Are the Browns really going to select Josh Allen at #1?

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  • guitarjosh
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-25-07
    • 5797

    #36
    Darnold is a project with more upside, but Rosen & Mayfield are way more ready to start on day 1.
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    • 19th Hole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-22-09
      • 18954

      #37
      Player to be drafted first
      Sam Darnold (-210)
      Josh Allen (+180)

      Player to be drafted first
      Josh Allen (-165)
      Saquon Barkley (+145)

      Player to be drafted first
      Josh Allen (-200)
      Bradley Chubb (+175)

      Player to be drafted first
      Saquon Barkley (-360)
      Bradley Chubb (+280)

      Player to be drafted first
      Josh Rosen (-300)
      Saquon Barkley (+250)

      Player to be drafted first
      Derwin James (-140)
      Minkah Fitzpatrick (+120)

      Player to be drafted first
      Tremaine Edmunds (-160)
      Roquan Smith (+140)
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      • klemopixx
        SBR MVP
        • 10-02-14
        • 3807

        #38
        If they were smart they'd trade the #1 pick for #12 and #22 plus next years #1 from the Bills.

        Then take the best non-QB available with #4 #12 and #22 and grab Lamar Jackson with the #33 or #35 pick.

        There's a ton of good talent in this draft. 5 of the top 35 picks in the draft??? Doesn't matter who the QB is, they'd be a better team instantly.
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        • PAULYPOKER
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-06-08
          • 36581

          #39
          ^ If they were smart they would pack up and get the fukk outta Cleveland.......
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          • cincinnatikid513
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-23-17
            • 45360

            #40
            browns will find a way to mess this up
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #41
              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
              Giant go jagoff a frog pAL

              Noone cares

              This is a gambling forum not Mel kipper Jr forum
              This IS gambling related because you can BET it.

              And Darnold still -140 favorite at 5 Dimes, Allen is +160.
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #42
                Originally posted by turbobets
                Unless one of them is head and shoulders above the rest just take saquon #1 guy will be a difference maker. Hard to f'ck that up and you can still get your qb with #4 pick.
                They should get Barkley at 4 since it looks like QBs are going 1-2-3.

                And Rosen is NOT one of them so somebody could potentiially get a semi-bargain as Rosen may not go Top 10.
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                • cincinnatikid513
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-23-17
                  • 45360

                  #43
                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  They should get Barkley at 4 since it looks like QBs are going 1-2-3.

                  And Rosen is NOT one of them so somebody could potentiially get a semi-bargain as Rosen may not go Top 10.
                  rosen is def christian ponder likely out of the league within a few years
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Stallion
                    It has to be Rosen or Allen; if not Barkley.
                    As I said, Rosen probably won't go Top 10 barring trades.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                      I've watched more Allen tape than most. Have to admit that I'm intrigued.

                      The big-arm thing is no joke. GMs dream of a guy who can split the seams. Mark me down as cautiously optimistic.

                      In 5 years...where will we see the standing of Darnold? Rosen? Mayfield?

                      I'd seriously question Rosen's attitude issue. He's going to be a bum.

                      I'm not too hi on Darnold. He's just never jumped off the page to me. And OhioSt bossed him.

                      I actually think Mayfield and RUDOLPH will be good value picks.
                      Mayfield WOULD have been a decent value pick a bit later in the draft, but I think he is a reach at #3.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #46
                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                        rosen is def christian ponder likely out of the league within a few years
                        But he is pretty good flyer in second half of first round considering he was talked about as #1 overall pick potential what, a month ago? His attitude is scaring teams away.
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                        • BigdaddyQH
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-13-09
                          • 19530

                          #47
                          If any team has to depend on a QB in this draft stepping in at the beginning of this season, they are in HUGE trouble. Every QB in this draft are projects, though some are much bigger projects than others. The teams that succeed in this draft are the teams that will get the good players in rounds 2, 3, and 4. After the first 15 or so picks in round 1, everything seems to even out and with 4 to 5 QB's going in the top 15, there probably will be only 10 players or less that can step in and start day 1.
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                          • MRivera42
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 11-13-17
                            • 372

                            #48
                            Originally posted by The Giant
                            This is what most mock drafts are showing nowadays.

