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  • TheMoneyShot
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    #1891
    Originally posted by The Kraken
    I haven’t heard much lately but it seems logical that Paddock was loaded a few years ago, purchased guns and ammo over the last few years while he had money and then lost a significant portion of his money recently. That’s the gamblers lifestyle, ups and downs. If he was truely narcistic and identified with his wealth, when it disappeared he took out his feelings of despair on the world. True psychopath
    This is my problem though... and everyone should ask the same question.

    1. The media delivers you the information. You would only assume the information is accurate. Why would you lie to the public? Makes no sense.

    2. The initial report was... he was amazingly wealthy. We're not saying.... just secure. But, amazingly wealthy. 5-6 properties etc. Traveled a lot... went to Vegas a lot.

    Sure... you can assume he purchased the weapons many moons ago. You can defend anything you want... the issue in question is... why did the media change the story around? They were 100% sure he was financially wealthy... or.... that's where the story was suppose to go...

    Let's face it Krak... I'm not a gun expert. I have no clue in how much money you would need for 15-20 weapons... and numerous rounds of ammunition. I would imagine it's a considerable amount of $. But again... I wouldn't know.
    So, are we suggesting Paddock is a coward for not only taking innocent lives... but firing from 32 floors? Why not just go ape sh#$ on the main floor of the casino. Like maybe Terminator style? Are we suggesting he's a full blown coward? Like I said... you have to question numerous things...

    1. 64 year old man's health and physical ability.

    2. Why so far up in the air? Why 32 floors? Why not just start firing people down... while you're leaving your hotel room. Go down the elevator... and start firing away.

    It's pretty simple in my eyes... he wasn't a coward. It was a STAGE. Media suggests being 32 floors into the air... he wanted to ambush people. Well... I feel it was used to cover the shooters identity. And... we'll really never know who was doing the shooting out that window.

    Every angle you look from... it shows you they wanted the shooter's identity covered. But, let's face it... a full blown maniac doesn't care about you finding out his identity. The story is far too calculating... totally unnecessary... far too much planning... and it doesn't add up for a 64.5 year old man doing this. His identity was used... as being the shooter... and the killer. But again... anyone could of wrote this dude off hours before the actual shooting occurred.

    Just looks like one big CIA fuk up.


    Originally posted by jayfly

    Sadly TMS is not capable of forward thinking like this, he is more fixated on the fact the guy is 64 years old, as he mentions it in virtually every post.
    Another useless post.
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    • TheMoneyShot
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      #1892
      Furthermore, about people who suggested there were shooters at ground level... I tend to agree... when you're in a panic you have zero clue in what's going on with all the commotion. I think it's like a 75/25 that there were no shooters at ground level.

      But I believe near 100% they were covering the shooters identity.

      1. Time of shooting... Dark everywhere.

      2. 32 floors in the air. Unnecessary when you want to ambush people. But to cover your identity... optimal.
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      • The Kraken
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        • 12-25-11
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        #1893
        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
        This is my problem though... and everyone should ask the same question.

        1. The media delivers you the information. You would only assume the information is accurate. Why would you lie to the public? Makes no sense.

        2. The initial report was... he was amazingly wealthy. We're not saying.... just secure. But, amazingly wealthy. 5-6 properties etc. Traveled a lot... went to Vegas a lot.

        Sure... you can assume he purchased the weapons many moons ago. You can defend anything you want... the issue in question is... why did the media change the story around? They were 100% sure he was financially wealthy... or.... that's where the story was suppose to go.

        He probably had huge financial swings. He traveled, gambled big, spent money on guns, properties, who knows what else. His wife was spending money. So I'm not sure the media changed the story around, I think they probably reported correctly in that he used to be rich. A rich to rags story. At the levels he was likely gambling at, it wouldn't take but a few bad runs to chew up a few million.

        Let's face it Krak... I'm not a gun expert. I have no clue in how much money you would need for 15-20 weapons... and numerous rounds of ammunition. I would imagine it's a considerable amount of $. But again... I wouldn't know.

        I own a small arsenal and can tell you the prices have varied significantly on ar-15 type guns over the last few years. Assuming he purchased decent brands ie Colt LE6940, Bushmaster etc... He probably spent between $1200-$2000 on each gun, minimum. During Obamas administration ar-15 prices were inflated. You can get a decent one now on grab a gun dot com for $400, the .300 variant as well. So lets say he bought 25 guns at $2000 and a ton of ammo, he could have easily spent >$75,000 on guns, ammo, mods, scopes, etc.... Plus, he had just wired his girlfriend $100,000 a few weeks before. The guy had significant money.

        So, are we suggesting Paddock is a coward for not only taking innocent lives... but firing from 32 floors? Why not just go ape sh#$ on the main floor of the casino. Like maybe Terminator style? Are we suggesting he's a full blown coward? Like I said... you have to question numerous things...

