Got this info from Fishhead
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JJ , but you are a 'gut bettor' old schoolComment -
"numbers guys" know how to line their pockets with foil and acquire deserts from the hallways of Vegas hotels. They'll be fine.Comment -
Originally posted by daneblazer
yup , takes a special breed
2c scalpersComment -
The prices on some teams are ridiculous. Last night a 2 tm parlay on Balt and san Diego would of made a man rich.Comment -
Originally posted by vividjohn45
lose 3-4 of those -275 then spend the rest of the season trying to get even
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Define “numbers guy”Comment -
"number guys" get hurt every year, say they "retire" and start a new account the following year, everything is fakeComment -
Fishhead barreled inComment -
Who's Fishead?Comment -
numbers guys say that cause they need an excuse after they lose
"the numbers pointed to a win"
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Some old timer that posted in the 1800s that all the other old timers like to bring upOriginally posted by RangeFinderComment -
Fishead a guy in Vegas
He Beat Vegas for 1 million dollars slots
I know his strategy..............he lurks in casino carrying a beer and is discreet and watches people lose at the slots and after they pour lots of money in the machine he waits for them to leave if it did not hit.
He proceeds to play and his stats says it will hit if you keep playing
Has all these timing statsComment -
Number Guys made a comeback since all-star break
Most in the Black nowComment -
Destroyed yesterdayComment -
Any individual with the ability to count beyond 10 without the need to remove shoes and socks to use toes for counting purposes.Originally posted by Chi_archieComment -
Since starting the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund after the break I went up 10 units quick to briefly down 2 units.Originally posted by Sam Odom
Right now it is up 4.08 units over 141 plays with 5 plays pending.
I use numbers.
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Originally posted by Booya711
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Fundamentalist versus numbers guys (Computer Bob types) is a great debate. Nobody wins all the time (well maybe Sam Odom can) but it seems like players are either one or the other? Both, totally defend their style. But, a little bit of both can win as well???
Sam Odom - need to have a drink with you at the bash - you seem to be on the cutting edge of the sports guy gossip in Las Vegas?Comment -
Originally posted by BuckyOne
Sammy was born to lose
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Math guys check inComment -
SBR misses MathyComment -
LT is winning, but has given some back recently.
Still winning though.
He uses numbers.Comment -
Originally posted by KVB
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Sammy everyone loses
common manComment -
Hindsight Capital HQOriginally posted by vividjohn45Comment -
I think you guys are just over thinking it.
Look at where the line opened, and where it is now. Then look at the %'s, and ask yourself what makes sense.
^only use this link for %'s not for where lines opened or where they are now. But my strategy is to take a play from a "numbers guys", and see where the line opened and closed.
If a "numbers guys" has the over of 9 and >60% of public are on over of 9. and line closes at 8.5. I will take the under with a blindfold onComment -
I am confused, why would you take it? What is the thought process behind the play? Thanks!Originally posted by flakeandbakeI think you guys are just over thinking it.
Look at where the line opened, and where it is now. Then look at the %'s, and ask yourself what makes sense.
^only use this link for %'s not for where lines opened or where they are now. But my strategy is to take a play from a "numbers guys", and see where the line opened and closed.
If a "numbers guys" has the over of 9 and >60% of public are on over of 9. and line closes at 8.5. I will take the under with a blindfold onComment -
DrH got destroyed and most MLB service people are quiet so I would say yes they are getting killed.
I am getting destroyed but the last thing I would call me is sharp in the MLB.
I am at 47% Win percentage and should be "fair line" at 50% (based on closed lines)Comment -
Numbers guys always come back. Always.Comment -
Lol
Ranger You live in fantasy which is a sign of slight depression I’m in the same boat chiefComment -
Yea in theory. In reality, the numbers start averaging together while they're watching from the couchOriginally posted by RangeFinderComment -
This is what I mean by the over thinking. Getting all caught up in overanalyzing numbers to the point not realizing that 1 number sticks out and over reading the entire thing. What do you want me to explain and I will? Think of what I said in terms of your own betting.Originally posted by danshan11
Fictitious Example: Boston is playing Marlins tomorrow at home and they are -200. You really love the Red Sox and you can't see them losing the game. You go on that sports insights website I showed you and you see >60% on Boston -1.5 and >60% on the money line. Next thing you know, it's 5 minutes before game time and Boston is now -180... The line is now cheaper with more people betting on Boston. Why would that ever happen? B/c someone way smarter than you or me or whoever is betting a bigger amount on the Marlins.
This is sports betting 101 and DOES NOT necessarily work or make you $ long term. But when you really look at your own emotions and others, where lines opened and closed, and %'s you can get a better feel for things. And you can take number bullshit and only use it to add conviction... not make a decisionComment -
The flipside of what I said is called "steam". It's when someone way smarter than everyone with more $ drives the line from -200 down to -180 Red Sox (making it look like "smart $" is Marlins) and then 5 minutes before the game takes Red Sox for large.
Line would look something like this: -200 Open, Driven down to -180, Closes sharply at -210 right before the game.
That's why it's not easy and they're no short cutsComment
