Can't take it anymore....why isn't pitch trax used to call balls and strikes?

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  • Mr. Teaser
    SBR MVP
    • 08-16-09
    • 1668

    #1
    Can't take it anymore....why isn't pitch trax used to call balls and strikes?
    Is it because baseball doesn't want technology in the game? Is it because the technology isn't ready? Whatever the reason as a diehard baseball fan it is really getting tough to watch these umpires behind the plate keep botching the call. Not one play or even one game but just over time it seems to be pretty bad.
    Last edited by Mr. Teaser; 05-17-12, 05:25 PM.
  • rm18
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-05
    • 22291

    #2
    strike zone is based on batter stance, which i don't think it really accounts for though it would be more accurate overall
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    • Pauulzcappin
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-23-10
      • 20295

      #3
      I think managers would be able to have two challenges a game or some shit.
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      • iifold
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-25-10
        • 11111

        #4
        sometimes there isn't a better mousetrap...

        as proven by the current state of our country...

        some things are better left alone, like strike zones and the United States of America...
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        • dodger33
          SBR MVP
          • 08-14-09
          • 3962

          #5
          Someone is throwing a perfect game and he is 3-2 with 2 outs in the 9th and the pitch is a centimeter outside the zone...ball 4. no thanks i will stay with a human
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          • SBR_John
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-12-05
            • 16471

            #6
            I hate the bad balls and strike calls too. But I'm not in favor of a trax count. If you really think about it there is no way to get a perfect electronic call. Think of the Nolan Ryan curve. Do you call a strike if it catches the back of the strike zone even though its a foot high at the front of the strike zone? Then you have guys that 5'5" and guys that are 6'6". Would you adjust it every time?

            A better solution is stop rotating umpires. Find the guys who call balls and strikes accurately and leave them behind the plate. And constantly review them and like pilots, send them to a week of review every 4 weeks. Make them watch every call they made over and over. Basically get the best and increase their ongoing training.
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            • GOIRISH
              SBR MVP
              • 09-25-10
              • 2072

              #7
              i like baseball the way that it is, bad calls are apart of the game. Football is already screwed up and goes to too many comercial breaks every other snap for reviews.
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              • antifoil
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-09
                • 3993

                #8
                i am for robot umps. the best thing about it is how to use a catcher when there is no one on base. teams would put that player in the field as an extra defender. more strategy.

                joe madden's head would explode with the possibilities.
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                • robmpink
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-09-07
                  • 13205

                  #9
                  That would be weird. I remember an episode of the Jetsons cartoon where the umpire was a robot.

                  Heck, maybe the players were robots as well.
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                  • Mr. Teaser
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-16-09
                    • 1668

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                    I hate the bad balls and strike calls too. But I'm not in favor of a trax count. If you really think about it there is no way to get a perfect electronic call. Think of the Nolan Ryan curve. Do you call a strike if it catches the back of the strike zone even though its a foot high at the front of the strike zone? Then you have guys that 5'5" and guys that are 6'6". Would you adjust it every time?

                    A better solution is stop rotating umpires. Find the guys who call balls and strikes accurately and leave them behind the plate. And constantly review them and like pilots, send them to a week of review every 4 weeks. Make them watch every call they made over and over. Basically get the best and increase their ongoing training.

                    But what if in a few years technology could track a Nolan Ryan type curve. Would you be in favor of it?
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                    • Mr. Teaser
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-16-09
                      • 1668

                      #11
                      Originally posted by GOIRISH
                      i like baseball the way that it is, bad calls are apart of the game. Football is already screwed up and goes to too many comercial breaks every other snap for reviews.

                      It wouldn't slow the game down at all. If anything it would speed it up because there wouldn't be much to argue. Balls and strikes that is.
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                      • Mr. Teaser
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-16-09
                        • 1668

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dodger33
                        Someone is throwing a perfect game and he is 3-2 with 2 outs in the 9th and the pitch is a centimeter outside the zone...ball 4. no thanks i will stay with a human
                        So if someone pitched a ball you would want it a strike to keep a perfect game? That's why?
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                        • dodger33
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-14-09
                          • 3962

                          #13
                          Umpires expand or contract their zones based upon the consistency of a pitcher. Pitchers who can consistently hit the black just a hair below the knees should be rewarded. robots would not reward that.
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                          • Mr. Teaser
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-16-09
                            • 1668

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dodger33
                            Umpires expand or contract their zones based upon the consistency of a pitcher. Pitchers who can consistently hit the black just a hair below the knees should be rewarded. robots would not reward that.
                            OK we can agree to disagree. I don't think any strike zone should be expanded or contracted. I think if a ball is a ball then it needs to be called as such....and it wouldn't really be a robot now would it.
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                            • Mr. Teaser
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-16-09
                              • 1668

                              #15
                              The time is getting closer
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                              • klemopixx
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-02-14
                                • 3806

                                #16
                                When the labor contract is up it might come down to that but baseball is such an old fashioned purist sport. It would never get voted in. Plus it's fun to see a manager argue with an ump, gets the crowd going!
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                                • ACoochy
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 13949

                                  #17
                                  Yay....

