My Players and my Nightmare with www.betmania.com

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  • ScamMania
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-15-06
    • 4

    #1
    My Players and my Nightmare with www.betmania.com
    I have made good amounts of money with them over the period of 2-3 months with betmania.com, always spoke high of them there, recommended this book to family and friends and everything was awesome until I started to withdraw some funds from there. At first I wasn`t aware of the havoc this ridiculous company would play with me! I received the first $6000 or so, and $1500 here and there too but little did I know that when I asked to withdraw the rest of my balance and to ask why I was getting short stacked I would be confronted with the apparent owner of BetMania, Mike Mitchell.Mike took my success pretty personally at first which I liked and he even offered game tickets and the works for helping him make money. We must have talked for hours, he would communicate with me for the first
    month and later when I started to discover errors in my payments I have received I was always trying to get him on the phone and email and he was always gone,sick,or in a meeting. He finally decided to email me back and refused to discuss the matter with me. The Customer Service staff Fred and Caly told me that from this day on I could only speak to Mike. The whole thing got more and more out of hand, in the end he tried to make me send more money from players in return promising higher limits for some players and quicker payouts for myself. Good thing that I didn’t fall for the trap because he would have confiscated every Cent he could get his hands on. The reason the ruffly 40 active players I had there at one time left was because of line movements after the bet was placed the players would get a delay and the line would change up ot 40 cents a line and no withdraws for an entire month after the deposit even though it does not show this anywhere on the website. I explained to him I work very hard on getting them players and I didn't feal it was my responsiblity to keep the players in. At one time I had almost 15 players that deposited $5,000.00 daily and now its down to 1 active player that deposits $5,000 or more and he plans on leaving and never coming back when his 30 days is up. I was offered 50% net loss, then I noticed I was getting 30%, then I noticed I was getting 30% plus they were taking out the bonuses as well on my end so I was getting around 10-15%. Im owed apx $15,000.00 if not more from them and I have a feeling Im going to have to fight tooth and nail to get whats left owed to me. If Mike is not willing to treat my clients or myself the way he promissed he would even with him making over $75,000.00 dollars from my players I have a good fealing your not going to get treated well there either. Take this expensive and financial distruction and loss I have just been victimized of and not risk your funds with Mike or Betmania. Thank You for reading my complaint and have a happy holiday.

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Son play at books I promote and you have NO Issues, when you play at lesser books like this expect trouble.
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    • JoshW
      SBR MVP
      • 08-10-05
      • 3431

      #3
      If ownership was working this closely with you then they had to believe these were all real players and not some syndicate of players just turning the same money over. That being the case, you have a good case to get paid I would think. Of course referral/percentage of loss is the toughest money to get out of any sportsbook.
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      • ttmopp
        SBR Hustler
        • 07-15-06
        • 61

        #4
        ....trying to figure out if this is a real story or what I mean, why is it almost an exact copy of romaine's 5dimes story ?
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        • ScamMania
          SBR Rookie
          • 12-15-06
          • 4

          #5
          tt yes its real and yes I copied that guys first paragraph as he described what happened to him exactly what happened to me.

          Lakerfan, that is the money they cleared after paying me semi what the owed. I had only 2 guys cashout in almost 3 months and that is how much they cleared plus on free play bonuses were also took out of my end so they made much more.

          Makes me sick that he could be such an asshole after I have dedicated my entire 3 months time 60 hours plus per week on his site and he thinks he has the right to undertake my cut.
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          • Tchocky
            SBR MVP
            • 02-14-06
            • 2371

            #6
            I think the name of the book "betmania" should have raised a red flag.
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            • ttmopp
              SBR Hustler
              • 07-15-06
              • 61

              #7
              Good luck getting the money they owe you. This book sends me a lot of spam, don't know how they got my email as I've never even visited their webpage.
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              • Dark Horse
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-14-05
                • 13764

                #8
                Originally posted by ScamMania
                tt yes its real and yes I copied that guys first paragraph as he described what happened to him exactly what happened to me.
                Are you just playing around?

                Or are you saying that you work very hard on convincing squares to drop their money, so you can get a cut of their losses? If so, you haven't been victimized, because you never put your own money on the line. If so, it is you who is the victimizing party.

                Strong lean: go f*ck yourself.
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                • ScamMania
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-15-06
                  • 4

                  #9
                  What is wrong with you other than your a normal gambling degenerate who losses money on a regular basis? I provide a service, 12 websites to be precise and put many hours in helping players choose places to wager at and to have fun. I have bills and expenses that come along weekly just like any average joe who runs a business. Don't try and make me look like that bad guy cause I got cheated out of over 15k. Any website or gambling forum you go to has advertisers up for bills and profit don't try and go there cause you just make yourself look silly like Mike has been able to do the past month.
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                  • Dark Horse
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-14-05
                    • 13764

                    #10
                    You want sports bettors to lose money so you can collect your percentage. So you open up not one, not two, but twelve websites to prey on squares.

