Casino VP machines payoff better early mornings (5am - 8am)

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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Casino VP machines payoff better early mornings (5am - 8am)
    True? If not... are there better times to play ?
  • ChuckyTheGoat
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-04-11
    • 37475

    #2
    Sammy, I love playing VP at oddball off-hours. Yes, 5am-8am is good. Anything in the 2am to 10am window is good.

    Pretty quiet at those hours. Pet-peeve is casinos that blast the bad music. Palms is guilty of this.
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      thanks Chucky

      Sammy and old lady leaving in 20mins (6am) to test this
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Yes because they know most people will not be playing at those hours only the sharks are out there like Fishhead who has made over 600,000 playing slots
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        • Sam Odom
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-30-05
          • 58063

          #5
          At casino now.... about to eat comped breakfast
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          • tony_come
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-31-10
            • 21695

            #6
            Originally posted by Sam Odom
            At casino now.... about to eat comped breakfast
            What are you having for breakfast, sammmy?
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            • Sam Odom
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-30-05
              • 58063

              #7
              Pic later

              Gotta find wife... hope she is winning
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              • JohnGalt2341
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-31-09
                • 9138

                #8
                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                True? If not... are there better times to play ?
                Does a coin flip better at certain times of the day than at other times?

                My question is... why would the time of the day matter? I know many people will say things like... "because more or less people are playing at that time of the day". That's nonsense. Your percentages are still going to be the same. Does a roulette wheel act differently when it is being spun at different times of the day than at others?
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                  Does a coin flip better at certain times of the day than at other times?

                  My question is... why would the time of the day matter? I know many people will say things like... "because more or less people are playing at that time of the day". That's nonsense. Your percentages are still going to be the same. Does a roulette wheel act differently when it is being spun at different times of the day than at others?
                  You want to argue math while Sammy is arguing human manipulation

                  Who knows if he is right...I say no but again you are clueless as to the actual topic
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                  • JohnGalt2341
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-31-09
                    • 9138

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                    You want to argue math while Sammy is arguing human manipulation

                    Who knows if he is right...I say no but again you are clueless as to the actual topic
                    I did work in a Casino for 4 years if that counts for anything. And for 6 of those months I was a slot machine attendant. But as you say... I am clueless.

                    You're an informative genius and I'm an idiot. We all already know this.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65084

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                      I did work in a Casino for 4 years if that counts for anything. And for 6 of those months I was a slot machine attendant. But as you say... I am clueless.

                      You're an informative genius and I'm an idiot. We all already know this.
                      Again, Sammy is clearly arguing human manipulation of machines while you come in to post coin flips depending on time of day does not matter

                      Your response was fukkin clueless to his post. Admit it and move on instead of trying to now argue another topic
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                      • JohnGalt2341
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-31-09
                        • 9138

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                        Again, Sammy is clearly arguing human manipulation of machines while you come in to post coin flips depending on time of day does not matter

                        Your response was fukkin clueless to his post. Admit it and move on instead of trying to now argue another topic

                        Good luck with that.
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65084

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

                          Good luck with that.
                          why are you laughing at my post?

                          i am telling you what he is arguing not that i agree

                          infact i specifically said i disagreed with him

                          WOW, i bet you are smart...probably a DOCTORATE in liberal arts???
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                          • JohnGalt2341
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-31-09
                            • 9138

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                            why are you laughing at my post?

                            i am telling you what he is arguing not that i agree

                            infact i specifically said i disagreed with him

                            WOW, i bet you are smart...probably a DOCTORATE in liberal arts???
                            Regardless of what Sammy's argument is... I am telling you and him... it almost certainly doesn't matter. If I'm wrong either one or both of you can laugh all the way to the bank. If I'm right I might have just saved you some money.
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                            • BuckyOne
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-02-15
                              • 2728

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                              Does a coin flip better at certain times of the day than at other times?

                              My question is... why would the time of the day matter? I know many people will say things like... "because more or less people are playing at that time of the day". That's nonsense. Your percentages are still going to be the same. Does a roulette wheel act differently when it is being spun at different times of the day than at others?

