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  • SEAHAWKHARRY
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 11-29-07
    • 26068

    #1
    Hedge question Croatia
    I took Croatia +1200 back a few weeks ago June 29th ok so it's a decent bet 50 for 600 I'm small time so it's a good one if it hits. So anyway
    1.Do I even hedge as if Croatia advances no Guarentee France loses
    2. Hedge on England to advance ?
    Again no Guarantee Croatia will advance and beat france.
    Now I am hearing and saw for myself that Croatia is a bit winded and may not have what it takes to finish And that England has some depth and have a bit more Stamina
    Please respond with some advice thanks
    Trolls welcome ..
    Harry
  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #2
    Harry watch the game. Good night
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    • bababoyee
      SBR Hustler
      • 04-10-18
      • 90

      #3
      Harry, England wins in it all.
      From that perspective, I think hedging is a good idea
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      • Al Masters
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-29-06
        • 6940

        #4
        No time to hedge sit and watch your
        future bet,as it’s looking good.

        if you lose you lose $50 big deal.

        If they advance then come back with the same thread.

        Also your personal situation has to come
        into play,if you’re totally barreled in and haven’t
        fed the kids in the last few days then you may
        want to bet $155 Eng to qualify.

        If England wins you profit $50
        If Croatia wins your 12 to 1 future
        is now down to 3-1.

        Id sooner let the kids go another day
        or two without eating.

        You May also want to consider completely
        abandoning the hedging idea and bet
        Croatia tomorrow.. go for the filet mignon.
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        • semibluff
          SBR MVP
          • 04-12-16
          • 1515

          #5
          You're not really in a position to hedge. You could bet 390 on France at -150 and 186 on England at +250 but that would mean investing a total of 626, (including the 50 you've already bet on Croatia), to guarantee a return of 650. If you're small-time to the point that 650 is a big result then i'm not sure finding another 576 to bet is a good option for you. (No offence is intended. I'm just going by the math). If your play was to win 24 on a 50 bet you could pretty much have achieved it by betting Croatia to advance past Russia at -175. As it is you've bet on Croatia to advance past both Denmark and Russia so you've free-rolled yourself on the Denmark game. I think you're in a tough spot because I don't like Croatia's chances against either of the remaining teams they'll have to beat. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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          • flakeandbake
            SBR MVP
            • 06-21-10
            • 3672

            #6
            $50 on England -.5 (pick). $50 over .5,1 goals for the game for Croatia (if your book offers) would be a decent play for you. But I'm honestly betting on a 0-0 game and would let your future ride and do something similar to what I just said if they played France
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            • goduke
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-17-10
              • 11580

              #7
              300 on England to qualify. If Croatia wins 300 on France in the finals . Your futures bet is dead. Do the right move here. No hedge, just consider your Croatia future as your break even if both bets were to lose. But that’s not going to happen, Croatia is not going to be represented as the World Cup champion lets be real.
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              • SEAHAWKHARRY
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 11-29-07
                • 26068

                #8
                Originally posted by Al Masters
                No time to hedge sit and watch your
                future bet,as it’s looking good.

                if you lose you lose $50 big deal.

                If they advance then come back with the same thread.

                Also your personal situation has to come
                into play,if you’re totally barreled in and haven’t
                fed the kids in the last few days then you may
                want to bet $155 Eng to qualify.

                If England wins you profit $50
                If Croatia wins your 12 to 1 future
                is now down to 3-1.

                Id sooner let the kids go another day
                or two without eating.

