Knicks should trade Porzingis

[GzaTheGenius]

Guy has regressed so much, it's painful to watch him play sometimes. He's soft

Might as well try to get something for him while there is still a little hype behind him

[ikid2groove415]

He’s a top 15 player- no way he gets traded insane plus he’s still very young

[shadymcgrady]

He is soft and not very durable. I looked at him as closer to dirk before the season started, may have to adjust expectations and compare him more to Pau gasol at this point

[GzaTheGenius]

He’s a top 15 player- no way he gets traded insane plus he’s still very young

He'll end up in the graveyard with all the other European "superstars"

Maybe if he was coached better or played to his strengths more

The amount of times he tries to play ISO from the top of the key and dribbles the ball away makes me want to stab myself with a unicorn horn

[GzaTheGenius]

Not to mention the amount of 40 ft 3 pointers he Jacks up

Could block shots well, but at over 7 feet tall you gotta average more than 7 rebounds a game

[Ratpack]

Pau was REALLY good when he was younger he took memphis to the playoffs EVERY year porzingis isn't even close to how good Pau was people always forget how good he really was

[shocka1212]

Yea, get the fuk outta here with this thread

[GzaTheGenius]

Yea, get the fuk outta here with this thread

Valid points

[jtoler]

He's not a top 15 player lol.

[gauchojake]

He misses Phil

[jjgold]

too many jump shots and cannot win that way in NBA

[Hman]

Not really much to trade for.

There's less than a handful (maybe only 2) of players that can turn around a franchise almost single-handedly and you're not landing them of course.

I've watched the Orlando Magic trade away really good players for years & get nowhere.

[DOM-Ganador]

Have to disagree with OP.
The Knicks have to build around him and play to his strengths.
Hardly anyone is "tough" in the NBA today.

I would love to see what Stevens would come up with to utilize him on the Celts.

[MinnesotaFats]

Guy is still a young buck.... give him time here. 1st season as da man.

[GzaTheGenius]

Have to disagree with OP.
The Knicks have to build around him and play to his strengths.
Hardly anyone is "tough" in the NBA today.

I would love to see what Stevens would come up with to utilize him on the Celts.

True the whole NBA is soft as a whole

I do believe he could work out to have a decent career on a different team, Celtics or Spurs perhaps

Celt ics have a bunch of draft picks at their disposal if I'm not wrong

If he stays with NY he'll just end up being another failed Dirk comparison

Guy is still a young buck.... give him time here. 1st season as da man.

He is yes, but sure his point average has risen a bit over the last 2 years, everything else seems to have plateaued. No improvements on defense, seems to be a worse ball handler

[Hman]

Hardly anyone is "tough" in the NBA today.

Ha you are so right.

Can you imagine LeBron having to rely on driving to the lane years ago?

Guys like Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, etc would make sure he got knocked on his Azz every other possession.

Not only that, you had true centers like David Robinson, Olajuwon, Ewing, Shaq, Mourning, Mutombo, etc. who would be there waiting if he got thru the first wave of defenders, to swat his junk away.

Totally different finesse game today.

[The Kraken]

too many jump shots and cannot win that way in NBA

True, GS is a perfect example

[GzaTheGenius]

True, GS is a perfect example

GS is just a ridiculous team, they could remove the 3pt line and they'd still be just as good IMO

Funny thing GS is best 3pt shooting team and they are in 1st place.. guess who is #2

Yup the Sacramento Kings, who are what dead last in the NBA

Lots of variable's out there, can't win on just jump shooting. Defense will always trump all

[klemopixx]

He's misused, he needs better coaching. Use him like the Sixers use Embiid. Let him sit in the post and draw fouls, set screens high, shoot an occasional three, crash the boards and be a menace to anyone who dares to go to the rim. Put him on the Spurs, I bet Popovich would have him playing to his strengths. He should be drawing the double-team down low and passing to an open guy for the three.

[jtoler]

He's misused, he needs better coaching. Use him like the Sixers use Embiid. Let him sit in the post and draw fouls, set screens high, shoot an occasional three, crash the boards and be a menace to anyone who dares to go to the rim. Put him on the Spurs, I bet Popovich would have him playing to his strengths. He should be drawing the double-team down low and passing to an open guy for the three.

Agreed, then he'd average more than 6 boards a game.

[jjgold]

He is already burnt out

He even said it

Tired

[krk1030]

team is trash. he cant do it all.

needs to be playing center too

[shocka1212]

He is already burnt out

He even said it

Tired

already a better Knick than that bum Carmelo ever was.