                              I guess if Sammy keeps track and it works for him - if I were him I would keep doing it. On the other hand, in theory, maybe, a casino could be crooked and very carefully paying out a little at a quiet time to a small amount of players to just get up to barely legal payouts levels. Too much at risk for a regulated casino to ever do this unless they were 100% sure they would never be caught.
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                              • JohnGalt2341
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-31-09
                                • 9138

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BuckyOne
                                I guess if Sammy keeps track and it works for him - if I were him I would keep doing it. On the other hand, in theory, maybe, a casino could be crooked and very carefully paying out a little at a quiet time to a small amount of players to just get up to barely legal payouts levels. Too much at risk for a regulated casino to ever do this unless they were 100% sure they would never be caught.
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                                • RudyRuetigger
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-24-10
                                  • 65084

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                  Regardless of what Sammy's argument is... I am telling you and him... it almost certainly doesn't matter. If I'm wrong either one or both of you can laugh all the way to the bank. If I'm right I might have just saved you some money.
                                  like i said, you were completely wrong in your 1st post

                                  i corrected you as to what sammy is arguing

                                  you continue to lump me in with sammy when it is clearly noted i do not agree with him

                                  just admit you were wrong and completely fukked up
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                                  • DrunkHorseplayer
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-15-10
                                    • 7719

                                    #18
                                    If casinos did mess with VP mahines, which they don't, logic would dictate they pay out more during busy times so other gamblers will see others winning and get the bug themselves.
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                                    • Venom72
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-05-16
                                      • 2041

                                      #19
                                      Logically no, time of day shouldn't make any difference at all your chances are still gonna be the same...unless the casinos are messing with them at diffirenent times of the day and i doubt that
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Fishhead lurks in casinos and watches players and waits for them to lose a lot and get frustrated and leave that machine

                                        He then ATTACKS IT and does well
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                                        • JohnGalt2341
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-31-09
                                          • 9138

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                          like i said, you were completely wrong in your 1st post

                                          i corrected you as to what sammy is arguing

                                          you continue to lump me in with sammy when it is clearly noted i do not agree with him

                                          just admit you were wrong and completely fukked up
                                          In the 1st post I asked 3 questions. What exactly was I wrong about? The questions?

                                          Also, why do you feel the need to attack my posts at every chance you get? I know you do it because in your mind it makes you feel stronger... and more powerful... and more specifically you are trying to make me look dumber and weaker. This is a very foolish strategy. Anyone with a brain can see exactly what you are trying to do. And it's not just me... although I know you despise me more than most... and I know why... it's not hard to figure out. Most people on SBR can see right through your terrible illusions. You're like an unskilled magician that can only fool the dumbest of the dumb.
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                                          • VeggieDog
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-21-09
                                            • 7214

                                            #22
                                            My MIL is a slot player, but she won't play in the morning or early afternoon. She says the machines don't pay then.
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                                            • JohnGalt2341
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-31-09
                                              • 9138

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Fishhead lurks in casinos and watches players and waits for them to lose a lot and get frustrated and leave that machine

                                              He then ATTACKS IT and does well
                                              I saw people do this at the Casino I worked at... it's basically like Counting Cards but with a slot machine. The problem is... the slot machine payouts aren't designed to pay out at every 100 pulls or even 1000 pulls. In order for this strategy to work you have to watch the machine for a VERY LONG TIME in most cases for several days minimum... and know it's history and what not. If you only watch a machine for lets say 10 hours... and it's completely dry for those 10 hours... your odds may change by a tiny fraction but overall it's unlikely to make much of a difference at all.

                                              Btw, is Fishhead up or down in slots?
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                                              • Venom72
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-05-16
                                                • 2041

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                I saw people do this at the Casino I worked at... it's basically like Counting Cards but with a slot machine. The problem is... the slot machine payouts aren't designed to pay out at every 100 pulls or even 1000 pulls. In order for this strategy to work you have to watch the machine for a VERY LONG TIME in most cases for several days minimum... and know it's history and what not. If you only watch a machine for lets say 10 hours... and it's completely dry for those 10 hours... your odds may change by a tiny fraction but overall it's unlikely to make much of a difference at all.

