they are probably in a legal quandary about how to pay him back. It's likely illegal fro them to just send an under 18yo money in a way not covered by their license.
                                          how did this guy make it through?
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 60760

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                            how did this guy make it through?
                                            I don't know, or know how long he lasted.

                                            But he didn't make it through or he wouldn't be here.

                                            It seems to take up to 3 days for initial verification stuff to happen at UK books. Before they ask for more ID if needed.
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65086

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              I don't know, or know how long he lasted.

                                              But he didn't make it through or he wouldn't be here.

                                              It seems to take up to 3 days for initial verification stuff to happen at UK books. Before they ask for more ID if needed.
                                              he hit 1 play and tried cashing out

                                              so you are probably right on the 3 days

                                              do you think he was that stupid and didnt realize had to be over 18? had to be

                                              why else would he send an UNDER 18 ID

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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 60760

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                he hit 1 play and tried cashing out

                                                so you are probably right on the 3 days

                                                do you think he was that stupid and didnt realize had to be over 18? had to be

                                                why else would he send an UNDER 18 ID



                                                I think he said he was in Holland? Liberal utopia probably allows everything at 16!
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                                                • ByeShea
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                  • 8050

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Tinnou Djalis
                                                  I made a huge mistake trying to bet under 18.
                                                  So, I deposited 50 euro's to the ladbrokes site and tried to bet. I won some money and I tried to withdraw the money. Unfortunately I couldn't withdraw the money because I needed to give them my ID. I gave them my ID and they said that I was to young to play on the site and that therefore my account would be closed and their Payments department would refund back to my card the full deposit/s made whilst my account was open. So I waited, and waited... But I never got the money. I contacted them telling them I didn't get refunded and they asked me if I could send them my bank info so they could refund me my money. I did what they asked me to do and I waited again... Two weeks later I and I still didn't get refunded. So, I contacted them again a second time. I got the same message and they also assured me they would refund me my money this time. So I gave them my bank info again and waited again... Two weeks later I'm writing this and I don't know what to do. What can I do to get my money back. Please help me..
                                                  Under 18? I can and will help you, but need to get to know you a little first. Let's go camping.
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                                                  • INVEGA MAN
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-30-08
                                                    • 6791

                                                    #60
                                                    This is Obama"s and Hillary"s fault. Get a hold of Trump. He will get your money back
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