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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #456
    Originally posted by KVB
    ...Books may be rooting for Montreal to cover tonight, but not to win...
    One more thing, hanging that huge dog moneyline has consequences.

    If Calgary is the play, with all of those numbers pointing that way, then the big line, like I did when it came out, will get hit. And it did get hit.

    They tested the market and settled it back down to 20, but the still need some Montreal bets. So they hold 20, then drop to 19.5 when they are satisfied. But Calgary buyers loved it at that point, the "test market" couldn't contain itself.

    Hmmmm.

    Everyone wants that moneyline. You have to adjust the moneyline down, while keeping the spread high. Because of this, even with the huge spread, you get the superbowl effect.

    There becomes value on the favorite moneyline and on the Underdog Spread. They had to deal with that a bit tonight.

    Even though I say the books might favor Montreal, there is parlay exposure with Montreal and I wouldn't doubt that some of that is teaser exposure with the first game. Whenever you get that many points, you tend to get those bets.
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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #457
      Montreal with the 1-0 lead, already lost the lead.

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      • Hngkng
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-03-15
        • 729

        #458
        Close call with first half under 24.5. Good thing Montreal self destructed in the red zone
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        • Coolcanuck79
          SBR MVP
          • 12-07-11
          • 3189

          #459
          Originally posted by Hngkng
          Close call with first half under 24.5. Good thing Montreal self destructed in the red zone
          Good win!
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #460
            They put that -6.5 out there for second half, everyone was on it and it moved to -7 (-125).

            Pinny, hoping for Montreal action, was willing to keep -6.5 (-132), offering +115 for the other side.

            It's not a lot of volume compared others, but you can see the line and bookmakers hard at work.
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #461
              They tried 23.5 for the second half line, but no one's buying it, literally, and it tanked to 22.5, even under 22 juiced.

              Pinny kept 23.5 and made the Under juiced the whole way.

              Will be funny to see a 23.
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #462
                Calgary never broke 18 points for a lead, and now Montreal is on the board.

                I hope Calgary applies pressure and doesn't just play for a comfortable win.
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                • Hngkng
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-03-15
                  • 729

                  #463
                  These guys........
                  3rd and 1 from their 25, and they do a play action that fails haha.
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #464
                    "The Alouettes have not had a quarterback since Anthony Calvillo, and that was 13 quarterbacks ago."
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 04-04-11
                      • 37103

                      #465
                      This end-game will be interesting. Very much looks like Calgary will milk this drive and play for a 25-8 scoreline.
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • ChuckyTheGoat
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 04-04-11
                        • 37103

                        #466
                        I would say that the Montreal QB change is Shiltz for next week. But he's looked bad, too.

                        Two interceptions. Otherwise, would be a one-score game.
                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #467
                          Becoming the situation where Calgary just doesn't really need to get a TD.

                          If the books wanted Montreal, they just may get their wish after all.

                          It's up to Calgary to make it happen, a team that has covered as a favorite every game this year.

                          They have little incentive on the field and in the market.
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                          • Coolcanuck79
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-07-11
                            • 3189

                            #468
                            Why am I fearing the last 90 seconds of the game with my under 14 MTL TT?
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #469
                              Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                              I would say that the Montreal QB change is Shiltz for next week. But he's looked bad, too.

                              Two interceptions. Otherwise, would be a one-score game.
                              I will say this.

                              Speaking of extremes, the Calgary defensive rating, I would expect, will be approaching some very crazy levels.

                              The could keep pushing opponents towards negative raw scores in the forecast. That can't, and won't, happen for very long.

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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #470
                                Originally posted by Coolcanuck79
                                Why am I fearing the last 90 seconds of the game with my under 14 MTL TT?
                                I was trying not to bring it up.

                                The only thing worse than losing by 17 would be to get another score.
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                                • Hngkng
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-03-15
                                  • 729

                                  #471
                                  Originally posted by Coolcanuck79
                                  Why am I fearing the last 90 seconds of the game with my under 14 MTL TT?
                                  They tried!
                                  Montreal's offense stayed on the field thinking it was fourth down after taking a sack on 3rd down haha.
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #472
                                    Congratulations on capitalizing on Montreal failures guys, I admire you for it, it was sharp, even if Calgary couldn't get it done.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #473
                                      Originally posted by Hngkng
                                      They tried!
                                      Montreal's offense stayed on the field thinking it was fourth down after taking a sack on 3rd down haha.
                                      Shiltz wants to play safety!!!!
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                                      • Coolcanuck79
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-07-11
                                        • 3189

                                        #474
                                        Originally posted by Hngkng
                                        I’m just gonna do two small bets tonight.
                                        Under 24.5 1H
                                        Montreal under 14.5
                                        We eeked out the Montreal TT win! Congrats
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                                        • Hngkng
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-03-15
                                          • 729

                                          #475
                                          2 of the best defences in the CFL play next week. Calgary @ Saskatchewan, that should be interesting. I wonder how low a CFL total will open.

