Should Members Be Required To Include Records When Posting Picks?

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  • Hman
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-04-17
    • 21429

    #1
    Should Members Be Required To Include Records When Posting Picks?
    Should Members Be Required To Include Records When Posting Picks?

    This topic has long been debated.

    Some fellow posters believe that yes, keeping & updating records should required in picks-threads.

    Others think it's unnecessary, that posting shouldn't be considered a job, and that it's not his/her responsibility in helping determine if other posters follow him blindly or knowingly regarding their overall record.

    Both sides have valid arguments.

    I used to track & provide my record each & every day for years on the forums when posting my NBA plays. As a matter of fact as an example for those who don't include them in threads, here they are:

    2006/2007 NBA Record: 254-214-8 / +50.41 Units
    2007/2008 NBA Record: 166-143-1 / +31.32 Units
    2008/2009 NBA Record: 262-229-11 / +32.74 Units
    2009/2010 NBA Record: 289-242-8 / +96.12 Units
    2010/2011 NBA Record: 77-68-1 / -3.40 Units
    All Plays Documented On Forum



    I think that some posters feel they'll receive too much negativity if they are losing.

    It never happened to me, but I have seen many posters get critiqued for just that.

    Seeing that happen is one of the bigger reasons I stopped posting my plays.

    So since I used to post my records, I feel I have a right to an opinion on the matter, so here it is my friends:

    I would recommend posters include their records as they will earn more respect overall for doing so.

    But at the same time, i don't feel one should be required to do so & catch heat if they don't.

    Even if they aren't including their records, most members are witty enough to know if another poster is up or down.

    Lastly, let's not forget that at least they have the cajones to post plays.

    Your opinions?
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    MR VALIDATION

    ALL THE TIME

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    • RyanDaRaider
      SBR Hustler
      • 12-16-10
      • 68

      #3
      At the end of the day it’s up to the better to determine if they are going to follow or fade a bet. I come on here very sparaticly, sometimes I post my picks other times I don’t. I don’t have a “hard record” that I keep either.
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        I love the idea but something tells me there would be fewer guys posting picks if records were required.
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        • Hman
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-04-17
          • 21429

          #5
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          I love the idea but something tells me there would be fewer guys posting picks if records were required.


          Agreed.
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          • The Kraken
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-25-11
            • 28918

            #6
            Yes, and post up a real fukking ticket of your bet

            You want to get on here and say you have a play, cool. But show me you're on it and for how much.

            Yes, that matters
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            • RangeFinder
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-27-16
              • 8041

              #7
              I didn't think it was a big deal but I can start posting my record

              I have spreadsheets that go back years but I need to keep them confidential but I can go back to say the beginning of the year and post that to save me a lot of time and then keep track going forward
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              • firedawg
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 10-08-08
                • 39219

                #8
                Originally posted by The Kraken
                Yes, and post up a real fukking ticket of your bet

                You want to get on here and say you have a play, cool. But show me you're on it and for how much.

                Yes, that matters
                Agree
                But won’t work
                Guys will fudge numbers
                You know this
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                • Bostongambler
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-01-08
                  • 35581

                  #9
                  I don’t know about keeping records. I mean if someone wants to post a play here and there I think it’s fine. The problem I see is when someone posts lots of plays everyday and
                  starts keeping a record , only to stop record keeping when they are down and then starts a new record. ( Funnyb). It reeks of trying to get over and try to lure people in for whatever agenda.

                  Since you asked , I chimed in.
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                  • RangeFinder
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-27-16
                    • 8041

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                    Yes, and post up a real fukking ticket of your bet

                    You want to get on here and say you have a play, cool. But show me you're on it and for how much.

                    Yes, that matters
                    I'd rather not show amounts of the plays for reasons of security and tax law implications if that's okay
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Na. posting tickets is too extreme. I for one like to keep AMOUNTS I bet and amounts I keep offshore in general private, and I am sure many others feel the same way.
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                      • A4K
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-08-12
                        • 5243

                        #12
                        It would be cool if SBR had a recorder for each season that kept record like the contests do but have it displayed like badges.
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                        • SamsNCharge99
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-22-08
                          • 41242

                          #13
                          there's 2 methods of tracking picks. Like I have season long threads for individual sports and all plays are tracked at 1 unit a piece.