                            Shocking to say the least.

                            I don't claim to be an NFL scout, but this is not the selection I would make.

                            Sam Darnold.
                            they better take darnold if they want any shot at making the playoffs
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                            • semibluff
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-12-16
                              • 1515

                              #49
                              Allen has a high ceiling but he could well be a complete bust. I think he's more of a long-term reclamation project than a developmental project. I'm glad my team won't be picking him.
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                              • Goat Milk
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                                • 03-24-10
                                • 25850

                                #50
                                Anyone who takes anyone other than Barkley at #1 doesn't know anything about football
                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                • RudyRuetigger
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-24-10
                                  • 65084

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                  This IS gambling related because you can BET it.

                                  And Darnold still -140 favorite at 5 Dimes, Allen is +160.
                                  ok lets see your wager on it

                                  and what are the max wagers?

                                  what if i put an over/under on time it takes me to piss

                                  i can leave that in players talk? i would take a bigger wager than 5dimes, that is for sure

                                  and i wouldnt even be involved with credit fraud
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                                  • packerd_00
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-22-13
                                    • 17811

                                    #52
                                    Come on Browns get you're shit together already.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                                      Come on Browns get you're shit together already.
                                      i think they make the playoffs this year bro

                                      and im a steelers fanboy
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                                      • packerd_00
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-22-13
                                        • 17811

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        i think they make the playoffs this year bro

                                        and im a steelers fanboy
                                        I hope you're right,I think we all just want to see them sort themselves out.
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65084

                                          #55
                                          i hope they dont

                                          but they remind me alot of the 76ers this year
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                                          • Goat Milk
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-24-10
                                            • 25850

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                            i think they make the playoffs this year bro

                                            and im a steelers fanboy
                                            Prolly not. Should get about 8-9 wins though. If they drafted Barkley, playoffs for sure.
                                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                            • LT Profits
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Sam Darnold (-210)
                                              Josh Allen (+180)

                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Josh Allen (-165)
                                              Saquon Barkley (+145)

                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Josh Allen (-200)
                                              Bradley Chubb (+175)

                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Saquon Barkley (-360)
                                              Bradley Chubb (+280)

                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Josh Rosen (-300)
                                              Saquon Barkley (+250)

                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Derwin James (-140)
                                              Minkah Fitzpatrick (+120)

                                              Player to be drafted first
                                              Tremaine Edmunds (-160)
                                              Roquan Smith (+140)
                                              Are these odds old? Barkley +250 over Rosen is too good to be true.
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                                              • LT Profits
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-27-06
                                                • 90963

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                Anyone who takes anyone other than Barkley at #1 doesn't know anything about football
                                                Browns will get Barkley at #4 anyway so they have the right idea for a change. I am not so sure about taking Allen over Darnold #1 though.
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                                                • turbobets
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-13-06
                                                  • 1002

                                                  #59
                                                  Wouldn't risk losing a shot at barkley or chubb if I were Cleveland. No Andrew Luck coming out of this draft. They have to come away with a 10+ year pro bowler whether or not they get it right at qb with one of their picks.
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by turbobets
                                                    Wouldn't risk losing a shot at barkley or chubb if I were Cleveland. No Andrew Luck coming out of this draft. They have to come away with a 10+ year pro bowler whether or not they get it right at qb with one of their picks.
                                                    If there are no more trades, Browns should already know Giants and Jets are taking QBs. Only risk would be if Giants trade down after Browns make Allen or Darnold first pick.
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                                                    • PAULYPOKER
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                                                      • 12-06-08
                                                      • 36581

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

                                                      i think they make the playoffs this year bro

                                                      and im a steelers fanboy
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                                                      • reigle9
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-25-07
                                                        • 17879

                                                        #62
                                                        browns have had a very good offseason, absolutely think they'd make the playoffs if they draft barkley

                                                        drafting any of these qb's or most any qb wouldn't help the wins total this year (or likely ever with these qb's)
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