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  • franz555
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-13-14
    • 10823

    #1
    Knockout Rounds - Portugal vs Uruguay - Spain vs Russia - Lets Talk
    Awaiting lines. Would love to hear what they might be ? Thoughts ?

    I am probably backing Uruguay DNB if i am right about public perception. Its a " Ronaldo thing ", that creates crazy lines. Its a team game and i think Uruguay are the more polished side right now. Willing to sprinkle moneyline as well , if the price is right.

    Spain will pound Russia imo. Would love to see a decent price at -1. May consider - 1.5. Not really impressed with Spain to date, but they are a HUGE step above Russia and its crunch time.


    All positive input is appreciated........
  • MMANick
    SBR MVP
    • 12-06-16
    • 4075

    #2
    I'm with you. I like Uruguay and Spain in these matchups.
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    • franz555
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-13-14
      • 10823

      #3
      Originally posted by MMANick
      I'm with you. I like Uruguay and Spain in these matchups.
      Appreciate any lines that you see

      Thanks
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      • shadymcgrady
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-27-12
        • 10036

        #4
        Uruguay. It's clear they were sand bagging early on and building momentum for this run now
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Too early too comment

          Portugal has zero shot
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #6
            Uruguay (To Advance)
            0 -108
            Portugal (To Advance)
            0 -102

            11.00
            Uruguay
            +189
            0 -102
            Over 2
            +100
            Under 2
            -111
            Portugal
            +184
            0 -106
            Draw
            +202
            Sun 01/07 Soccer FIFA - World Cup Odds
            07.00
            Spain (To Advance)
            0 -367
            Russia (To Advance)
            0 +319

            07.00
            Spain
            -164
            -0.5 and -1 -126
            Over 2 and 2.5
            +100
            Under 2 and 2.5
            -111
            Russia
            +573
            +0.5 and +1 +114
            Draw
            +285
            Soccer - rules
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            • cincinnatikid513
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-23-17
              • 45360

              #7
              been waiting all world cup refs hook russia up w a penalty or red card maybe they are saving it for spain game
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              • lakerboy
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-02-09
                • 94379

                #8
                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                been waiting all world cup refs hook russia up w a penalty or red card maybe they are saving it for spain game
                Spain world cup favorites. Books know more
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                • Slipknot26
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-17-15
                  • 5046

                  #9
                  Betonline

                  Uruguay +169
                  Portugal +176
                  Draw +197

                  Spain -167
                  Mother Russia +500
                  Draw +255

                  Expect Uruguay and Spain to win IMO
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                  • cincinnatikid513
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-23-17
                    • 45360

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                    Spain world cup favorites. Books know more
                    books cant predict the russian desire win at all cost
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                    • franz555
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-13-14
                      • 10823

                      #11
                      Just bet :

                      Uruguay @ 2.80
                      DNB @ 1.98

                      Spain -1 @ 2.17

                      I feel confident that these lines will drop before the weekend hits
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                      • franz555
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-13-14
                        • 10823

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                        books cant predict the russian desire win at all cost
                        They really arent that good. They showed some serious emotion and desire against Saudi Arabia ( cameo appearances for key players of Saudi ). Beat Egypt with plenty of mistakes made by their back 4. Today they were exactly the team that everyone thought they were coming into this World Cup ......1 win in 10 games and looking horrible. I will take my chances with the depth of Spain to expose them for the average team they are. Desire cant replace talent. ( And coach Hererro should replace Costa with Aspach ).
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                        • franz555
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-13-14
                          • 10823

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          Uruguay (To Advance)
                          0 -108
                          Portugal (To Advance)
                          0 -102

                          11.00
                          Uruguay
                          +189
                          0 -102
                          Over 2
                          +100
                          Under 2
                          -111
                          Portugal
                          +184
                          0 -106
                          Draw
                          +202
                          Sun 01/07 Soccer FIFA - World Cup Odds
                          07.00
                          Spain (To Advance)
                          0 -367
                          Russia (To Advance)
                          0 +319

                          07.00
                          Spain
                          -164
                          -0.5 and -1 -126
                          Over 2 and 2.5
                          +100
                          Under 2 and 2.5
                          -111
                          Russia
                          +573
                          +0.5 and +1 +114
                          Draw
                          +285
                          Soccer - rules
                          Thanks Laker
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                          • cincinnatikid513
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-23-17
                            • 45360

                            #14
                            little concerned all the goals spain are allowing
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                            • Blackballer
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                              • 07-12-14
                              • 1117

                              #15
                              Originally posted by franz555
                              Awaiting lines. Would love to hear what they might be ? Thoughts ?

