Is it because baseball doesn't want technology in the game? Is it because the technology isn't ready? Whatever the reason as a diehard baseball fan it is really getting tough to watch these umpires behind the plate keep botching the call. Not one play or even one game but just over time it seems to be pretty bad.
Can't take it anymore....why isn't pitch trax used to call balls and strikes?
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Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#1Can't take it anymore....why isn't pitch trax used to call balls and strikes?Last edited by Mr. Teaser; 05-17-12, 05:25 PM.Tags: None -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
- 09-20-05
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#2strike zone is based on batter stance, which i don't think it really accounts for though it would be more accurate overallComment -
PauulzcappinSBR Posting Legend
- 04-23-10
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#3I think managers would be able to have two challenges a game or some shit.Comment -
iifoldSBR Posting Legend
- 04-25-10
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#4sometimes there isn't a better mousetrap...
as proven by the current state of our country...
some things are better left alone, like strike zones and the United States of America...Comment -
dodger33SBR MVP
- 08-14-09
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#5Someone is throwing a perfect game and he is 3-2 with 2 outs in the 9th and the pitch is a centimeter outside the zone...ball 4. no thanks i will stay with a humanComment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
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#6I hate the bad balls and strike calls too. But I'm not in favor of a trax count. If you really think about it there is no way to get a perfect electronic call. Think of the Nolan Ryan curve. Do you call a strike if it catches the back of the strike zone even though its a foot high at the front of the strike zone? Then you have guys that 5'5" and guys that are 6'6". Would you adjust it every time?
A better solution is stop rotating umpires. Find the guys who call balls and strikes accurately and leave them behind the plate. And constantly review them and like pilots, send them to a week of review every 4 weeks. Make them watch every call they made over and over. Basically get the best and increase their ongoing training.Comment -
GOIRISHSBR MVP
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#7i like baseball the way that it is, bad calls are apart of the game. Football is already screwed up and goes to too many comercial breaks every other snap for reviews.Comment -
antifoilSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
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#8i am for robot umps. the best thing about it is how to use a catcher when there is no one on base. teams would put that player in the field as an extra defender. more strategy.
joe madden's head would explode with the possibilities.Comment -
robmpinkSBR Posting Legend
- 01-09-07
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#9That would be weird. I remember an episode of the Jetsons cartoon where the umpire was a robot.
Heck, maybe the players were robots as well.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#10I hate the bad balls and strike calls too. But I'm not in favor of a trax count. If you really think about it there is no way to get a perfect electronic call. Think of the Nolan Ryan curve. Do you call a strike if it catches the back of the strike zone even though its a foot high at the front of the strike zone? Then you have guys that 5'5" and guys that are 6'6". Would you adjust it every time?
A better solution is stop rotating umpires. Find the guys who call balls and strikes accurately and leave them behind the plate. And constantly review them and like pilots, send them to a week of review every 4 weeks. Make them watch every call they made over and over. Basically get the best and increase their ongoing training.
But what if in a few years technology could track a Nolan Ryan type curve. Would you be in favor of it?Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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It wouldn't slow the game down at all. If anything it would speed it up because there wouldn't be much to argue. Balls and strikes that is.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
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dodger33SBR MVP
- 08-14-09
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#13Umpires expand or contract their zones based upon the consistency of a pitcher. Pitchers who can consistently hit the black just a hair below the knees should be rewarded. robots would not reward that.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#14OK we can agree to disagree. I don't think any strike zone should be expanded or contracted. I think if a ball is a ball then it needs to be called as such....and it wouldn't really be a robot now would it.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#15The time is getting closerComment -
klemopixxSBR MVP
- 10-02-14
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#16When the labor contract is up it might come down to that but baseball is such an old fashioned purist sport. It would never get voted in. Plus it's fun to see a manager argue with an ump, gets the crowd going!Comment -
ACoochySBR Posting Legend
- 08-19-09
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#17Yay....
No more being treated like 2nd rate morons by inept umpiring decisions for which there is ZERO recourse in placeComment -
Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer
- 02-01-09
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#18As much as I hate bad umps that make the wrong calls, I think in the end it evens out and there really isnt any advantage.
Electronic strike zones are just too much of a change for baseball that took years to implement instant replay. Baseball will never go to electronic strike zones...Comment -
iloseagainRestricted User
- 06-29-10
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A better solution is stop rotating umpires. Find the guys who call balls and strikes accurately and leave them behind the plate. And constantly review them and like pilots, send them to a week of review every 4 weeks. Make them watch every call they made over and over. Basically get the best and increase their ongoing training.
and what are they gonna review their calls from the camera that is behind the pitcher (like a TV camera view)? There is no angle from the umps eyes, which is all that would really matter in this scenario.Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
- 01-18-10
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#20That's what pisses me off. Umps/refs/officials aren't held accountable at all for their actions. They can't wait to make themselves a part of the game, then they run off the field like chickenshit pussies afterward and don't have to face any form of media. It's a goddam joke.Comment -
larco15SBR Sharp
- 12-06-09
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#22All of these umpires are 100 pounds overweight. They look like water buffaloes. You really think they can uphold the integrity of the game? There is a negative correlation between fat people and integrity. Two unwritten rules: 1. Umpires will hold grudges and act on them, be it on purpose or otherwise. 2. In a blowout in the 8th and 9th, the strike zone will mysteriously coordinate with the umpire´s taxi or flight plans.Comment -
johnnyvegas13BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#23It's cause umps expand zone in 3-0 count and contract in 0-2Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#24It's needs to happen.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#25The tide is turning with the public. Hopefully it's just a couple years away until they fine tune the technology... though I that's somewhat of a bs excuseComment -
unde0087BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-27-08
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#26How dare you criticize the umping on wristband night. You have a bad case of Umpaphobe going on and it really offends me.Comment -
SBR_Guest_ProSBR MVP
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#27give it time and it will happen. They never thought they would over turn calls that an Ump made but now they have New York to call to overturn calls.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#28I think it's on the table after the seasons over to have an automatic Umire which would be excellent and speed the game upComment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#29And take away the art of pitch framing?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#30Umpires too inconsistent
It wil make game much faster and more fair for each pitcherComment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
- 10-30-05
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#31Greg Maddux would disagreeComment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#32I posted this 6 years ago. Watching another umpire butcher the strike zone yet again. I can only hope it's somewhere in the not to far distant future. Public opinion sure has changed in the time I posted this.Comment -
HmanSBR Posting Legend
- 11-04-17
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#33MLB is the only league which allows it's officials to alter the rules & make up their own on a game to game basis.
The main reason I despise it.Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
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#34Can’t wait till they pull heads out asses and they put a high school kid behind plate w a iPad. Nothing more frustrating than watching a game and seeing exactly what a ball and strike is while lousy ump has no clue.. only bad thing about that is umps are a great capping tool so it might hurt me if their tendencies and biases were taken out of game. On other hand it be nice to cap a game knowing neither pitcher will be unfairly squeezed or worrying about these inconsistent fukk ups.Comment -
HmanSBR Posting Legend
- 11-04-17
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#35Can’t wait till they pull heads out asses and they put a high school kid behind plate w a iPad. Nothing more frustrating than watching a game and seeing exactly what a ball and strike is while lousy ump has no clue.. only bad thing about that is umps are a great capping tool so it might hurt me if their tendencies and biases were taken out of game. On other hand it be nice to cap a game knowing neither pitcher will be unfairly squeezed or worrying about these inconsistent fukk ups.Comment
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