Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

**d2bets** · 12-20-18, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

2018 will be the first losing year since 2008

https://www.thebalance.com/stock-market-returns-by-year-2388543

Much blame goes to fuckin Trump

Asshole is bitching daily about nonsense and border walls, not signing budgets, etc. Rails the market with tons of uncertainty.

His idiotic tariffs have devestated sectors alone

Even a massive corporate tax cut giveaway couldn't save it. So now we got the debt without the gains in return. Total shitshow. I still think the doom and gloom is premature, but Trump has screwed the pooch.

**Brock Landers** · 12-20-18, 02:16 PM

Stocks fell to the low for the day after U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan announced that President Donald Trump would not sign a temporary government funding resolution.

**homie1975** · 12-20-18, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Git Lo

you are crazy because "markets" are forward looking

true. but i guess i am saying that the future does not look as grim as the sellers seem to think. santa clause, hopefully some good news on tariffs, and Q4 profits, can all come in some kind of combo to help the market rip in early 2019.

**Git Lo** · 12-20-18, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

true. but i guess i am saying that the future does not look as grim as the sellers seem to think. santa clause, hopefully some good news on tariffs, and Q4 profits, can all come in some kind of combo to help the market rip in early 2019.

gonna need a lot more ammunition to battle falling long term yields, falling oil prices, and now a weak dollar

**KVB** · 12-20-18, 03:21 PM

BAC holding strong, like that.

Get off Trump's nuts guys, it's far bigger than him. Don't miss the forest because trees are in your way.

Trump inherited a record bull run in us equities, a record run, what did you expect to happen? He's using that record and our economic upward pressure to fix certain wrongs that in world trade; wrongs that the world agrees are wrong.

Not sure if anyone, but those blaming the president, is surprised by these sell offs.

Those blaming the president might not act surprised, but the very fact they think the US President even shares responsibility watches too much mainstream TV that blames infighting and politicization.

The Fed is important, but this isn't the time to draw your conclusions from State sources like the major "news" networks. It's obvious many already have.

**d2bets** · 12-20-18, 04:20 PM

Did we hit bottom? Or do we get panic selling next week after everyone tells their uncles to dump their stocks over the Christmas dinner table?

**HockeyRocks** · 12-20-18, 05:09 PM

If my on-line TD account is any indication, investors are spending money after market close...

**Shafted69** · 12-20-18, 05:52 PM

Don't forget end of year tax loss selling is coming too.

**HockeyRocks** · 12-20-18, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Shafted69

Don't forget end of year tax loss selling is coming too.

HUH?

**homie1975** · 12-20-18, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by HockeyRocks

If my on-line TD account is any indication, investors are spending money after market close...

The after hours trading has been in green for many nights the past few mos but the following day the shit turns red

**d2bets** · 12-20-18, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by HockeyRocks

HUH?

A lot of people are sitting on losses in stocks. Many people sell before EOY in order to offset realized gains or to take up to $3,000 against ordinary income. I still need to do a little of that.

**d2bets** · 12-20-18, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

The after hours trading has been in green for many nights the past few mos but the following day the shit turns red

Seems negative now, but who knows. The Mattis resignation may be shaking the market.

**jjgold** · 12-20-18, 10:10 PM

Everyone buried

**TheGuesser** · 12-21-18, 12:52 AM

Stocks now down almost 8% for the year, and over 20% from their highs. So much for the Fascist Traitor crowing about the record stock market
Obama's WORST Year. -2%, his only down year, 2015. A blip in his otherwise 7 years of large market gains.
The Idiot's stupid Tax cut for the wealthy, insane trade wars, are costing millions of working Americans Billions of dollars in their investments and savings toward retirement. The year still has 6 days, so the traitor idiot can still get to a W level collapse that will cost even more.
#WINNING.

**guitarjosh** · 12-21-18, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by TheGuesser

Stocks now down almost 8% for the year, and over 20% from their highs. So much for the Fascist Traitor crowing about the record stock market
Obama's WORST Year. -2%, his only down year, 2015. A blip in his otherwise 7 years of large market gains.
The Idiot's stupid Tax cut for the wealthy, insane trade wars, are costing millions of working Americans Billions of dollars in their investments and savings toward retirement. The year still has 6 days, so the traitor idiot can still get to a W level collapse that will cost even more.
#WINNING.

It's primarily the Fed, although the tariffs aren't helping.

**homie1975** · 12-24-18, 11:19 AM

Christmas Eve and the indexes continue to fall..........

**RoyBacon** · 12-24-18, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

Christmas Eve and the indexes continue to fall..........

Down 360. Tax selling and margin selling. We will finish UP for the week and maybe even today.

**d2bets** · 12-24-18, 11:30 AM

This is so helpful. Who would have ever thought that Bankrupt Donnie would be a disaster.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The only problem our economy has is the Fed. They don’t have a feel for the Market, they don’t understand necessary Trade Wars or Strong Dollars or even Democrat Shutdowns over Borders. The Fed is like a powerful golfer who can’t score because he has no touch - he can’t putt!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1077231267559755776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 24, 2018</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**JIBBBY** · 12-24-18, 11:34 AM

^^Trump haters are gleaming over this Stock Market crash of late.