                              I am probably backing Uruguay DNB if i am right about public perception. Its a " Ronaldo thing ", that creates crazy lines. Its a team game and i think Uruguay are the more polished side right now. Willing to sprinkle moneyline as well , if the price is right.

                              Spain will pound Russia imo. Would love to see a decent price at -1. May consider - 1.5. Not really impressed with Spain to date, but they are a HUGE step above Russia and its crunch time.


                              All positive input is appreciated........
                              The first pick that comes to my mind in Portugal vs Uruguay is both teams to score. Portugal's backline haven't fully convinced me yet in this tournament. At times they look really shaky, especially during corners and free-kicks.
                              Uruguay as we know is really dangerous when it comes to set-pieces with Cavani and Godin. Suarez also converted a free-kick today vs Russia.

                              Uruguay has a strong defense, not allowed a single goal in their group stages but with Ronaldo and maybe 2-3 others good players for Portugal who can be a goal threat against Uruguay, I can see Portugal to find the back of the net in this matchup as well.

                              First thought for the matchup.
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                              • Blackballer
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-12-14
                                • 1117

                                #16
                                Originally posted by franz555
                                Just bet :

                                Uruguay @ 2.80
                                DNB @ 1.98

                                Spain -1 @ 2.17

                                I feel confident that these lines will drop before the weekend hits
                                I think the Spain line drop will faster than the Uruguay line since most of the tipster, sports bettors and the public will say this: Russia beat two easy opponents easily (Egypt and Saudia Arabia) but when it comes to the better teams (like Uruguay) they can't keep up with them. Spain is a level above Uruguay to most people, so I think fading Russia will reflect in the line dropping quicker.

                                Uruguay is tougher bc Portugal is the Euro Champion 2016 and they have Ronaldo on their squad,plus the draw vs Iran came through a penalty, think some people will have this in mind, Spain barely beat Iran 1:0 so Iran is a though opponent bc they defend till the last minute.
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                                • bhoor
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-17-12
                                  • 2256

                                  #17
                                  Russia will beat Spain.

                                  Portugal/Uruguay is a coin toss.
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                                  • franz555
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-13-14
                                    • 10823

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Blackballer
                                    The first pick that comes to my mind in Portugal vs Uruguay is both teams to score. Portugal's backline haven't fully convinced me yet in this tournament. At times they look really shaky, especially during corners and free-kicks.
                                    Uruguay as we know is really dangerous when it comes to set-pieces with Cavani and Godin. Suarez also converted a free-kick today vs Russia.

                                    Uruguay has a strong defense, not allowed a single goal in their group stages but with Ronaldo and maybe 2-3 others good players for Portugal who can be a goal threat against Uruguay, I can see Portugal to find the back of the net in this matchup as well.

                                    First thought for the matchup.
                                    Uruguay havent conceded a goal in 6 straight now. I am a firm believer in " The trend IS your friend ". That back line is so stellar, with proven players like Godin and Gimenez ( both at A. Madrid ) ....Caceres @ Lazio who is the rock of that backline. If you believe that " Defence wins Championships "......
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                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-23-17
                                      • 45360

                                      #19
                                      will take uruguay to advance, could be a very ugly low scoring game 0-0 1-0 1-1 extra time
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                                      • franz555
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-13-14
                                        • 10823

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                        will take uruguay to advance, could be a very ugly low scoring game 0-0 1-0 1-1 extra time
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                                        • Thrilla
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-10-15
                                          • 13809

                                          #21
                                          Uruguay - Portugal over 2 goals
                                          Uruguay pk
                                          Spain - Russia under 2.5
                                          Russia +1 AH
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                                          • Blackballer
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-12-14
                                            • 1117

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bhoor
                                            Russia will beat Spain.

