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  • turkkatarian
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    • 02-12-16
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    #1
    Can Somebody Help Me with NBA Players Salary Question?
    Guys I wanna Ask, HOW THE HECK DO THESE NBA TEAMS Pay These Players So Much God Dam Money Hundreds of Millions Over and Over And Over?? Even Scrubs are Getting Paid Ridic Money!

    Question 2. Where does the Money Come From?? Us dumb Fans or Where??

    Question 3. Doesn't this Crazy Money Ruin the Integrity of the Sport? What's the incentive to Bust Your ass when you know you Have a Guaranteed 5 Years $150 million Win Lose Or Draw No Matter What. Its Like WTF!!

    There is No Way These Jerks deserve that kind of Money. How do these teams turn a Profit?? Are us fans really That Dumb??
  • Grits n' Gravy
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    • 06-10-10
    • 13024

    #2
    If the salaries were an issue, the owners wouldn’t pay them. Pro franchises are a license to print money.

    Nba players have a skill set that people pay to watch.
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    • NrmlCurvSurfr
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      #3
      If the employees are compensated that well just imagine the owners...
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      • NrmlCurvSurfr
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        #4
        ...and if the networks are able to pay out so much...think about what those guys are making...
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        • Booya711
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          #5
          Because of dumbfukks that go buy hats, jerseys, socks, anything with the NBA brand and/or teams
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          • bigbubbafade
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            • 08-15-17
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            #6
            ESPN pays the NBA a truckload of money in the name of liberalism. Between $7-8 of every cable subscription goes towards ESPN.

            So, in essence, if you pay for cable, you help pay these salaries.
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            • NrmlCurvSurfr
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              #7
              Originally posted by Booya711
              Because of dumbfukks that go buy hats, jerseys, socks, anything with the NBA brand and/or teams
              got to be a drop in the bucket compared to what the networks pay out...think about it, EVERYONE has cable tv(not me i have never given them a dime)...but normal people have cable, tons of money flowing in
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              • jtoler
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                #8
                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                If the employees are compensated that well just imagine the owners...
                nobody ever talk about the money the owners must be making its always about the players
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                • krk1030
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                  • 08-13-08
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                  #9
                  Its pretty Damn simple...12 guys on a team compared to 25 and 54 for mlb and NFL.

                  Of course they are going to make more indidivudlaly.

                  Or would you rather billionaire owners just pocket more...
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                  • Chi_archie
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                    • 07-22-08
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                    #10
                    television, bro, televison

                    anyone remember how much that old racist clipper owner got paid when he was forced to sell his franchise?


                    Here's a comparison of how the NBA deal stacks up against the other North American pro sports:
                    League Broadcaster Length Contract
                    NBA ABC, ESPN, TNT To 2024-25 $24 billion
                    NHL Rogers (Canada)
                    NBC, Versus (U.S.)
                    To 2025
                    To 2023
                    $5.2 billion
                    $2 billion
                    NFL Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN To 2022 $27 billion
                    MLB Fox, TBS, ESPN To 2012 $12.4 billion
                    MLS TSN (Canada)
                    ESPN, Fox Sports (U.S.)
                    To 2016
                    To 2022
                    Not published
                    $600 million
                    CFL TSN, RDS To 2018 $150-180 million

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                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                      • 06-10-10
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                      television, bro, televison

                      anyone remember how much that old racist clipper owner got paid when he was forced to sell his franchise?


                      Here's a comparison of how the NBA deal stacks up against the other North American pro sports:
                      League Broadcaster Length Contract
                      NBA ABC, ESPN, TNT To 2024-25 $24 billion
                      NHL Rogers (Canada)
                      NBC, Versus (U.S.)
                      To 2025
                      To 2023
                      $5.2 billion
                      $2 billion
                      NFL Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN To 2022 $27 billion
                      MLB Fox, TBS, ESPN To 2012 $12.4 billion
                      MLS TSN (Canada)
                      ESPN, Fox Sports (U.S.)
                      To 2016
                      To 2022
                      Not published
                      $600 million
                      CFL TSN, RDS To 2018 $150-180 million

                      Hockey is a 3rd world sport based on tv contracts.
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                      • dlowilly
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                        • 11-09-16
                        • 13862

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigbubbafade
                        ESPN pays the NBA a truckload of money in the name of liberalism. Between $7-8 of every cable subscription goes towards ESPN.

