NBA: Did Durant win two titles?

[tony_come]

Lebroom should head to Utah

[kingdom]

Jane harden won MVP. So what?

Lebroom won't win another ring if he doesn't change his game.

would love to see him in Houston with the other 2 playing pg and his only job is to score like KD. I think he would be a devastating SF playing off the ball and getting easy buckets when they double harden.

[JayDr3am]

jane harden

[Pikachu]

Can't wait till next year. There are going to be many players movement. More super teams.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Can't wait till next year. There are going to be many players movement. More super teams.

Should NBA contract? Not much drama w/ a few super-teams.

[Goat Milk]

with all the goat talks lately i went back and watched game 6 of '96 finals on youtube. Pippen was right. MJ's load was not close to Lebron's. Not much different than KD. he had to score. Pippen, Rodman, and Ron Harper all good defenders. MJ 6'6 scottie 6'7 harper 6'6 rodman 6'8 and Longley 7'1. They were huge and great defensively and rebounding. And the 6th man was kukoc. 6'10 and the best european player at the time. With a coach that won 11 titles.
GM and coach matter so much. The ball moves on offense by design. They attacked the lane on defense. no free layups. Lebron and Bird are only players to win 3 titles w/o HOF coaches.

Phil Jackson wouldn't have 11 titles without the 2 greatest players in history.... wtf?

Lebron's team sucks man.... no one is comparing this Cleveland team to Jordan's championship Bulls teams.

There's a reason those Bulls teams won rings....

Lebron had a team like that in Miami... that's why he got 2 rings....

Now he has no chance. Obviously his load will be heavy... Jordan would have had just a heavy a load if his team sucked and he didn't have Pippen. But he did.

Also...just want to say:

Players win rings. Everyone talks about coaches and GMs putting teams together. Yeah. They did well. They did their part. But anyone who plays sports knows that players win games. Players win rings. Players make plays. Players crossover, commit fouls, dunk, make jumpers, set screens, get physical.

Players aren't robots.

There's a reason talent wins.

Great players win big games and great teams win rings.

it's as simple as that bro.

[titanium777]

Phil Jackson wouldn't have 11 titles without the 2 greatest players in history.... wtf?

Lebron's team sucks man.... no one is comparing this Cleveland team to Jordan's championship Bulls teams.

There's a reason those Bulls teams won rings....

Lebron had a team like that in Miami... that's why he got 2 rings....

Now he has no chance. Obviously his load will be heavy... Jordan would have had just a heavy a load if his team sucked and he didn't have Pippen. But he did.

Also...just want to say:

Players win rings. Everyone talks about coaches and GMs putting teams together. Yeah. They did well. They did their part. But anyone who plays sports knows that players win games. Players win rings. Players make plays. Players crossover, commit fouls, dunk, make jumpers, set screens, get physical.

Players aren't robots.

There's a reason talent wins.

Great players win big games and great teams win rings.

it's as simple as that bro.

Talent CAN win rings, but not always. The 2007 pats were much more talented on paper than the NYG, but who was world champ that year?

The 2012 Lakers had alot of talent too.

At the end of the day, players (even elite ones) make errors. Sometimes it comes down to who makes the bigger plays in the clutch moments (ie: David Tyree)

[wikkidinsane]

Same could be said for lebron in miami

It was Different. Lebron didnt go to an already established Nba Champion. When he went to Miami. Miami was getting kicked out of playoffs every year. Bosh came from Raptors to join wade in Miami. My point is, Wade Lebron and BOsh all had to learn to play with each other. Durant came to an already Nba Championship team with Curry Draymond and Klay already there. So no its not the same. Also 4 doesnt equal to 3.


Miamis Record pre Lebron:
2006-2007 - 44–38 - Lost in first rd
2007-2008 record 15–67
2008-2009 43–39 - knocked out first rd playoffs
2009-2010 47–35 - knocked out first rd playoffs

[Goat Milk]

Talent CAN win rings, but not always. The 2007 pats were much more talented on paper than the NYG, but who was world champ that year?

The 2012 Lakers had alot of talent too.

At the end of the day, players (even elite ones) make errors. Sometimes it comes down to who makes the bigger plays in the clutch moments (ie: David Tyree)

First of all, you can't compare NFL to NBA. NFL is a 1 game elimination where anything can happen. Beating a team 4 times out of 7 is a way different story. NFL is a crapshoot. Anyone can win. It's like the NCAA tournament. The best team frequently doesn't win.

2012 Lakers had talent? That team was no where near a title team.

Miami had 2 of the 3 best players in the world. ON ONE TEAM.....

Was gonnna be tough for any team to beat them four times.

Can't believe clueless oddsmakers made them a 2 to 1 underdog in the finals.

[olamide]

If Klay Thompson will just leave it will make the league a lot more competitive.

I hate when I see a suggested solution of such. Warriors are not doing something other teams can't match/exceed. Teams/Fans needs to stop being a lazy bitch and work more on their team. Steph and Klay regressed in my opinion and they could be taken down.
This guys built with the draft for crying out loud. Didn't OKC have the opportunity? Lakers, Celtics, Philly etc all have that opportunity.
I keep saying it, 73 win warriors exceed their ability that year. They needed an alpha to match LeBron.
LeBron is just mad he's not winning the title every year.
Lebron+Kyrie+Love on paper was better than
Curry+Klay. Kyrie/Curry and Love/klay. No one in the warriors was a match for LeBron hence the addition of KD. The only thing that made them better is the system of play and willingness to share.
Fans were even hoping for a Klay for Love trade.

[olamide]

Phil Jackson wouldn't have 11 titles without the 2 greatest players in history.... wtf?

Lebron's team sucks man.... no one is comparing this Cleveland team to Jordan's championship Bulls teams.

There's a reason those Bulls teams won rings....

Lebron had a team like that in Miami... that's why he got 2 rings....

Now he has no chance. Obviously his load will be heavy... Jordan would have had just a heavy a load if his team sucked and he didn't have Pippen. But he did.

Also...just want to say:

Players win rings. Everyone talks about coaches and GMs putting teams together. Yeah. They did well. They did their part. But anyone who plays sports knows that players win games. Players win rings. Players make plays. Players crossover, commit fouls, dunk, make jumpers, set screens, get physical.

Players aren't robots.

There's a reason talent wins.

Great players win big games and great teams win rings.

it's as simple as that bro.

Players win rings agreed but you undermine the contribution of the front office and coach too much.
Cavs had no 1 picks, Kyrie etc. They got LeBron+Kyrie+Love and some smart players in TT, Jefferson, JR Smith. On paper that was a very good team to compete based on their status at the time.
Warriors front office decision to build with draft only birthed Curry+Klay and Green. Then added KD. A gamble that's paying off. Front office contribution.
Now Kerr came as a coach and made some adjustment which makes the warriors system of play more interesting and difficult to beat.
Hard to coach and manage LeBron. He interferes too much both in the front office work and coach. He always had talent around him, difference is........