                                            Portugal/Uruguay is a coin toss.
                                            you think so? please tell us why!
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                                            • Blackballer
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-12-14
                                              • 1117

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                              will take uruguay to advance, could be a very ugly low scoring game 0-0 1-0 1-1 extra time
                                              I also see a 1-1 and extras here, but main pick would be both teams to score in this one, the rest will be decided in extras.
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                                              • cincinnatikid513
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 11-23-17
                                                • 45360

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Blackballer
                                                I also see a 1-1 and extras here, but main pick would be both teams to score in this one, the rest will be decided in extras.
                                                uruguay have given up 0 goals so can't rule out 1-0 or 2-0 win portugal scored 3 in the 1st game haven't been lighting it up since then i just favor uruguay to advance much more all around team
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                                                • Blackballer
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-12-14
                                                  • 1117

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by franz555
                                                  Uruguay havent conceded a goal in 6 straight now. I am a firm believer in " The trend IS your friend ". That back line is so stellar, with proven players like Godin and Gimenez ( both at A. Madrid ) ....Caceres @ Lazio who is the rock of that backline. If you believe that " Defence wins Championships "......
                                                  I am not against defense wins championships but defenses also need timely offense to show up when needed after the defense is doing all the work, even if you have 99% of defense you still need that 1% offense to win the game even if it's a 1:0 game or converted penalties after 120 minutes.

                                                  Atletico Madrid is a good example for this they have their defense but most of offense comes from Griezman (usually not every time Griezman). Their game principal is based on a strong defense first.
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                                                  • Thrilla
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                                                    • 03-10-15
                                                    • 13809

                                                    #26
                                                    Staying away from unders in K.O. stage.

                                                    1. It's 2018 soccer science/tactics era
                                                    2. Refereeing in favour of offensive ball.
                                                    3. VAR technology

                                                    Just a early lean on under in Spa - Rus cause the odds are doable.
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                                                    • franz555
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-13-14
                                                      • 10823

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Blackballer
                                                      I am not against defense wins championships but defenses also need timely offense to show up when needed after the defense is doing all the work, even if you have 99% of defense you still need that 1% offense to win the game even if it's a 1:0 game or converted penalties after 120 minutes.

                                                      Atletico Madrid is a good example for this they have their defense but most of offense comes from Griezman (usually not every time Griezman). Their game principal is based on a strong defense first.
                                                      I guess I should have included...... in those 6 straight shutouts....ALL were wins. They don't get involved in shootouts, but Cavani and Suarez have scored a few.
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                                                      • shadymcgrady
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-27-12
                                                        • 10036

                                                        #28
                                                        Uruguay built to win it all. Very reminiscent of the Italian teams that would win 1-0
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                                                        • lakerboy
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-02-09
                                                          • 94379

                                                          #29
                                                          Uruguay winner will lose after.
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                                                          • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                            • 05-15-10
                                                            • 7719

                                                            #30
                                                            Uruguay won't win unless it's on penalty kicks.
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                                                            • Blackballer
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-12-14
                                                              • 1117

                                                              #31
                                                              I just wait for Suarez to do something stupid like in every World Cup he is involved in. Now with the VAR he could be a liabilty for Uruguay in case he does something stupid again because this time they can look it up on the video review. Will be interesting to see if something really happens this time
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                                                              • franz555
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-13-14
                                                                • 10823

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                                                                Uruguay built to win it all. Very reminiscent of the Italian teams that would win 1-0
                                                                Agreed

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                                                                • shadymcgrady
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-27-12
                                                                  • 10036

                                                                  #33
                                                                  This knockout stage is shaping up to be very intriguing

                                                                  Teams like brazil and Columbia are loaded with talent and appear to be making strides in developing chemistry and familiarity

                                                                  Others like Uruguay, france and Spain alrdy know theor formula and are waiting for the tourney to rly start before they put forth their best effort

                                                                  Last year's darling dark horse Belgium has come out and picked up where the hype left off 4 yrs ago. It'll be interesting to see if they have enough coal left in their reserves to get all the way or not

                                                                  And of course the defending and perhaps greatest storied country ever in terms of world cup success saved by a set piece and a thread in the waning moments of the group stage. Are they awake and focused now?

                                                                  I hope we see a true dog like Senegal make it and play a little more focused and disciplined so that make a deep run
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                                                                  • bhoor
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                                                                    • 12-17-12
                                                                    • 2256

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Blackballer

                                                                    you think so? please tell us why!
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                                                                    • Thrilla
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                                                                      • 03-10-15
                                                                      • 13809

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Thrilla
                                                                      Uruguay - Portugal over 2 goals
                                                                      Uruguay pk
                                                                      Spain - Russia under 2.5
                                                                      Russia +1 AH


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