                          Then you have other guys that will be 50-200 but +100 units b/c every pick is different unit size, so there's no real validation there either.

                          SBR spreadsheet is a good tool, but guys create new threads daily just for the clicks and views instead of creating season long threads to avoid tracking their records
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bostongambler
                            I don’t know about keeping records. I mean if someone wants to post a play here and there I think it’s fine. The problem I see is when someone posts lots of plays everyday and
                            starts keeping a record , only to stop record keeping when they are down and then starts a new record. ( Funnyb). It reeks of trying to get over and try to lure people in for whatever agenda.

                            Since you asked , I chimed in.
                            I post records all the time, many of which are ugly (hello NHL YTD!), it is not a big deal. But accuracy is obviously first priority. And there are no record refreshes, always post season-to-date.
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                            • Booya711
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 12-20-11
                              • 27329

                              #15
                              Nobody here knows how to do simple math and will lie anyway...makes no difference
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                              • Hman
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-04-17
                                • 21429

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Booya711
                                Nobody here knows how to do simple math and will lie anyway...makes no difference



                                Ohhh trust me, those who fudge their records get caught.

                                I've seen posters get busted & called out too many times.
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                                • firedawg
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-08-08
                                  • 39219

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Hman
                                  Ohhh trust me, those who fudge their records get caught.

                                  I've seen posters get busted & called out too many times.
                                  And it does not matter
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65084

                                    #18
                                    I admit to losing

                                    so why would I need to validate that?

                                    PASS
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                                    • Booya711
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-20-11
                                      • 27329

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by firedawg
                                      And it does not matter
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                                      • JIBBBY
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-10-09
                                        • 83686

                                        #20
                                        That would be nice if people did show their current and most recent betting history, or just simply better explain why they like the pick they are making in a post.. That's what I try and do.. I go the extra mile...

                                        I use this 5D bet contest copy and paste below as a best pick history for whom ever wants to tail me and then I also explain why I like my best pick when posting pending.. Such as this below.. These are my best picks everyday period.. I do well with them every month..

                                        9-4 so far this month...


                                        02/14/2018 12:17 PM Basketball NBA
                                        715 Los Angeles Clippers +5 vs 716 Boston Celtics
                                        Win

                                        02/13/2018 12:06 PM Basketball NBA
                                        502 Toronto Raptors / 501 Miami Heat o206
                                        Win

                                        02/12/2018 12:26 PM Basketball NBA
                                        705 Los Angeles Clippers -4½ vs 706 Brooklyn Nets
                                        Win

                                        02/11/2018 02:31 PM Basketball NBA
                                        803 Cleveland Cavaliers +4½ vs 804 Boston Celtics
                                        Win

                                        02/10/2018 01:19 PM Basketball NBA
                                        502 Brooklyn Nets / 501 New Orleans Pelicans o220
                                        Win

                                        02/09/2018 01:15 PM Basketball NBA
                                        804 Detroit Pistons -3 vs 803 Los Angeles Clippers
                                        Loss

                                        02/08/2018 02:17 PM Basketball NBA
                                        504 Toronto Raptors -13½ vs 503 New York Knicks
                                        Win

                                        02/07/2018 01:10 PM Basketball NBA
                                        707 Minnesota Timberwolves -3½ vs 708 Cleveland Cavaliers
                                        Loss

                                        02/06/2018 01:07 PM Basketball NBA
                                        502 Orlando Magic +6½ vs 501 Cleveland Cavaliers
                                        Win

                                        02/05/2018 11:40 AM Basketball NBA
                                        704 Indiana Pacers -1 vs 703 Washington Wizards
                                        Loss

                                        02/04/2018 02:12 PM Basketball NBA
                                        812 Phoenix Suns +6½ vs 811 Charlotte Hornets
                                        Win

                                        02/03/2018 01:49 PM Basketball College
                                        551 Kentucky +2½ vs 552 Missouri
                                        Loss

                                        02/02/2018 06:04 PM Basketball NBA
                                        802 Charlotte Hornets -3 vs 801 Indiana Pacers
                                        Win





                                        I simply don't want people to lose money off my picks so they have to make a choice for themselves after I lay it all out for them. Just here to help..

