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  • shocka1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-06-12
    • 16788

    #36
    Originally posted by Snowball
    Belichick is a losing coach without Brady
    those are the stats bud.
    Don Shula with bill Walsh as assistant coAch couldn't win in Cleveland... don't put that evil on anyone
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    • krk1030
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-13-08
      • 17610

      #37
      This was speculated about weeks ago at least about the trade.

      Made 0 sense why they would keep jimmy g all this time and then trade him for a 2nd round pick...and trade Brisett.

      Obviously Bellicheck never planned to trade him
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      • Snowball
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        • 11-15-09
        • 30042

        #38
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Brady is all you need

        Without him zero superbowls
        yes sir
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        • DOM-Ganador
          SBR MVP
          • 05-30-12
          • 4479

          #39
          Dan Patrick poll of the day:

          Who had the most influence on the Patriots success ?

          Belichick getting around 80%

          He is the architect and CEO. Makes sense to me.

          Funny how seems like 70% of SBR considers TB Alex Smith.
          The other 30% think he is all you need to win SBs.

          The answer is somewhere in the middle.
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          • JIBBBY
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            • 12-10-09
            • 83691

            #40
            Reports are out that the Brady bunch are feuding.. Not good going into the playoffs..
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            • cincinnatikid513
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              • 11-23-17
              • 45360

              #41
              pats should of kept jimmy signed him to a long term deal and kicked brady to the curb next year pats made a big mistake and will pay for it when brady becomes avg
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #42
                Billy 500 type coach without Brady

                All the so called Hall of Fame coaches all had Hall of Fame players end of story players win championships not coaches

                Lol Billy Coached Brady throwing perfect passes every game and making every right decision he could’ve won every Super Bowl he played in many flukes cost him titles
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                • cincinnatikid513
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                  • 11-23-17
                  • 45360

                  #43
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Billy 500 type coach without Brady

                  All the so called Hall of Fame coaches all had Hall of Fame players end of story players win championships not coaches

                  Lol Billy Coached Brady throwing perfect passes every game and making every right decision he could’ve won every Super Bowl he played in many flukes cost him titles
                  put brady on a different team and tom might have zero superbowls
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                  • DOM-Ganador
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-30-12
                    • 4479

                    #44
                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                    pats should of kept jimmy signed him to a long term deal and kicked brady to the curb next year pats made a big mistake and will pay for it when brady becomes avg
                    ANY other professional sports league and that is the way it would have gone down.
                    Soccer. No Cap. NBA. Cavs were like 30 mil over last year. MLB. Please.

                    BB would have had an open competition next year.

                    Trading TB was a non starter for multiple reasons, the biggest being he is probably going to win the MVP this year.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #45
                      Brady can win anywhere

                      He played with least talented players out of any sport

                      Put him on healthy Giants team they go 19-0

                      Denver 17-2

                      Dallas 19-0

                      Greatest sports player of all times because the degree of difficulty QB NFL
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83691

                        #46
                        Brady is 40 years old now right? He won't be able to play for much longer.. Trading away their solid #2 quarterback behind Brady got coach B pissed off.. I don't blame him... Look what that back up is doing in SF now.. 5 straight wins...

                        Brady felt threatened and demanded him traded.. So the feud brews.. It's done coach B should get over it... They are going into the playoffs and all need to be on the same page now...
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                        • shadymcgrady
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-27-12
                          • 10036

                          #47
                          Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                          OK Shady.Sure TB never had all the natural talent as some other QBs. No sheit. He is basically Herman Munster.
                          BUT what he did give you, and still does, is leadership, work ethic and an unbeatable calmness under pressure.
                          So calling him a check down Charlie ( Alex Smith) simply shows your disdain for the greatest NFL dynasty of all time.
                          You got me ganador, I'm biased. Nothing to hide or shy away from. Not afraid to admit it

                          Doesn't change the fact that Brady's legacy is mostly belicheat as pippens was Jordan's
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                          • DOM-Ganador
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-30-12
                            • 4479

                            #48
                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                            Harry keep deflecting. The pats did NOT deny the full story
                            The Patriots responded following the release of an ESPN report Friday that details strife among coach Bill Belichick, quarterback Tom Brady, and owner Robert Kraft. It was called “a joint statement” from Brady, Kraft, and Belichick.
                            “For the past 18 years, the three of us have enjoyed a very good and productive working relationship. In recent days, there have been multiple media reports that have speculated theories that are unsubstantiated, highly exaggerated, or flat out inaccurate. The three of us share a common goal. We look forward to the enormous challenge of competing in the postseason and the opportunity to work together in the future, just as we have for the past 18 years. It is unfortunate that there is even a need for us to respond to these fallacies. As our actions have shown, we stand united

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                            • lakerboy
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-02-09
                              • 94368

                              #49
                              That's a bullshit response. Why respond if story isn't true?
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                              • big joe 1212
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                                • 06-01-08
                                • 19380

                                #50
                                Brady was scared he was gonna get Bledsoe’d
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                                • lakerboy
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                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94368

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                  pats should of kept jimmy signed him to a long term deal and kicked brady to the curb next year pats made a big mistake and will pay for it when brady becomes avg
                                  Exactly. See Bill doesn't build loyalty. He builds winners. Kraft is in love with his son.

                                  Do Not forget the Edmonton oilers once traded Wayne Gretzky
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                                  • Kermit
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                                    • 09-27-10
                                    • 32555

                                    #52
                                    I didn't even realize that Brady led the league in passing yards this year.
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                                    • JIBBBY
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                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83691

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                      Brady was scared he was gonna get Bledsoe’d
                                      Exactly... It's all on Brady... He's a bit insecure in his older age about his job security..