                        So, in essence, if you pay for cable, you help pay these salaries.
                        This

                        The vast majority of those who pay for these salaries never watch them play

                        It's bad business and the cable companies are starting to pay for it. It will correct itself and then the party will be over
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                        • turkkatarian
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                          #13
                          But isn't it about WINNING?????? I'm seeing a WHOLE BUNCH of SCRUBS Cashing Out HUGGGE Contracts GUARANTEED and their god dam teams are in in the LOTTERY every year with No Playoff Chances in Sight. Its Like WTF?? So winning Doesn't Matter???
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                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by turkkatarian
                            But isn't it about WINNING?????? I'm seeing a WHOLE BUNCH of SCRUBS Cashing Out HUGGGE Contracts GUARANTEED and their god dam teams are in in the LOTTERY every year with No Playoff Chances in Sight. Its Like WTF?? So winning Doesn't Matter???
                            its not about winning...the game can't be played without players. Win or lose, good or bad, viewers are still watching(paying) so the show must go on...
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                            • turkkatarian
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jtoler
                              nobody ever talk about the money the owners must be making its always about the players
                              Yeah but The Owners Are The Ones Who TOOK the Chance way back when on buying a Franchise. Thats why it never bothers me when the owners make the Money. But it IRKS me to Shizz when Scrubs get Paid Like Mad for Being a LOSING Product.
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                              • turkkatarian
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                its not about winning...the game can't be played without players. Win or lose, good or bad, viewers are still watching(paying) so the show must go on...
                                So you are saying is that Every Parent should want their son to be a Basketball Player instead of a Doctor/Lawyer/Surgeon/Teacher etc etc. I Find it Hard to fathom a mediocre Basketball player on a Losing Team making More then 100 Neurosurgeon Doctors combined.
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                                • dlowilly
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                                  • 11-09-16
                                  • 13862

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                  its not about winning...the game can't be played without players. Win or lose, good or bad, viewers are still watching(paying) so the show must go on...
                                  But they aren't watching and they aren't generating that income so it's some sort of perverted trickle up wealth redistribution

                                  Game can't be played without players but those same players would play for much less. At the very least that extra money should go to cable company shareholders.
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                                  • dlowilly
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                                    • 11-09-16
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                    Yeah but The Owners Are The Ones Who TOOK the Chance way back when on buying a Franchise. Thats why it never bothers me when the owners make the Money. But it IRKS me to Shizz when Scrubs get Paid Like Mad for Being a LOSING Product.
                                    Exactly right

                                    It would be one thing if people were paying all that to watch them but it's actually just an underhanded money grab from non fans

                                    Don't hold your breath for any knees to be taken and protests to be held over it though
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                                    • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                      So you are saying is that Every Parent should want their son to be a Basketball Player instead of a Doctor/Lawyer/Surgeon/Teacher etc etc. I Find it Hard to fathom a mediocre Basketball player on a Losing Team making More then 100 Neurosurgeon Doctors combined.
                                      do some research on where all that money is coming from and it will be a little more clear...look at the numbers involved, the salaries make perfect sense. If there were ever a nationally televised neurosurgeon pro league that generated billions of dollars a year, then thats when you will see neurosurgeons making similar money to todays pro athletes...
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                                      • Chi_archie
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                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        the market bears what the market can bear

                                        free market capitalism

                                        this isn't about debating whether a neuro surgeon, teacher, sports star, or stripper is paid appropriately in proportion to the value they each contribute to society.

                                        that is a different conversation
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                                        • Venom72
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                                          • 10-05-16
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                                          #21
                                          Don the mlb contracts bother you as well? Talk about overpaying
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                                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                                            But they aren't watching and they aren't generating that income so it's some sort of perverted trickle up wealth redistribution

                                            Game can't be played without players but those same players would play for much less. At the very least that extra money should go to cable company shareholders.
                                            if people weren't paying for cable the tv contracts would not be what they are. With an ever-growing population expect all these "ridiculous" numbers to keep climbing.

                                            I could honestly see NBA, MLB possibly going international at some point, in some form or another. We might see a billion dollar player contract in our lifetime.
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                                            • turkkatarian
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                              do some research on where all that money is coming from and it will be a little more clear...look at the numbers involved, the salaries make perfect sense. If there were ever a nationally televised neurosurgeon pro league that generated billions of dollars a year, then thats when you will see neurosurgeons making similar money to todays pro athletes...
                                              That's My Exact Question. WHERE DO THE NBA OWNERS Get The Money To Pay These PSYCHOTIC Salaries? Where does the Money Come From?
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                                              • dlowilly
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                                                • 11-09-16
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                if people weren't paying for cable the tv contracts would not be what they are. With an ever-growing population expect all these "ridiculous" numbers to keep climbing.

                                                I could honestly see NBA, MLB possibly going international at some point, in some form or another. We might see a billion dollar player contract in our lifetime.
                                                But the distribution of the revenue is highly flawed and this growing population is more familiar with streaming alternatives. So much of the current cable business is older people who aren't interested in figuring out how to switch from cable.