                                                Btw, is Fishhead up or down in slots?
                                                Very cool insight your giving bro, i mess with slot machines alot and everything is so random ive yet to find anything that really helps, any tips?? Or is it literally all random luck of the draw?
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                                                • vividjohn45
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-21-10
                                                  • 6331

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Fishhead lurks in casinos and watches players and waits for them to lose a lot and get frustrated and leave that machine

                                                  He then ATTACKS IT and does well
                                                  After that he follows the losing gambler home and peeks in their windows.
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                                                  • JohnGalt2341
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-31-09
                                                    • 9138

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Venom72
                                                    Very cool insight your giving bro, i mess with slot machines alot and everything is so random ive yet to find anything that really helps, any tips?? Or is it literally all random luck of the draw?
                                                    It's been a pretty long time since I worked at a casino so I'm sure many things have changed. All I can tell you is... in the 4 years that I worked at a casino I never once saw a professional slot machine player. Most people have their individual superstitions that they consider "science". Whether any of them actually work or not... well.. I'm skeptical. My advice is only play slot machines if they entertain you. If you're not playing for entertainment it's almost certain that you will be disappointed in the long run.
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                                                    • Venom72
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-05-16
                                                      • 2041

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                      It's been a pretty long time since I worked at a casino so I'm sure many things have changed. All I can tell you is... in the 4 years that I worked at a casino I never once saw a professional slot machine player. Most people have their individual superstitions that they consider "science". Whether any of them actually work or not... well.. I'm skeptical. My advice is only play slot machines if they entertain you. If you're not playing for entertainment it's almost certain that you will be disappointed in the long run.
                                                      Right right, i treat it like playing lotto stratch off tixs, never expect to win big but its fun knowing that it could happen just by playing a few bucks here and there
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                                                      • Grits n' Gravy
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 13024

                                                        #28
                                                        Slot machines don't have different pay tables at different times of the day. Server based gaming had that potential but it was a huge flop. Just another gambler fallacy.

                                                        Fishhead is full of shit about his slot winnings. Getting a free used condom and salt packet from the 4 queens is not +ev.
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                                          .... about to eat comped breakfast

                                                          Originally posted by tony_come

                                                          What are you having for breakfast, sammmy?

                                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                                          Pic later


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                                                          • Sam Odom
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-30-05
                                                            • 58063

                                                            #30
                                                            has to be a way to make $$$ on mechanical horses... gotta be an angle



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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83686

                                                              #31
                                                              Computerized gambling machines always have the advantage.. Good way to piss away your bank roll and get hooked like a junkie playing them..

                                                              I avoid now..
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                                I saw people do this at the Casino I worked at... it's basically like Counting Cards but with a slot machine. The problem is... the slot machine payouts aren't designed to pay out at every 100 pulls or even 1000 pulls. In order for this strategy to work you have to watch the machine for a VERY LONG TIME in most cases for several days minimum... and know it's history and what not. If you only watch a machine for lets say 10 hours... and it's completely dry for those 10 hours... your odds may change by a tiny fraction but overall it's unlikely to make much of a difference at all.

                                                                Btw, is Fishhead up or down in slots?
                                                                up over 600,000 no lie
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                                                                • Grits n' Gravy
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 13024

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  up over 600,000 no lie
                                                                  He’s up over 600k but clips coupons, dumpster dives and begs for free play? Gtfoh. If you believe fishdick is a successful gambler I got some ocean front property In Oklahoma to sell you.
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                                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                                    • 58063

                                                                    #34
                                                                    sent Fishhead a msg

                                                                    he may come in here and straighten many of you out
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                                                                    • JohnGalt2341
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-31-09
                                                                      • 9138

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      up over 600,000 no lie
                                                                      I barely remember Fishhead. I only remember that he seemed like a decent guy but I don't remember how trustworthy he was. Is he the same guy that had won something like a million dollar wager on his sbr spreadsheet?
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