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                                      • jjgold
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                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #54
                                        MVP AGAIN THIS YEAR

                                        Yeh its Billy Boy
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                                        • Snowball
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                                          • 11-15-09
                                          • 30042

                                          #55
                                          You people have no clue how much New England loves Tom Brady
                                          and Bob Kraft who singlehandedly saved this franchise from moving
                                          to St. Louis in 1993. Brady is a legend - and unlike most media today,
                                          I'm not using that phrase lightly.
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                                          • big joe 1212
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                                            • 06-01-08
                                            • 19380

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Snowball
                                            You people have no clue how much New England loves Tom Brady
                                            and Bob Kraft who singlehandedly saved this franchise from moving
                                            to St. Louis in 1993. Brady is a legend - and unlike most media today,
                                            I'm not using that phrase lightly.
                                            All of Green Bay loved Brett Favre too. They made the right decision. Now they all love Rodgers
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                                            • Dilo
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-01-13
                                              • 1384

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                              pats should of kept jimmy signed him to a long term deal and kicked brady to the curb next year pats made a big mistake and will pay for it when brady becomes avg
                                              Thats exactly what Belichick wanted to do, and Brady stopped it. Brady went to Kraft about playing long term, then Kraft went to Belichick about trading Garrapolo.
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                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                • 04-04-11
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                                                #58
                                                Is Beli jealous about Gisele? Maybe he thinks "I should be gettin' a piece of that."
                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                • MinnesotaFats
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                                                  • 12-18-10
                                                  • 14758

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                                  ANY other professional sports league and that is the way it would have gone down.
                                                  Soccer. No Cap. NBA. Cavs were like 30 mil over last year. MLB. Please.

                                                  BB would have had an open competition next year.

                                                  Trading TB was a non starter for multiple reasons, the biggest being he is probably going to win the MVP this year.
                                                  This...

                                                  They had 2 choices really. Win for a year or two w Brady and then they all walk away (including Kraft here w a sale) or ditch Brady to a competitive team w a qb problem (Jax, MN, Mia, Buff, NYG, or Cin) and go w Jimmy for 10 years.

                                                  You got your answer.

                                                  The aren't breaking up and no one is leaving...they will all retire together.
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                                                  • Snowball
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                                                    • 11-15-09
                                                    • 30042

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                    The aren't breaking up and no one is leaving...they will all retire together.
                                                    Bill can leave if he is not happy with ever being overridden by Kraft.
                                                    Just like Parcells left... his call... but he won't get to choose when
                                                    Tom Brady is not the quarterback of the New England Patriots.

                                                    That's past his pay grade.
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                                                    • shocka1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                      • 16788

                                                      #61
                                                      put Brady on the packers and they would've gone 0-16
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                                                      • Heltah Skeltah
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                                                        • 12-05-17
                                                        • 3499

                                                        #62
                                                        Bill is looking at the Giants opening and is thinking bout going to win another Superbowl in NY. 2nd overall pick this year..he can get himself a top young qb and win few more Superbowl's
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                                                        • Snowball
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                                                          • 11-15-09
                                                          • 30042

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Heltah Skeltah
                                                          Bill is looking at the Giants opening and is thinking bout going to win another Superbowl in NY. 2nd overall pick this year..he can get himself a top young qb and win few more Superbowl's
                                                          Pretty sure he still has a year under contract but if he's not happy
                                                          then we will take Giants draft picks - not a problem. Bye.
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                                                          • DOM-Ganador
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-30-12
                                                            • 4479

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                            put Brady on the packers and they would've gone 0-16
                                                            Very astute commentary. So Brady sukks ass. Amazing.
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                                                            • packerd_00
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                                                              • 05-22-13
                                                              • 17780

                                                              #65
                                                              You imagine the bidding war for a guy like Bellichick,Kraft better watch himself,one of these days he might have to deal with the fact Bill wants out,and then what.

                                                              I would love to see Bill go coach the Browns,the one guy that could bring them out of the doldrums.
                                                              Last edited by packerd_00; 01-05-18, 03:13 PM.
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                                                              • dlowilly
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                                                                • 11-09-16
                                                                • 13862

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Snowball
                                                                also on Brady not happy with Bill personally:
                                                                https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-to...124703052.html
                                                                All opinion and no evidence. Inflammatory baiting title. Journalism is dead.
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                                                                • Snowball
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                                                                  • 11-15-09
                                                                  • 30042

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                  All opinion and no evidence. Inflammatory baiting title. Journalism is dead.
                                                                  naw, it's legit, many other local sources confirm all this and more.
                                                                  but they will iron it out if Bill can handle not making 1 decision.
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                                                                  • dlowilly
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                                                                    • 11-09-16
                                                                    • 13862

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                                    naw, it's legit, many other local sources confirm all this and more.
                                                                    but they will iron it out if Bill can handle not making 1 decision.
                                                                    Even if other sources do confirm it, how about the writer sites some sort of evidence beyond what he thinks
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                                                                    • packerd_00
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                                                                      • 05-22-13
                                                                      • 17780

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                                      All of Green Bay loved Brett Favre too. They made the right decision. Now they all love Rodgers
                                                                      True enough mate,comes a time when every player has to move aside.
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388189

                                                                        #70
                                                                        lol

                                                                        everyone knows everything here

                                                                        Another BS story..like others said journalism is dead
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