Injuries too much for Dallas
not their year
Chargers scored 54 last week
this is when they pick up and become playoff outliers.
not their year
Chargers scored 54 last week
this is when they pick up and become playoff outliers.
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Looks so Square thoughComment -
I agree, probably will fade the Boys myself.. I could see the Charger D stepping up and Rivers lighting up that weak ass Cowboys secondary... In on the Da Chargers..Comment -
not really. line move doesn't make it square.Originally posted by lakerboy
lots of squares will take Dallas for snap-back game
being home on Turkey Day and the Tyron Smith hopes.Comment -
Originally posted by lakerboy
Ginger such a doofus though. JJ simply would rather lose and be THE MAN than win and give up control.
America`s team. SMFH.Comment -
agree, Chargers defense is really playing well and Cowboys are in shambles without Elliot and Smith.
"The Boss" Bosa will introduce himself to Dak "DUI" Prescott more than a few times
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Yep.Originally posted by lakerboyComment -
Smith is practicing and expected to playComment -
Chargers a road fav on short rest, what could go wrong?Comment -
It was pick em last I checked on Dimes, not a road favorite..Originally posted by SharpAnglesComment -
Cowboys are on shorter rest.Originally posted by SharpAnglesComment -
So you think rest hurts or helps teams? Is short rest bad and a longer rest good? Or the other way around?
Post your evidence, and not just some subjective presumptive "logic" or reasoning.
Post real evidence, if you have none, then don't answer the question with claims.
There are actually multiple answers and even the definition of rest isn't exactly cut and dry, but some form of real, relevant evidence could be produced nonetheless.
Depending on the answers given, this could be a learning experience for the Forum.
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So a road team at pk is not favored by the books?Originally posted by JIBBBY
Originally posted by Snowball
Not Tyron Smith if he plays, which is a possibility. I wouldn’t bet this game until his status is sure.
This thread is a classic overreaction to Chargers D abusing Nathan Peterman last week. What did that Mighty D do once the Bills average real starter got back in that game?Comment -
Cowboys seem to struggling on 0 now with Zeke out.. Cowboys O line isn't protecting Dak very well right now either..Originally posted by SharpAngles
Chargers did score 54 points last Sunday as well... That's never easy to do. Chargers are in must win mode right now if they want to sniff the playoffs.. I expect maximum effort from them tomorrow..Comment -
You're hoping an Offensive Tackle can come back from injury and play,Originally posted by SharpAngles
and we are the ones overreacting ? Think about that. One Offensive Tackle.Comment -
road favorite...I don't think so
Cowgirls is the playComment -
Chargers is the playComment -
These questions are way too subjective to each team. Some teams are better with rest and some aren’t. Time to heal injuries is a big factor, again subjective to each team.Originally posted by KVB
So you think rest hurts or helps teams? Is short rest bad and a longer rest good? Or the other way around?
Post your evidence, and not just some subjective presumptive "logic" or reasoning.
Post real evidence, if you have none, then don't answer the question with claims.
There are actually multiple answers and even the definition of rest isn't exactly cut and dry, but some form of real, relevant evidence could be produced nonetheless.
Depending on the answers given, this could be a learning experience for the Forum.
That’s why I mentioned Tyron Smith getting healthy. If he plays it’s a game changer.Originally posted by JIBBBY
Chargers offense scored 40 total and were gifted amazing starting position thanks to 4 1H TOs that didn’t go to the house. Chargers offense scored 10 2H points after the bills stopped those gifts.
Who’s hoping anything? I doubt I even play this game, just trying to point out there’s a lot of bad thinking in this thread.Originally posted by Snowball
And yeah I have a feeling that one offensive tackle, who happens to be the best in the league, could make a difference.Comment -
Rivers is a beast
Easy moneyComment -
SD now a 2 point favourite.
Dallas ML +112 is the play for this kid
No offense to anyone out there for their logic, but overreacting to a team hanging 54 is pretty typical. Dallas’ loss last week (while profitable for me) was actually not as bad as it looked. If Smith plays the Boys win convincingly, if he doesn’t play, Boys squeak one out.Comment -
winning bad is fine with me.Originally posted by SharpAngles
Happy Thanksgiving, SharpAngles.Comment -
Cowboys are an absolute lock in this spot. If you don’t see that, you’re a total fukkin retard.
You’re welcome
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I jumped on them early when they were a pick em. I didn't think the line would swing the way that it did. Sean McDermott can be thanked for those 54 points.Originally posted by Dollars2DonutsComment -
Originally posted by KVB
So you think rest hurts or helps teams? Is short rest bad and a longer rest good? Or the other way around?
Post your evidence, and not just some subjective presumptive "logic" or reasoning.
Post real evidence, if you have none, then don't answer the question with claims.
There are actually multiple answers and even the definition of rest isn't exactly cut and dry, but some form of real, relevant evidence could be produced nonetheless.
Depending on the answers given, this could be a learning experience for the Forum.