                You May also want to consider completely
                abandoning the hedging idea and bet
                Croatia tomorrow.. go for the filet mignon.
                No nothing like that I sports bet as entertainment I have a full time job as a Electrician .I do ok the gambling is just something to add to my enjoyment of sports.
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                • USCPHILLYGUY
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-15-12
                  • 21746

                  #9
                  Since harry has turned pro has he lost
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65084

                    #10
                    Books love guys like Harry

                    Never win a futures bet, then hedge at the first chance he gets and pisses away all of his value

                    If you had put $50 on them to advance, win round of 16, and round of 8, double up each time...probably would've been 6 to 1. You could've had a 12 to 1 just on this game alone had you done it that way

                    Instead you are now looking at 3 to 1 if u hedge both these

                    Clown show

                    Learn something
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                    • ikid2groove415
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-08-18
                      • 11981

                      #11
                      My inside sources says England wins by atleast 2 GOALS
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                      • SEAHAWKHARRY
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 11-29-07
                        • 26068

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                        Books love guys like Harry

                        Never win a futures bet, then hedge at the first chance he gets and pisses away all of his value

                        If you had put $50 on them to advance, win round of 16, and round of 8, double up each time...probably would've been 6 to 1. You could've had a 12 to 1 just on this game alone had you done it that way

                        Instead you are now looking at 3 to 1 if u hedge both these

                        Clown show

                        Learn something
                        Have been winning in WC play actually bet against Brazil argentinia have ridden England Croatia every round as well so again Rudy stop being a ASS
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65084

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                          Have been winning in WC play actually bet against Brazil argentinia have ridden England Croatia every round as well so again Rudy stop being a ASS
                          That's the problem with you

                          You can't take constructive criticism, only $100
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                          • SEAHAWKHARRY
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 11-29-07
                            • 26068

                            #14
                            Put 155 on England to advance have funny feeling my future ends here. Taking my winnings from Kershaw and Dodger win Monday ..had a post on that in Diggitys thread. So I'm doing well. Playing on Books money now 4 figure account started with 100 Last NFL Season
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                            • firedawg
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 10-08-08
                              • 39219

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              Books love guys like Harry

                              Never win a futures bet, then hedge at the first chance he gets and pisses away all of his value

                              If you had put $50 on them to advance, win round of 16, and round of 8, double up each time...probably would've been 6 to 1. You could've had a 12 to 1 just on this game alone had you done it that way

                              Instead you are now looking at 3 to 1 if u hedge both these

                              Clown show

                              Learn something
                              Exactly
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                              • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 11-29-07
                                • 26068

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                That's the problem with you

                                You can't take constructive criticism, only $100
                                Haha Rudy you are a True Keyboard warrior ..any chance you coming to Vegas pal.
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                                • RudyRuetigger
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-24-10
                                  • 65084

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                  Haha Rudy you are a True Keyboard warrior ..any chance you coming to Vegas pal.
                                  What?

                                  I didn't help you today, but for the next 10-60 years ur alive I'll have saved you thousands

                                  Maybe just thank me?
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                                  • maritsa1819
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 06-14-18
                                    • 853

                                    #18
                                    You didn't win anything yet. Just leave it and hedge if Croatia is 1-0 in the final
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by firedawg
                                      Exactly
                                      Dawgy I wonder if I can write this off taxes for helping the mentally challenged?
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                                      • firedawg
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 10-08-08
                                        • 39219

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        Dawgy I wonder if I can write this off taxes for helping the mentally challenged?
                                        Let’s look into it Rudy
                                        Some guys just refuse to learn
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                                        • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 11-29-07
                                          • 26068

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                          What?

                                          I didn't help you today, but for the next 10-60 years ur alive I'll have saved you thousands

                                          Maybe just thank me?
                                          Yes Rudy I want to thank you in Vegas pal..buy ya a few rounds you know with that hundred. No really let's hook up so you can teach me a thing or two. Looking forward to it.
                                          I am up 450 in world cup play
                                          I tossed 155 on England to advance
                                          If Croatia wins I'll hedge out still up
                                          Just not with all value ..which I understand but I like being positive so coming out ahead is good for me.
                                          I unlike a lot here don't blow it all on wagers I'm a 20$- 50 a play guy
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #22
                                            good to see you have enough to pay philly back

                                            i know if someone had to fukkin give me $100, id play every poker tourney, etc etc to make sure i send 4k points back

                                            to each their own

                                            keep on winning bro
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                                            • DOM_Toretto
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-28-13
                                              • 9035

                                              #23
                                              Harry I’m in exact same position. No value hedging. Croatia is the much better team, with a handful of elite players; albeit not fresh at all. England has only 1 elite player but probably has better legs at this point.