                    You're nothing but the cheater who complains he got cheated.
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                    • beetman
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 05-31-06
                      • 220

                      #11
                      I don't really see the problem here. When I get +3 +105 at a square book when the sharp books have no better than +3 -105, I'm preying on the squares who laid -3 -125 at that book. I have no problems with agents as long as they're honest and pay reliably.
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                      • Dark Horse
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-14-05
                        • 13764

                        #12
                        Originally posted by beetman
                        I don't really see the problem here. When I get +3 +105 at a square book when the sharp books have no better than +3 -105, I'm preying on the squares who laid -3 -125 at that book.
                        In other words, we should all thank Scam because he brings in the public that we can beat?

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                        • ScamMania
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 12-15-06
                          • 4

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          In other words, we should all thank Scam because he brings in the public that we can beat?

                          Let me get this straight, your now upset cause I sent a so called B rated book non sharp players? I try to avoid steam players and sharps shame on me for not being stupid.

                          I don't have time to respond to your silliness, I respect your thoughts but lets try and keep your feeble minded threads to a minimum.
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                          • Dark Horse
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-14-05
                            • 13764

                            #14
                            You're not a gambler, you prey on gamblers, and admittedly focus on squares, yet you want sympathy from gamblers?

                            The reality is that folks like you give internet betting a bad name.

                            You're a vulture without honor. And you will reap what you sow.
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                            • bigboydan
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 55420

                              #15
                              12.16.2006 (11:56 AM CST)

                              BetMania (SBR rating C+) cancels player’s pending wager on the Suns/Kings Under 219, stating that the bet was on a "steam play." Below is the message left in the user’s account.

                              "Please read this important message: Your Suns Total bet was deleted...obvious steam play. If you continue to bet Steam here your account will be closed"

                              http://www.sbrodds.com/ shows the average betting line is currently set between 217 and 218. Line history quotes the market average at 219 only 15 minutes ago. BetMania is expected to honor this bet and not use subjective terms to get out of honoring betting odds that hold value for the bettor. Players should expect a confirmed bet to stand unless it is due to an "obvious", or "gross," error.
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                              • Yoshi
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-29-06
                                • 548

                                #16
                                Its funny, some minutes ago there was a thread at the RX "Is Betmania good?".

                                Everyone basically said No, and now the whole thing is gone lmao. Of course they are a sponsor there.
                                That forum is as ****** up as Betmania.
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                                • Dark Horse
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-14-05
                                  • 13764

                                  #17
                                  6/27/2006 4:10:00 PM
                                  BetMania enters SBR Rating Guide at B-
                                  BetMania is a new sportsbook from Skybook (SBR rating A-) ownership that aims to fill the reduced juice gap left after InternationalIslandSportsbook was absorbed by SkyBook last week. BetMania operates independently in a separate office in Escazu, Costa Rica; and is managed by Head Linesman, Eric and Operations Director, Mike Mitchell, both formerly of Millennium Sports. The book uses ASI software. SBR will visit BetMania in July. 6/27/2006 4:10:00 PM
                                  Did BM start out at B- because of Skybook? If so, would it hurt bettors if a book had to work harder for a good rating? (Nine seems to be another recent example).
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                                  • ronald
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-31-05
                                    • 4919

                                    #18
                                    Betmania is..........ROGUE!!!

                                    I used to play at almost any book out there. Now I limit myself to less than 10 shops. Avoid Betmania and their shit shop.
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                                    • beetman
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 05-31-06
                                      • 220

                                      #19
                                      The RX is quite ridiculous with the lengths they go to protect their advertisers. I posted something negative about one of their advertiser books, not realizing that the book in question advertised there, and they edited my post within minutes of me posting it.
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                                      • Yoshi
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-29-06
                                        • 548

                                        #20
                                        RX is the biggest shit forum out there, EOG has some horrible sponsors too but they dont edit/delete posts.
                                        Post one thing they dont like, and you are on some kind of review...your posts wont appear until one of those fuckers decided to let it go through - crazy.
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                                        • beetman
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 05-31-06
                                          • 220

                                          #21
                                          EOG is pretty bad too though, they'll quickly move stuff to "the dump" or lock threads if you criticize their crappy sponsors. SBG Global has a long history of problems and are rated D- or something like that, and the EOG moderators have been very liberal about locking threads about SBG Global or moving them to "the dump", claiming that "thousands of people have used this book for years without problems."
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                                          • justbet
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 03-04-06
                                            • 185

                                            #22
                                            i dont see why dark horse is being such a jackass. the guy is just an affiliate who brings players to books. he doesnt tell them losing picks or trick them into losing money so he makes money. he just gets them to play at a site and if they lose he gets a cut. good luck getting your money bud
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