Cavs still favored to win east after roster overhaul ROTFLMFAO

[homie1975]

Per westgate vegas

Cavs and raptors tied for best odds to win east.. +180 each. Celtics +200

4 new faces. 6 guys gone. 3/5 of starting lineup brand new.

But expected to go to 4th straight finals lmfao

[JMobile]

The King still in Cleveland until he goes elsewhere.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

There was discussion of this in another thread:

* Here's the reality. SOMEWHERE in the #s posted...there is some line value.

Try to identify it. East is not strong. Cavs +180 might be value. If it's a 40% shot...that's good value.

Are u saying Field -200 (vs Clev) is a good play? If u don't like field...who is the OTHER team to bet? I mentioned that East COULD pay a nice longshot price.

[jjgold]

I think the Cavs did get better

[rm18]

They did not get better Crowder and Shumpert the only good defenders on the roster.

[Hman]

There was discussion of this in another thread:

* Here's the reality. SOMEWHERE in the #s posted...there is some line value.

Try to identify it. East is not strong. Cavs +180 might be value. If it's a 40% shot...that's good value.

Are u saying Field -200 (vs Clev) is a good play? If u don't like field...who is the OTHER team to bet? I mentioned that East COULD pay a nice longshot price.

The most valuable route is to go with the Finals Matchup:

1unit Toronto Vs Golden State
1unit Boston Vs Golden State

Before the trade these payed +797 & +319 but not sure now.

[LT Profits]

The most valuable route is to go with the Finals Matchup:

1unit Toronto Vs Golden State
1unit Boston Vs Golden State

Before the trade these payed +797 & +319 but not sure now.

Cleveland Cavaliers vs Golden State Warriors	+244
Boston Celtics vs Golden State Warriors	+341
Toronto Raptors vs Golden State Warriors	+549
Cleveland Cavaliers vs Houston Rockets	+1440
Boston Celtics vs Houston Rockets	+1870
Milwaukee Bucks vs Golden State Warriors	+2650
Washington Wizards vs Golden State Warriors	+2650
Toronto Raptors vs Houston Rockets	+2800
Cleveland Cavaliers vs San Antonio Spurs	+3800

[HurryUpAndDrink]

Warriors vs Celtics or Raptors is my prediction. Cavs wont get there NO WAY.

Huge value to bet those 2!

[Buckeye]

The Cavs did get better. Crowder has been a bum since he has been traded to Cleveland and Shumpert was no longer playing. The infusion of youth in the roster, besides the fact they dumped some old veterans that were longer relevant (Rose, Wade & Frye), and they also dumped some negative influences in the locker room (Thomas and Crowder) is going to hep the overall atmosphere of the team. That team was going nowhere for sure, and it is not a guarantee that this team will do anything but it will definitely put some like back into Lebron going forward!

[krk1030]

They got way better.

[JIBBBY]

They desperately needed changes.. I'm upset that they made trades as I was enjoying fading them on the road and making money.. ..

[mngambler]

Who's gonna win the East then? the f*cking Raptors? LOL

[Dilo]

Cavs have all the excuses to flop this season. I don’t there’s enough time for all of them to learn basketball together.

[homie1975]

How do know if they got better?
They haven't even been on the court to see if there's any chemistry

[jjgold]

I would not fade them now

Change could turn the team around

[stepaside777]

anyways whats the hype with gsw? one key player injury and everything changes

[2daBank]

Of course they gonna win the east. Lebron still plays for cavs right? This ain't rocket science, whatever team bron on goes to finals. Maybe it easy for me cause I don't pay attention to this shit so I don't let these meaningless games sway my opinion. Don't kid yourself, none these garbage east teams ya'll so enamored with can beat the best player on planet in a 7 game series.

[2daBank]

They got way better.

It doesn't even matter who they got, fact of matter is it made bron happy so the east is his.

[ikid2groove415]

All the guys they lost was worthless

[Chi_archie]

addition by subtraction alone

plus the guys they got are pretty good. its just a matter how the chemistry on court works out.

with a rag tag group tonight without the recent additions they seem to have more heart and hustle

[Mac4Lyfe]

How do know if they got better?
They haven't even been on the court to see if there's any chemistry

If you watched the team this year (I've watched every one of their games) you would know they got considerably better. IT and Crowder were fukking horrible. Neither could play defense and their offense was atrocious. IT was injured but it was clear that he wasn't getting any healthier in time for the playoffs. Who knows if he'll ever get back to 100%. Crowder was just awful. He is a tweener that just can't do anything right. He couldn't guard guards and he couldn't guard forwards. He couldn't shoot 3's nor mid range and he played below the rim. I thought he was going to be like Draymond. He is nowhere near Draymond in any facet. Then IT started shit calling out Cav players defensive effort when his was the worst. He had to go. The only guy traded that will be missed is Frye. He was a solid bench guy that was always professional and played with pride. The other guys were throw aways. Addition by subtraction.

Every Cav fan loved these moves. They won't need many games to gel.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Rodney Hood and Clarkson can fill it up. The Cav's needed guys that can get their own shots. Then you add Nance and Hill who both play defense unlike JR and TT. That's a fierce combination. I think they can really compete with GSW now.

[dmncnlou]

We could get 5 guys off of Sbr and make it out of the East. The East has been terrible for 20 years.

[eidolon]

Only team that has a small chance of upsetting Golden State is Oklahoma; that is only because they can run with them.

[2daBank]

Rodney Hood and Clarkson can fill it up. The Cav's needed guys that can get their own shots. Then you add Nance and Hill who both play defense unlike JR and TT. That's a fierce combination. I think they can really compete with GSW now.

You would think hood could learn to play d. He certainly has the body type and athletic ability to be a good defender.

[JIBBBY]

They'll probably win the East now.. After seeing them play hard and win tonight in Atlanta and with the new roster changes that didn't even kick in yet I see them getting a new lease on life.. Cavs are back..

[lakerboy]

Who's gonna win the East then? the f*cking Raptors? LOL

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[Louisvillekid1]

Lol cavs roster is so much better now

how they pulled this off is uncanny

if Bron stays , but I’m sure he was behind this

[Louisvillekid1]

They got picks , better defense , kept love , and bron has no internal comp

[homie1975]

It'll be interesting to see how cavs look today

[Conqueror]

It'll be interesting to see how cavs look today

They played well today but It's still too early to tell.

[ikid2groove415]

Well all know they will be in the finals again vs the warriors yawn

[ikid2groove415]

Only team that has a small chance of upsetting Golden State is Oklahoma; that is only because they can run with them.

Prisoner of the moment Only thing that beats golden state is multiple injuries to the big 4!!

[Venom72]

Only team that has a small chance of upsetting Golden State is Oklahoma; that is only because they can run with them.

Okc??? Yea right, that team is not beating gs in a 7 game series, HOUSTON is the team that got the best chance to beat them because they can actually run with them, not okc, that team is nowhere near as good as they should be

[magaman]

professional bookmakers say that Cavs are still at or near the top in the East

homie1975 laughs thinking Cavs do not belong there...

hmmm this is a tough one... but I think I will side with the professional bookmakers