[GzaTheGenius]

team is trash. he cant do it all.

needs to be playing center too

Micheal Beasley outplaying him right now

But yeah Knicks are cursed or something

Poor Kristaps

[shocka1212]

Micheal Beasley outplaying him right now

But yeah Knicks are cursed or something

Poor Kristaps

Holy fuk, let me leave this thread before my head explodes.

[GzaTheGenius]

Holy fuk, let me leave this thread before my head explodes.

Just being honest buddy, it is a very sad truth
Beasley last 6 games

Game
Min
Pts
Reb
Ast
1/10
vs
CHI
39
26
12
1

1/5
@
MIA
23
20
10
2
1/3
@
WAS
25
20
9
3
1/2
vs
SAS
26
18
9
2
12/30
@
NOP
20
15
5
1
12/28
@
SAS
33
23
12
4


Porzingis


Ast
1/10
vs
CHI
44
24
6
1
1/7
@
DAL
38
29
8
1
1/5
@
MIA
37
15
7
1
1/3
@
WAS
36
16
6
1
1/2
vs
SAS
36
13
9
1
12/30
@
NOP
32
30
7
3
12/28
@
SAS
34
18
7
1


And Beasley plays less minutes

[shocka1212]

Not quoting that post for the sake of saving your eyes. Those stats don't take usage rate as well as offensive efficiency into account or even the other teams defense for that matter. Who do you think commands more of a double team, Porzingis or Beasley. Yes, Beasley has filled it up recently, but thats because Porzingis commands the double team and Tim Hardaway Jr. is injured so there really isn't anyone else who can be a viable scoring option on the team at this moment.

To trade Porzingis for anyone other than LBJ, KD, Anthony Davis or Karl Anthony Towns at this point would be absurd.

[jtoler]

To trade Porzingis for anyone other than LBJ, KD, Anthony Davis or Karl Anthony Towns at this point would be absurd.

Cmon bruh.

[burmaldo]

Trading Porzingis is one of the dumbest things I’ve read on this site. Saying a lot ik.

[shadymcgrady]

Cmon bruh.

Yeah I can't agree with that list either. You're telling me you'd rather have kristaps over giannis antetokoumpo? Gtfoh

Also don't think KAT is even on cousins level let alone that elite list but that's just my opinion. The giannis one is a slam dunk

[jtoler]

I don't think he should be traded just think he could be used more effectively.

[GzaTheGenius]

Not quoting that post for the sake of saving your eyes. Those stats don't take usage rate as well as offensive efficiency into account or even the other teams defense for that matter. Who do you think commands more of a double team, Porzingis or Beasley. Yes, Beasley has filled it up recently, but thats because Porzingis commands the double team and Tim Hardaway Jr. is injured so there really isn't anyone else who can be a viable scoring option on the team at this moment.

To trade Porzingis for anyone other than LBJ, KD, Anthony Davis or Karl Anthony Towns at this point would be absurd.

You barely have to guard KP he will dribble off his own foot out of bounds half the time..

Look I'm a huge Knicks fan and I hope all goes well for the kid, I was super excited when he first came into the league. I just figured he would have progressed a little more by now.

Being on the Knicks is maybe what's keeping him from doing that

When I see them run the pick and roll from top of the key with him it's magical sometimes, they just need to work their offense out better

Think he'd fare better elsewhere is all

[ikid2groove415]

too many jump shots and cannot win that way in NBA

Warriors?

[shocka1212]

Yeah I can't agree with that list either. You're telling me you'd rather have kristaps over giannis antetokoumpo? Gtfoh

Also don't think KAT is even on cousins level let alone that elite list but that's just my opinion. The giannis one is a slam dunk

forgot about Giannis to be completely honest here.. That should be a given though. Only reason I didn't have Westbrook on that list is because I think he's only going to regress from this point forward. Unfortunately age will not help his game like LBJ's.

[shocka1212]

You barely have to guard KP he will dribble off his own foot out of bounds half the time..

Look I'm a huge Knicks fan and I hope all goes well for the kid, I was super excited when he first came into the league. I just figured he would have progressed a little more by now.

Being on the Knicks is maybe what's keeping him from doing that

When I see them run the pick and roll from top of the key with him it's magical sometimes, they just need to work their offense out better

Think he'd fare better elsewhere is all

You must not have had to watch the likes of Galinari, Al Harrington and David Lee at the Garden. Id rather not go than be subject to a team like that and thats pretty much all you'd have if you traded Porzingis. Just some food for thought.