From what I'm reading it looks as though Hatch is going to try and make sports betting difficult for the states to implement. Whispers are already popping up that his new bill will block ANY use of mobile devices or computers to place wagers.
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A4KSBR Hall of Famer
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Senator Orrin Hatch
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DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
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#2It'll be tough to do; the SCOTUS just gave the states a huge degree of autonomy to control sports betting. That will most surely extend to mobile wagering.Comment -
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#3The federal government has 2 options in essence. 1. Ban ALL states from sports wagering (won't happen because of Nevada) or 2. Make it extremely difficult for states to implement and run sports books.Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayerIt'll be tough to do; the SCOTUS just gave the states a huge degree of autonomy to control sports betting. That will most surely extend to mobile wagering.
Hatch could easily introduce a bill that prohibits all SPORTS betting wagers unless you place the wager in person.
FYI...even though it is legal now to have U.S. sports books it is still illegal for banks to knowingly pass your transactions through to off shore accounts for the purpose of betting. That law was not struck down.Comment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#4Tax Money <--- say that 10x
Hatch's attempt is futileComment -
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#5I hope you are right, friend.Originally posted by Sam OdomTax Money <--- say that 10x
Hatch's attempt is futileComment -
HmanSBR Posting Legend
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#6Orrin Hatch is being a little b!tch because he was one of PASPA's founders.Comment -
capitalist pigSBR Hall of Famer
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#7Hatch waited to late he never thought it would fly thru the SC. It’s going to be impossible to take it away from states who will already have in place before Congress even gets around to discussing it
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PhilmillSBR MVP
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#8Originally posted by HmanOrrin Hatch is being a little b!tch because he was one of PASPA's founders.Comment -
b1slickguySBR Posting Legend
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#9Hatch is an 80-some year old mormon from Utah that is out of touch with reality and today's world.
Who names their son "Orrin" anyways?Comment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#10the Bill will not get out of committee -- if he even submits oneComment -
PhilmillSBR MVP
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#11piece of shit needs to go set down somewhere....I hate Hatch...Originally posted by b1slickguyHatch is an 80-some year old mormon from Utah that is out of touch with reality and today's world.
Who names their son "Orrin" anyways?
Hatch has the Fed drug/gun laws out of hand aswell.... he needs to go...Comment -
BriGuySBR MVP
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#12Orrin Hatch is retiring in 7 months. It is too late at this point to get anything like this up and running.
There are so many states that want sports gambling that all their reps and senators can just stall and stall and make these bills never go anywhere.Comment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
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#13That is the most likely scenario. Still would not be surprised if they tried to ban college sports from being wagered on.Originally posted by BriGuyOrrin Hatch is retiring in 7 months. It is too late at this point to get anything like this up and running.
There are so many states that want sports gambling that all their reps and senators can just stall and stall and make these bills never go anywhere.Comment -
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#14Courts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will be playing offshoreComment -
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#15with SBRShari?Originally posted by jjgoldCourts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will be playing offshoreComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#16Any state that doesn't want gambling can still make it legal and will just tax the proceeds at a ridiculous percent and charge an application fee in the 10's of millions.Originally posted by Sam OdomTax Money <--- say that 10x
Hatch's attempt is futile
Books can't operated with a 40% tax rate without charging prohibitive vig.
Unless the state is very friendly, I think the business model of a book will fail in the public domain.Comment -
cincinnatikid513SBR Aristocracy
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#17this guy 82 years old and retiring , too many old farts in congress need to be checked yearly for dementiaComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#18Disaster waiting to happenOriginally posted by KVBAny state that doesn't want gambling can still make it legal and will just tax the proceeds at a ridiculous percent and charge an application fee in the 10's of millions.
Books can't operated with a 40% tax rate without charging prohibitive vig.