They are finding real joy in this.

Finally a real reason to hate on Trump. Pathetic.

**d2bets** · 12-24-18, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^Trump haters are gleaming over this Stock Market crash of late.

They are finding real joy in this.

Finally a real reason to hate on Trump. Pathetic.

I'm not finding joy. The timing was horrible for me. I'm pissed. I needed to sell in January so of course December is a disaster. I should have hedged. Woulda coulda shoulda.

**RoyBacon** · 12-24-18, 11:45 AM

Tax free bonds are moving higher probably because Dems will do everything to raise top rates. Even trade a wall.

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Pay over 5% tax free and have a lot of room to move higher for those looking for a safe trade.

**d2bets** · 12-24-18, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Tax free bonds are moving higher probably because Dems will do everything to raise top rates. Even trade a wall.

IQI
MYI
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Pay over 5% tax free and have a lot of room to move higher for those looking for a safe trade.

Top tax rate will eventually have to move higher, but it won't be until 2021 at least. So your theory is silly.

Maybe Trump tanked the market on purpose. I'm sure some of his rich friends are making a killing.

**d2bets** · 12-24-18, 11:56 AM

Another 100 points and the S&P will be negative since inauguration.

**RoyBacon** · 12-24-18, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Top tax rate will eventually have to move higher, but it won't be until 2021 at least. So your theory is silly.

Maybe Trump tanked the market on purpose. I'm sure some of his rich friends are making a killing.

Even talk of higher top rates will move these tax free bonds higher especially from the 5% yield starting point. I bot all 3. These are high rated bonds(safety) so I think they move higher.

The Trump play is to buy oil at $45.50.

**RoyBacon** · 12-24-18, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Another 100 points and the S&P will be negative since inauguration.

These are the lows. Tap your line of credit. You don't want to sell until 2020 and only if it looks like Trump will lose.

**d2bets** · 12-24-18, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

These are the lows. Tap your line of credit. You don't want to sell until 2020 and only if it looks like Trump will lose.

I did my small tax loss selling. I am not selling right now. I am hoping for a bounce early 2019, but nothing would surprise me.

**KVB** · 12-24-18, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

Christmas Eve and the indexes continue to fall..........

We are entering a buying time, for sure.

**KVB** · 12-24-18, 12:33 PM

Here are the top 20 decliners with last trade over 5 and avg 5 day volume over 250000.

Symbol	Last Trade	Change	% Change	Description
AMZN	1,348.57	-28.88	-2.10	AMAZON.COM INC
DVMT	77.11	-25.62	-24.94	DELL TECHNOLOGIES INC
MELI	262.41	-24.16	-8.43	MERCADOLIBRE INC
TSLA	298.33	-21.44	-6.70	TESLA INC
XNTK	55.11	-19.18	-25.82	SPDR NYSE TECHNOLOGY ETF
ESS	240.77	-10.98	-4.36	ESSEX PROPERTY TRUST
EQIX	339.96	-10.35	-2.95	EQUINIX INC
UGAZ	71.91	-9.67	-11.85
CLX	145.50	-9.01	-5.83	CLOROX CO/DE
LMT	247.67	-8.88	-3.46	LOCKHEED MARTIN CORP
KMB	107.34	-8.61	-7.43	KIMBERLY-CLARK CORP
AVB	168.56	-8.48	-4.79	AVALONBAY COMMUNITIES INC
ROP	250.01	-8.07	-3.13	ROPER TECHNOLOGIES INC
AVGO	237.50	-7.41	-3.03	BROADCOM INC
SHW	369.17	-7.38	-1.96	SHERWIN-WILLIAMS CO
NOC	227.89	-7.35	-3.12	NORTHROP GRUMMAN CORP
NFLX	239.41	-6.98	-2.83	NETFLIX INC
TFX	231.51	-6.66	-2.80	TELEFLEX INC
IDXX	178.49	-6.45	-3.49	IDEXX LABS INC
ISRG	439.62	-6.40	-1.43	INTUITIVE SURGICAL INC

**jjgold** · 12-24-18, 12:53 PM

Idiots still saying good buys

Lol

Nobody knows bottoms

**Brock Landers** · 12-24-18, 12:54 PM

Another 2% haircut today

When will this end???

**KVB** · 12-24-18, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Idiots still saying good buys

Lol

Nobody knows bottoms

We're there Gold, we're there.

**d2bets** · 12-24-18, 12:56 PM

The Trump Slump in full swing.

**jjgold** · 12-24-18, 01:01 PM

They said that 3 weeks ago

Originally posted by KVB

We're there Gold, we're there.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 12-24-18, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Another 2% haircut today

When will this end???

Brock, nice avatar. "Looks like someone we know."

**KVB** · 12-24-18, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

They said that 3 weeks ago

They did?

I'd hate to be they.