King of clarity ^^^Comment -
actually didn't go into my decision making. was already set on chargers beating Dallas before they even played buffalo. besides "oh cowboys aren't about to lose 3 in a row". what is your logic here? not being condescending, I just value your opinionOriginally posted by Dollars2DonutsComment -
This falls far short. Of course it's subjective.Originally posted by SharpAngles
The trick is to quantify the relevant subjective factors for each situation. Every situation has a set of facts, quantifying those is the objective part. The subjective part is learning what's relevant to stay ahead of the market, and adjusting accordingly as the market adjusts.
That's mostly the evidence I'm talking about. There is a specific sense to it, and a general one as well. I would also welcome the solely subjective capper's evidence supporting the prediction....other that it's just a feeling.
Maybe some teams are better with rest and some aren't. But why would that be the case? What factors lead to those instances. One example could be the depth of the team and the performance of that depth. This is more a factor in basketball but could be relevant to football if you consider injuries when facing little rest. Another example could be the difference between early and late season, that's a factor bettors a can use for a wide range of metrics. It could almost be as basic as home and road performance, but it's not as well known.
Perhaps because some are better than others there is no predictive value overall, but maybe there is for each team, predicting some statistical performance because they are good or bad with rest.
Maybe the concept of rest, as just being games taken off, is a moot point altogether. Maybe that fact has changes over the years and continues to ebb and flow, in and out of relevancy. There are many ways to handicap.
My point was about using rest as a factor, and illustrating a little bit the difference between the subjective capper accounting for some rest (some of whom can be successful, usually in streaks) and other factors to compare to the market and those seeking evidence to compare to the market.
It becomes easier using hard quantified evidence as, at the very least, a guidepost to making decisions. It's not a knock on a subjective capper, he could also talk about his prediction and evidence. I will say this, if it's moving or affecting the market, you'd want the numbers to reveal it, not just a a subjective feel.
The question still stands, if we say it's subjective, then there's still evidence. What are some of pieces posters use? Just reasoning that more rest is better doesn't fly, some athletes become cold. Reasoning itself doesn't fly, there has to be a sense of history, accounting for recent history as well.
Maybe it's too much for this thread but at the very least bettors should think about for themselves, even if subjective. Ask yourself, "why do I feel this is a factor." A little self reflection often helps in handicapping.
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Originally posted by opie1988
Originally posted by opie1988You’re welcomeComment -
Good decision making.Originally posted by shocka1212
The 54 point game may not go into your decision making, but know it may be affecting the market and the number.
What number did you get?
Good Luck Shocka!
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love the chargers tomorrow. they bust through for pressure and sacks on almost every play. cowboys miss zeke big time.Comment -
took the opening line.Originally posted by KVBGood decision making.
The 54 point game may not go into your decision making, but know it may be affecting the market and the number.
What number did you get?
Good Luck Shocka!
pk -110 at 5D. posted it in bankers thread few days ago.Comment -
shocka has probably the sharpest avatar on SBR.
tell me he ain't sharp. you can't.Comment -
Shocka, KVB hit the nail on the head here.Originally posted by KVBGood decision making.
The 54 point game may not go into your decision making, but know it may be affecting the market and the number.
What number did you get?
Good Luck Shocka!
I wasn’t specifically speaking to an overreaction from you on the 54 points, I was speaking to it’s affect on the market/price. In this case you also have a team that was blown out, at home, but by a very good team on a roll.
First I look at each game separately.
In Dallas, the Cowboys were outscored 37-9, but they were ahead in time of possession and very close in first downs. The turnover ratio of 4:0, and a couple of poor coaching decisions (which Garrett always makes) , in conjunction with too many dink and dunk passes from the ‘Boys, dictated this outcome. In my opinion, they Cowboys also passed the eye test a LOAD better than 37-9.
In Charger-Land, the Chargers crushed the Bills at home.
1. They were at home and now are going to be on the road.
2. They played a poor Bills team with major QB issues.
3. They won the total yardage battle, by a mere 36 yards. 36 yards to a team with the issues that the Bills have? That’s a major concern.
4. They took one penalty. For a team as dumb as they are, that is unsustainable.
5. They won the turnover battle 6-0. Which is wonderful, and says something about their D...but just like the Dallas game (4:0) is that sustainable? Remember that until last game they were only +1 in turnovers in the season.
6. They average a sack per game. This is huge. I don’t see the Cowboys O-line issues being nearly as big as others do, especially as I believe that Smith will get a number of snaps during the game.
Beyond all of this, my gut says Cowboys, and maybe even decisively.
Anyway guys, everything in sports wagering is subjective.....two great handicappers can disagree big-time on 30% of their picks, and yet both can be winning Cappers. GL
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I prefer to play chargers on road, they have no hfa so you paying a premium for something that don't exist at that soccer stadium.Originally posted by SharpAnglesComment -
Oh I can because like you, he loses so much. Many people in here are absolute idiots. Asking questions about who gets hurt the most by the short week, when every moron in the world knows that a short week favorites the home team because they do NOT have to travel, and basically get an additional day to do what they want with. As far as the line is concerned, there are a hell of a lot more L.A. homers in Vegas than Dallas homers and that affects the line. Remember over 90% of the idiots that wager LOSE over the long run. There are reasons why they lose. Wagering on your home town team is a big reason.Originally posted by SnowballComment -
You mean OP's write up why the Chargers are the play didn't convince you?Originally posted by BigdaddyQHComment