                                                Only reason they can get away with it right now is because there is no a la carte channel offering

                                                I'm not blaming the players of course they should get what they can, but cable subscriptions are plummeting partly because of this crap so it can't last. All this shouldn't be surprising, look at how they prop up the WNBA when the money isn't there
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                                                • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                                  That's My Exact Question. WHERE DO THE NBA OWNERS Get The Money To Pay These PSYCHOTIC Salaries? Where does the Money Come From?
                                                  people paying for TV...that is where the money is coming from... 10's of millions of people spend hundreds if not thousands a year on tv, then the networks get a cut, then they pay gigantic contracts to the leagues for broadcast rights, without players there is no league, so owners hire these guys to play a game that people watch...its actually very simple, not trying to be a dik and maybe you are trolling but i don't see how this is hard to grasp.
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                                                  • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                    But the distribution of the revenue is highly flawed and this growing population is more familiar with streaming alternatives. So much of the current cable business is older people who aren't interested in figuring out how to switch from cable.

                                                    Only reason they can get away with it right now is because there is no a la carte channel offering

                                                    I'm not blaming the players of course they should get what they can, but cable subscriptions are plummeting partly because of this crap so it can't last. All this shouldn't be surprising, look at how they prop up the WNBA when the money isn't there
                                                    that is only good for the consumer...so of course its not offered
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                                                    • dlowilly
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                      that is only good for the consumer...so of course its not offered
                                                      But it is through other services so that's why this money will dry up

                                                      Not many people are going to pay directly to watch the NBA
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                                                      • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                        But the distribution of the revenue is highly flawed and this growing population is more familiar with streaming alternatives. So much of the current cable business is older people who aren't interested in figuring out how to switch from cable.

                                                        Only reason they can get away with it right now is because there is no a la carte channel offering

                                                        I'm not blaming the players of course they should get what they can, but cable subscriptions are plummeting partly because of this crap so it can't last. All this shouldn't be surprising, look at how they prop up the WNBA when the money isn't there
                                                        if viewership continues to rise. networks, owners, cable providers etc will figure out how to profit...it might even streamline the entire operation...rather than charging 100/mo for 200 channels, they can charge 40/mo for 10 channels...the networks profit margin could grow as they are not propping up channels that nobody watches...people don't pay for cable for all the 150 obscure channels, they want sports/big network shows.
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                                                        • dlowilly
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                          if viewership continues to rise. networks, owners, cable providers etc will figure out how to profit...it might even streamline the entire operation...rather than charging 100/mo for 200 channels, they can charge 40/mo for 10 channels...the networks profit margin could grow as they are not propping up channels that nobody watches...people don't pay for cable for all the 150 obscure channels, they want sports/big network shows.
                                                          They can adapt and contort all they want

                                                          If they are making people who don't watch the NBA pay the NBA it's going to correct itself

                                                          It would be even harder to sneak in an NBA airing channel into a 10 channel package too
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                                                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                            But it is through other services so that's why this money will dry up

                                                            Not many people are going to pay directly to watch the NBA
                                                            I do think the industry is going through big changes. But the broadcast rights to these sports will always be for sale. If I'm a cable provider I'm figuring out how to buy every single streaming service on the planet. One way or another the leagues will continue to demand large contracts as long as viewership and sponsorship continues to rise.
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                                                            • dlowilly
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                              I do think the industry is going through big changes. But the broadcast rights to these sports will always be for sale. If I'm a cable provider I'm figuring out how to buy every single streaming service on the planet. One way or another the leagues will continue to demand large contracts as long as viewership and sponsorship continues to rise.
                                                              I just don't see it

                                                              These big contracts are the result of poorly managed, faltering companies way overpaying for rights. They will either learn from those mistakes or go out of business.
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                                                              • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                                I do think the industry is going through big changes. But the broadcast rights to these sports will always be for sale. If I'm a cable provider I'm figuring out how to buy every single streaming service on the planet. One way or another the leagues will continue to demand large contracts as long as viewership and sponsorship continues to rise.
                                                                one idea i had a while back...if I'm a cable provider, I would figure out how to be an internet provider(many companies have been doing this for a long time)...why own the boat when you can own the ocean...
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                                                                • rm18
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                                                                  • 09-20-05
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Whats sick is there is like no difference in talent between the guys who get 18 million and 2 million. Or a scrub like Joe Harris and a good player like Will Barton get the same money.

                                                                  Biyombo gets 18 million Jeff Green 2.5 makes sense.
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                                                                  • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    The real money here is made through advertising...that is the main thing to consider. Sports is just the bait used to reel in the viewer...i don't think the platform really matters all that much in the long run. Companies will either find a different bait, or find a new way to deliver it..as long as people are biting, poles are in the water and companies will continue to innovate or die.

                                                                    NBA and MLB are tasty baits. I think they will be around for a while and continue to demand a high price as long as they keep attracting people.
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                                                                    • jtoler
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                                                      Yeah but The Owners Are The Ones Who TOOK the Chance way back when on buying a Franchise. Thats why it never bothers me when the owners make the Money. But it IRKS me to Shizz when Scrubs get Paid Like Mad for Being a LOSING Product.
                                                                      who cares about winning and losing really when youre still making boatloads, youre only 1 team amongst 30+ if you win great if not well the odds were against it, its a show, entertainment. this is nothing but the old roman coliseum. all in all it was created to be a distraction.
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