                                          Great week this week for everyone here!
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                                          • Coolcanuck79
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-07-11
                                            • 3189

                                            #476
                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                            Congratulations on capitalizing on Montreal failures guys, I admire you for it, it was sharp, even if Calgary couldn't get it done.
                                            Sometimes we go with gut feelings and tonight, it worked out.

                                            Again, we really appreciate the analysis on all the games. Keep up the good work. I know it is a lot of work and it is definitely welcomed each and every week!
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #477
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                                              • Hngkng
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-03-15
                                                • 729

                                                #478
                                                Hamilton sends QB Johnny Manziel, OT Tony Washington and OL Landon Rice for DE Jamaal Westerman, WR Chris Williams and 2 first-round picks in 2020 and 2021. Montreal has no first round picks for the next 3 years as of now.
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #479
                                                  Whaaaat????

                                                  Oh shit.
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                                                  • danshan11
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-08-17
                                                    • 4101

                                                    #480
                                                    Originally posted by Hngkng
                                                    2 of the best defences in the CFL play next week. Calgary @ Saskatchewan, that should be interesting. I wonder how low a CFL total will open.

                                                    Great week this week for everyone here!
                                                    I got the line at 51.5 so I am usually a hair high so my guess is 50 on the nose but usually my guess is not as good as my model so I say 51.5, LOL but yeah right there
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #481
                                                      I made it an SBR Player's Talk thread.

                                                      It's officially official now.





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                                                      • Hngkng
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-03-15
                                                        • 729

                                                        #482
                                                        47.5 total for Calgary vs Saskatchewan.
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #483
                                                          I had my screens up when lines popped...

                                                          Here are the spread positions, lines have already moved a bit.

                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          The CFL Sharp forecast fund has picked the following plays…

                                                          Winnipeg Blue Bombers -9.5 (-106) over Toronto Argonauts.

                                                          Hamilton Tiger-Cats -4 (-107) over Ottawa Redblacks.

                                                          Calgary Stampeders -7 (-106) over Saskatchewan Roughriders...
                                                          No line in Montreal yet, I think Johnny may start.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #484
                                                            Originally posted by Hngkng
                                                            47.5 total for Calgary vs Saskatchewan.
                                                            Calgary defensive rating is one of the lowest I've seen in a while, another negative raw score for their opponent.

                                                            CFL entertaining extremes these days.
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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #485
                                                              Line on Calgary moving away from the forecast play to -6.5.

                                                              We saw this with Ottawa and they didn't cover. At this point, even though there's no other analysis out there, I believe those bets against Calgary will lose.

                                                              It looks like Calgary bounces back, but admittedly this isn't much info yet.

                                                              Also, that 47.5 Total has been bet early on the Under. Again, not much, but I think Heritage protected with a 48 line and it will be interesting to see if they can hold it.
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #486
                                                                Was going to mention that Pinny and more of the marke will need to hold a Calgary -6.5 for the above post to really qualify.

                                                                No need to now, line pressuring down on early plays already.

                                                                Let's see if the market can hold the -6.5.

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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #487
                                                                  Still nothing on game one for Thursday. Crazy if Johnny starts.

                                                                  By the way, for that first game, the sharp forecast has Edmonton winning with 19 or 20 points to Montreal's 10 points.

                                                                  I will buy if we see Edmonton -8.5 or better or Montreal +10.5 or better.

                                                                  I can't make a stacking forecast, only hypothetical, so let's just wait to see if Montreal goes with a new starter.
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                                                                  • Hngkng
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-03-15
                                                                    • 729

                                                                    #488
                                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                                    Still nothing on game one for Thursday. Crazy if Johnny starts.

                                                                    By the way, for that first game, the sharp forecast has Edmonton winning with 19 or 20 points to Montreal's 10 points.

                                                                    I will buy if we see Edmonton -8.5 or better or Montreal +10.5 or better.

                                                                    I can't make a stacking forecast, only hypothetical, so let's just wait to see if Montreal goes with a new starter.
                                                                    You posted this a few hours before Johnny even had his press conference in Montreal.
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                                                                    • Hngkng
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-03-15
                                                                      • 729

                                                                      #489


                                                                      Manziel won't start, but should see some plays.
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                                                                      • Hngkng
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 01-03-15
                                                                        • 729

                                                                        #490
                                                                        Vernon Adams to start for Montreal
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