                                  No more being treated like 2nd rate morons by inept umpiring decisions for which there is ZERO recourse in place
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                                  • Rich Boy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-01-09
                                    • 9713

                                    #18
                                    As much as I hate bad umps that make the wrong calls, I think in the end it evens out and there really isnt any advantage.
                                    Electronic strike zones are just too much of a change for baseball that took years to implement instant replay. Baseball will never go to electronic strike zones...
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                                    • iloseagain
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 06-29-10
                                      • 10682

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SBR_John

                                      A better solution is stop rotating umpires. Find the guys who call balls and strikes accurately and leave them behind the plate. And constantly review them and like pilots, send them to a week of review every 4 weeks. Make them watch every call they made over and over. Basically get the best and increase their ongoing training.
                                      this is just absurd.. you realize there is like 8-15 games per day right? it sounds like you want the same umps to ump every game... what do you think they do with the umps? do you think they dont already put the guys who call balls and strikes the most accurately, behind the plate???

                                      and what are they gonna review their calls from the camera that is behind the pitcher (like a TV camera view)? There is no angle from the umps eyes, which is all that would really matter in this scenario.
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ACoochy
                                        Yay....

                                        No more being treated like 2nd rate morons by inept umpiring decisions for which there is ZERO recourse in place
                                        That's what pisses me off. Umps/refs/officials aren't held accountable at all for their actions. They can't wait to make themselves a part of the game, then they run off the field like chickenshit pussies afterward and don't have to face any form of media. It's a goddam joke.
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                                        • VeggieDog
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-21-09
                                          • 7214

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dodger33
                                          Someone is throwing a perfect game and he is 3-2 with 2 outs in the 9th and the pitch is a centimeter outside the zone...ball 4. no thanks i will stay with a human
                                          Why are you against a ball being called a ball?
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                                          • larco15
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-06-09
                                            • 329

                                            #22
                                            All of these umpires are 100 pounds overweight. They look like water buffaloes. You really think they can uphold the integrity of the game? There is a negative correlation between fat people and integrity. Two unwritten rules: 1. Umpires will hold grudges and act on them, be it on purpose or otherwise. 2. In a blowout in the 8th and 9th, the strike zone will mysteriously coordinate with the umpire´s taxi or flight plans.
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                                            • johnnyvegas13
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 05-21-15
                                              • 27800

                                              #23
                                              It's cause umps expand zone in 3-0 count and contract in 0-2
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                                              • Mr. Teaser
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-16-09
                                                • 1668

                                                #24
                                                It's needs to happen.
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                                                • Mr. Teaser
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-16-09
                                                  • 1668

                                                  #25
                                                  The tide is turning with the public. Hopefully it's just a couple years away until they fine tune the technology... though I that's somewhat of a bs excuse
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                                                  • unde0087
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 03-27-08
                                                    • 28874

                                                    #26
                                                    How dare you criticize the umping on wristband night. You have a bad case of Umpaphobe going on and it really offends me.
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                                                    • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-10-15
                                                      • 3955

                                                      #27
                                                      give it time and it will happen. They never thought they would over turn calls that an Ump made but now they have New York to call to overturn calls.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388189

                                                        #28
                                                        I think it's on the table after the seasons over to have an automatic Umire which would be excellent and speed the game up
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                                                        • krk1030
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-13-08
                                                          • 17610

                                                          #29
                                                          And take away the art of pitch framing?
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            Umpires too inconsistent

                                                            It wil make game much faster and more fair for each pitcher
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #31
                                                              Greg Maddux would disagree
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                                                              • Mr. Teaser
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-16-09
                                                                • 1668

                                                                #32
                                                                I posted this 6 years ago. Watching another umpire butcher the strike zone yet again. I can only hope it's somewhere in the not to far distant future. Public opinion sure has changed in the time I posted this.
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                                                                • Hman
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-04-17
                                                                  • 21429

                                                                  #33
                                                                  MLB is the only league which allows it's officials to alter the rules & make up their own on a game to game basis.

                                                                  The main reason I despise it.
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Can’t wait till they pull heads out asses and they put a high school kid behind plate w a iPad. Nothing more frustrating than watching a game and seeing exactly what a ball and strike is while lousy ump has no clue.. only bad thing about that is umps are a great capping tool so it might hurt me if their tendencies and biases were taken out of game. On other hand it be nice to cap a game knowing neither pitcher will be unfairly squeezed or worrying about these inconsistent fukk ups.
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                                                                    • Hman
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-04-17
                                                                      • 21429

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                      Can’t wait till they pull heads out asses and they put a high school kid behind plate w a iPad. Nothing more frustrating than watching a game and seeing exactly what a ball and strike is while lousy ump has no clue.. only bad thing about that is umps are a great capping tool so it might hurt me if their tendencies and biases were taken out of game. On other hand it be nice to cap a game knowing neither pitcher will be unfairly squeezed or worrying about these inconsistent fukk ups.
                                                                      Agreed
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