        1. 64 year old man's health and physical ability.

        2. Why so far up in the air? Why 32 floors? Why not just start firing people down... while you're leaving your hotel room. Go down the elevator... and start firing away.

        It's pretty simple in my eyes... he wasn't a coward. It was a STAGE. Media suggests being 32 floors into the air... he wanted to ambush people. Well... I feel it was used to cover the shooters identity. And... we'll really never know who was doing the shooting out that window.

        Every angle you look from... it shows you they wanted the shooter's identity covered. But, let's face it... a full blown maniac doesn't care about you finding out his identity. The story is far too calculating... totally unnecessary... far too much planning... and it doesn't add up for a 64.5 year old man doing this. His identity was used... as being the shooter... and the killer. But again... anyone could of wrote this dude off hours before the actual shooting occurred.

        Just looks like one big CIA fuk up.

        I can't answer your questions any better than you can. But I stop short of trying to bridge my gaps in knowledge with assumptions that lead me to hasty conclusions. You have a tendency to fill in the blanks as you see fit.

        Reading your posts what I see most often is that you have a lot of questions which you want answered but you don't wait for the official answer. Maybe you're inpatient and don't want to wait a year or two, maybe you already know when the FBI releases their info that would answer your questions you wouldn't believe it anyways, so you just come to your own conclusions and it's dangerous to think that way.

        Nobody here is naive and is saying there is a 0% chance this was a cover up, but we don't have anything right now that points that direction. A lack of information is not evidence to a coverup. The LV sheriff fukk up early by prematurely trying to appease the publics thirst for instant gratification and knowledge and it bit him in the ass. The FBI knows better and that's why we're not getting anything from them.


        Another useless post.
        Answers in red TMS

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        • slambam
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          • 02-07-10
          • 1653

          #1894
          I don't get the questions about his age and why he was 32 stories up. Age is a non factor to me. TMS says why would a 64 year old shoot down on a concert? Why would a 20 year old go shoot up an elementary school a week before Christmas? Why would a pyscho rent a truck from Home Depot and take it for a cruise down a bike path? Why would a 24 year old dress up as the joker and shoot up a movie theater? None of this make sense, except that people are fukked in the head. None of those make any more sense than I guy who has been getting his ass pounded at the casino for 2 years finally snapping. Paddock probably wanted to do as much damage as he could. He probably thought (and I would too) that he could sit up high on that 32nd floor for an hour and just keep on firing. Plus, police said they thought he had an escape plan - there's no way he's escaping if hes on the ground shooting. There are plenty of reports of people who knew him as a bit of an asshole. He didn't have a criminal record, but it's not like he had a reputation a stand up human being. Don't get me wrong, there are some questionable things in this case, but TMS, I feel like some of the ones you're mentioning are easily explainable.
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          • MaddyMax
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-14-17
            • 790

            #1895
            The guy plays video poker and slots. And he plays big stakes. He probably had some big lucky wins but obviously lost a shit ton...those games are big -ev, no way you can win playing 2 years.

            media when reported him wealthy didnt report facts...it was all speculation based on what ppl knew him said....and ppl knew him goes by what he brags about. we all know all the gambling losers love to brag, we can find it right here in sbr. he was a white american guy...so media loves to paint him as a successfull wealthy real estate investor rather than a terrorist or a psychopath etc. they even reported that he was a successfull high stake video poeker and lot player.....that was pathetic because there is no such thing....and that is how stupid the media is.

            but as days passed once the started investigating him they found the real stuff...he was actually a bad real estate investor who lost money in his investments (but probably bragged to everyone that he has lots of properties and makes good money from them), lost a lot gambling on video poker and slot machine (but brags about the winning tickets....example his brother claiming that he would send photos of cheques of 40k and up winnign in video poker) etc etc.

            if you didn't watch any news and just knew the story that he is a big stake video poker/slot player, its pretty safe to assume that he was losing a lot and went on a mad killing spree....that is what really happened. but in this doay with the dumb media, social media and all the stupid ppl as lemmings, you can just stir shit up easily.

            i am so hammered and partied all night and still haven't slept, so i hope i typed ok.
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            • nyplayer33
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              • 09-27-06
              • 8303

              #1896
              Weird events for sure...
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              • HurryUpAndDrink
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                • 08-23-13
                • 13017

                #1897
                100% this shit had CIA/FBI shills involved
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                • d2bets
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                  • 08-10-05
                  • 39995

                  #1898
                  Originally posted by Kermit
                  No one is mysteriously killing them. 2.5 million people die in the US every year. That is about 2 out of every 300. There were over 20,000 people at that concert. With the law of averages in play, about 150 of those 20,000 people would die within one year.
                  I'm not saying anything mysteriously, but those numbers are overall. You gotta figure that most of the people at the concert are young -- 20 to 50. And more affluent than not. Not necessarily representative of overall population.
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                  • jayfly
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-18-09
                    • 1234

                    #1899
                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                    This is my problem though... and everyone should ask the same question.