                                        I like most of the people posting on this forum as well and I'm sick at tired of seeing them lose and struggle then bitch and moan in posts afterwards...

                                        RAISE THE BAR FELLAS!!!
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                                        • jts1207
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-15-16
                                          • 8011

                                          #21
                                          Posting legit records would get rid of the trash....which would be a good thing imo
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                                          • Dilo
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-01-13
                                            • 1384

                                            #22
                                            Good luck whatever happens.
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                                            • shocka1212
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-06-12
                                              • 16788

                                              #23
                                              my record is probably terrible, but the bank roll is not... Spot betting is the way to go.
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                                              • KDF500
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-05-13
                                                • 2465

                                                #24
                                                I for one am for complete transparency. I don’t post picks but if and when I start I plan on keeping all records etc up to date. It doesn’t matter if posters post tickets because it changes nothing on my end if they are air betting or not.. that’s their prerogative. The viewers can use their picks to wager real funds so the picks themselves are what matters here and what people
                                                xhoose to do with them.
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #25
                                                  you get nothing for posting winners

                                                  you get nothing for posting losers


                                                  so who cares?

                                                  let people do what they want
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                                                  • Dilo
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-01-13
                                                    • 1384

                                                    #26
                                                    Doesn’t affect me in any way if you show it or not. I’m not looking at anyone’s records.
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                                                    • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 11-29-07
                                                      • 26069

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                      you get nothing for posting winners

                                                      you get nothing for posting losers


                                                      so who cares?

                                                      let people do what they want
                                                      If that's the case why do you and Firedawg troll
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                                                      • firedawg
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 10-08-08
                                                        • 39219

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                        If that's the case why do you and Firedawg troll
                                                        There you go again
                                                        Are you fukkin stupid?
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                          If that's the case why do you and Firedawg troll
                                                          that's where you are mistaken

                                                          I point out the winners and loser

                                                          to help PLAYERS, as I am the LAST players advocate

                                                          got it???
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65084

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by firedawg
                                                            There you go again
                                                            Are you fukkin stupid?
                                                            I hit that sweet spot in alcohol where I am trying to talk calmly
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                                                            • GreatWallofTrump
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 02-27-16
                                                              • 729

                                                              #31
                                                              Everyone has a losing record over time anyway so what does it matter. And tickets are relative. A 100 buck ticket to someone may be one unit and to others like lakerboy, it may be an ‘all in’ bet. So posting tickets is dumb too. I follow JJGolds daily best pick post. I won last night tailing some guy I never heard of. Everyone’s got an angle on something. Good luck boys.
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                                                              • teecee
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-18-09
                                                                • 6298

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                Na. posting tickets is too extreme. I for one like to keep AMOUNTS I bet and amounts I keep offshore in general private, and I am sure many others feel the same way.
                                                                The person who recommended tickets be posted never posts plays.
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                                                                • teecee
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-18-09
                                                                  • 6298

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jts1207
                                                                  Posting legit records would get rid of the trash....which would be a good thing imo
                                                                  For awhile I posted a legit record and it was trash. I had to change my methods and have not revisited the thread as my numbers would be off.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                    you get nothing for posting winners

                                                                    you get nothing for posting losers


                                                                    so who cares?

                                                                    let people do what they want
                                                                    You get forum respect if you are a solid capper.. You get gratification for helping others maybe at times.. You can also grab picks and make money when other people post pending and when you double check their picks and they look good where as you'd never see that otherwise..

                                                                    There are some advantage to posting pending on this forum.. If no one ever posted pending then this would be just a social forum for gamblers.. That's no fun.. Can't make money with that...
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      No need for tickets plus that illegal just post tracking records but no one are good handicappers
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