                                              Just count on the adrenaline and ride Croatia.

                                              Win or lose, next game is when you hedge on France. France much better than England and France peaking at the exact right time.
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                                              • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-15-12
                                                • 21746

                                                #24
                                                Rudy in rare form today. Both here & in the saloon
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                                                • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 11-29-07
                                                  • 26068

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                  good to see you have enough to pay philly back

                                                  i know if someone had to fukkin give me $100, id play every poker tourney, etc etc to make sure i send 4k points back

                                                  to each their own

                                                  keep on winning bro
                                                  You really don't know the story.
                                                  No one had to do shit
                                                  I am a working family man
                                                  I never asked for crap
                                                  Me and philly go back a ways on here
                                                  And letting this story drag on has been laughs . So keep throwing it out there it definitely needed legs. Rudy.
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                                                  • gauchojake
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 09-17-10
                                                    • 34116

                                                    #26
                                                    Rudy give us some futures so that we can see how it's done
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                                                    • infamousbacardi
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-16-08
                                                      • 4556

                                                      #27
                                                      "Small time" or not, you can't hedge a $50 bet to win $600. I don't see Croatia winning in regulation today nor getting by France if they somehow do or advance in ET...but, at that stake you may as well let it ride and hope for something crazy.

                                                      If your desperate, otherwise, maybe put like $100 on England to win the Cup...they were like 11/4 (2.75) last time I saw before yesterday's match. $100 bet will return small profit between the two bets and you are guaranteed a rooting interest for Final.
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                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                        • 65084

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                        Rudy give us some futures so that we can see how it's done
                                                        jake its really common sense

                                                        bet NO FUTURES

                                                        EXCEPT FOR long shots you think have a chance in MLB or NBA that will spend money at the trade deadline

                                                        PERIOD

                                                        you are basically flushing money away with futures otherwise

                                                        OK?
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                          Rudy in rare form today. Both here & in the saloon
                                                          i am here to help

                                                          why am i always a bad guy?


                                                          MAIN STREAM media POSTERS spreading fake news
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                                                          • tony_come
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-31-10
                                                            • 21695

                                                            #30
                                                            Rudy-make America great again!
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                                                            • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-15-12
                                                              • 21746

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                              i am here to help

                                                              why am i always a bad guy?


                                                              MAIN STREAM media POSTERS spreading fake news
                                                              Rudy regardless of your comments more times than not I find myself laughing at your post. Even when about me. Gotta respect that
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                                                              • CWD
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-22-12
                                                                • 7665

                                                                #32
                                                                if Croatia goes to final will be nowhere near a pick em

                                                                You will end up having to lay heavy juice with France not sure you might end up +50$ tops if you're lucky
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                                                                • 7deuceoff$uit
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-08-16
                                                                  • 2212

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                                  I took Croatia +1200 back a few weeks ago June 29th ok so it's a decent bet 50 for 600 I'm small time so it's a good one if it hits. So anyway
                                                                  1.Do I even hedge as if Croatia advances no Guarentee France loses
                                                                  2. Hedge on England to advance ?
                                                                  Again no Guarantee Croatia will advance and beat france.
                                                                  Now I am hearing and saw for myself that Croatia is a bit winded and may not have what it takes to finish And that England has some depth and have a bit more Stamina
                                                                  Please respond with some advice thanks
                                                                  Trolls welcome ..
                                                                  Harry
                                                                  Did the same with 48 pts at +1200. Let's cash this!!!
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Let it ride and enjoy the action harry! That what I’m doing w my England future, if they win here maybe I’ll hedge to get my money back on France but rather just have the rooting interest on a side. Hedging kills the value of a good play, let it ride and enjoy!!
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                                                                    • stackz125
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-03-16
                                                                      • 6191

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Harold whatever you do
                                                                      Dont let the book fuk u
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