Unless the state is very friendly, I think the business model of a book will fail in the public domain.
get use to -130 juiceComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#19At that rate some of the biggest sportsbook dollars will leave the sports markets for better investment opportunity.Originally posted by jjgoldDisaster waiting to happen
get use to -130 juice
I suppose if Vegas and Pinny and BM stay cheaper, maybe there's a place for those dollars still.Comment -
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#20This. This this this. This.Originally posted by capitalist pigHatch waited to late he never thought it would fly thru the SC. It’s going to be impossible to take it away from states who will already have in place before Congress even gets around to discussing it
It is easy to forbid something from being implemented. It is far, far more difficult to take something away. Even PASPA was smart enough to be written in a manner whereby it didn't take anything away from the states which already allowed sports gambling.Comment -
MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend
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#21Well Congress is sure to create uniform rules of some type that streamlines oversight and protects college sports...
That said, beyond banning mobile, wire or telephone betting I'm not sure what- absent a ban- they can do
With 30 plus states set to implement, every citizen is likely to have a betting option within a 3 hour drive nowComment -
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#22live in tampa bay area if mississippi gets it looking at 600 miles away 8 hours by car closest placeOriginally posted by MinnesotaFatsWell Congress is sure to create uniform rules of some type that streamlines oversight and protects college sports...
That said, beyond banning mobile, wire or telephone betting I'm not sure what- absent a ban- they can do
With 30 plus states set to implement, every citizen is likely to have a betting option within a 3 hour drive nowComment -
SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#23limits on individual bettors - so they can't be couriers aka "runners"
no mobile betting, no internet - IN HOUSE at CASINO in CASH ONLY.Comment -
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#24yeah I dont get the excitement for most people. We wont have gambling any time soon in florida.Originally posted by cincinnatikid513live in tampa bay area if mississippi gets it looking at 600 miles away 8 hours by car closest place
It has to be approved by the state Legislature which doesnt meet until next year, a constitutional amendment, and deal with the Seminole Tribe
Supreme Court ruling doesn't mean sports betting will come to Florida quickly — or at all
The U.S Supreme Court ruling Monday that struck down a federal law banning sports gambling in most states opened the door for lawmakers in Florida and other states to legalize sports betting. While…
Driving to biloxi to lay terrible numbers and juice and taxes on sports wagers? I just want pinnacle and good books back in the market and good poker sitesComment -
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#25Fukkin Americans.
Always last to the table.Comment -
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#26I cant argue with this....ALL our politicians should be sent to N. Korea the corrupt fukks.Originally posted by Jayvegas420Fukkin Americans.
Always last to the table.Comment -
cincinnatikid513SBR Aristocracy
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#27id be happy w that too bet365 would be niceOriginally posted by gregmyeah I dont get the excitement for most people. We wont have gambling any time soon in florida.
It has to be approved by the state Legislature which doesnt meet until next year, a constitutional amendment, and deal with the Seminole Tribe
Supreme Court ruling doesn't mean sports betting will come to Florida quickly — or at all
The U.S Supreme Court ruling Monday that struck down a federal law banning sports gambling in most states opened the door for lawmakers in Florida and other states to legalize sports betting. While…
Driving to biloxi to lay terrible numbers and juice and taxes on sports wagers? I just want pinnacle and good books back in the market and good poker sitesComment -
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#28When the court votes 7-2 the genie is out of the bottle and not going back.Originally posted by A4K2. Make it extremely difficult for states to implement and run sports books.Comment -
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#29I hope you are right but wasn't it aOriginally posted by ByeSheaWhen the court votes 7-2 the genie is out of the bottle and not going back.6 to 3 decision? fixedComment -
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#30He’s an old white guy from Utah. I’d expect nothing less from his kind.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#31Offshore laughing at all the chaos
Vegas laughing tooComment -
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#32This is why we all should be concerned. You let people get involved who have no freakin' idea what they're doing and we're all left to deal with the mess.Comment -
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#33Standard GOP "limited government"
Ummmm... No. That's not how that works. Stay out of my business.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#34Hatch could ruin it allComment -
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#35I'm just south of youOriginally posted by cincinnatikid513live in tampa bay area if mississippi gets it looking at 600 miles away 8 hours by car closest place
I'm thinking of just moving Costa RicaComment
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