                    1. The media delivers you the information. You would only assume the information is accurate. Why would you lie to the public? Makes no sense.

                    2. The initial report was... he was amazingly wealthy. We're not saying.... just secure. But, amazingly wealthy. 5-6 properties etc. Traveled a lot... went to Vegas a lot.

                    Sure... you can assume he purchased the weapons many moons ago. You can defend anything you want... the issue in question is... why did the media change the story around? They were 100% sure he was financially wealthy... or.... that's where the story was suppose to go...

                    Let's face it Krak... I'm not a gun expert. I have no clue in how much money you would need for 15-20 weapons... and numerous rounds of ammunition. I would imagine it's a considerable amount of $. But again... I wouldn't know.
                    So, are we suggesting Paddock is a coward for not only taking innocent lives... but firing from 32 floors? Why not just go ape sh#$ on the main floor of the casino. Like maybe Terminator style? Are we suggesting he's a full blown coward? Like I said... you have to question numerous things...

                    1. 64 year old man's health and physical ability.

                    2. Why so far up in the air? Why 32 floors? Why not just start firing people down... while you're leaving your hotel room. Go down the elevator... and start firing away.

                    It's pretty simple in my eyes... he wasn't a coward. It was a STAGE. Media suggests being 32 floors into the air... he wanted to ambush people. Well... I feel it was used to cover the shooters identity. And... we'll really never know who was doing the shooting out that window.

                    Every angle you look from... it shows you they wanted the shooter's identity covered. But, let's face it... a full blown maniac doesn't care about you finding out his identity. The story is far too calculating... totally unnecessary... far too much planning... and it doesn't add up for a 64.5 year old man doing this. His identity was used... as being the shooter... and the killer. But again... anyone could of wrote this dude off hours before the actual shooting occurred.

                    Just looks like one big CIA fuk up.



                    Another useless post.

                    Its the truth, you mention it in every post. Why?
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                    • TheMoneyShot
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                      • 02-14-07
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                      #1900
                      Originally posted by jayfly
                      Its the truth, you mention it in every post. Why?
                      What is the truth? Because the media told you so? They couldn't even get it right within 30 days of research. Story changed 3 times.

                      You can also Wikipedia Stephen Paddock Vegas Shooting. They have changed the story on the page 3 times... and pieced together their own timeline from their "accurate sources". If you're reading the entire story with an open mind... from start to finish and haven't been briefed at all on the story... you'd question everything. Especially how detailed the weaponry is.... how 200 rounds were fired at the entrance to the hotel room towards the security guard... but the guard was only slightly wounded? How do you fire 200 bullets at someone and only wound them? USING MILITARY STYLE WEAPONRY? 1 bullet hits you... you're dead. How did he miss firing 200 rounds at the door... roughly 15-25 feet away? But he managed to wound 500+ people 800ft - 1000ft away??? Again... it's a bullsh#$ story.

                      "The unarmed guard had attempted to enter the 32nd floor first at 9:59 p.m., on an unrelated matter,"

                      The security guard approached the door on an unrelated matter?? What matter was it to begin with?

                      Again, a variety of holes in the story.
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                      • jayfly
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                        • 10-18-09
                        • 1234

                        #1901
                        No, I meant it was the truth as far as you mention his age in every post lol like it matters somehow, sorry if I made it sound like something else.
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                        • MinnesotaFats
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-18-10
                          • 14758

                          #1902
                          What would or who would be the target here to warrant a CIA or FBI coverup? There would need to be some reason for the chaos or person to eliminate or significant benefit to commiting this type of scheme and assault.

                          To date I don't see any financial or political changes and no high level deaths.

                          Guy just wanted to get his 15 minutes of fame by doing a ridiculous act. Don't forget he shot at the fuel tanks at Mccarren and at the planes, but with 0 effect.
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                          • slambam
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                            • 02-07-10
                            • 1653

                            #1903
                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                            What is the truth? Because the media told you so? They couldn't even get it right within 30 days of research. Story changed 3 times.

                            You can also Wikipedia Stephen Paddock Vegas Shooting. They have changed the story on the page 3 times... and pieced together their own timeline from their "accurate sources". If you're reading the entire story with an open mind... from start to finish and haven't been briefed at all on the story... you'd question everything. Especially how detailed the weaponry is.... how 200 rounds were fired at the entrance to the hotel room towards the security guard... but the guard was only slightly wounded? How do you fire 200 bullets at someone and only wound them? USING MILITARY STYLE WEAPONRY? 1 bullet hits you... you're dead. How did he miss firing 200 rounds at the door... roughly 15-25 feet away? But he managed to wound 500+ people 800ft - 1000ft away??? Again... it's a bullsh#$ story.

                            "The unarmed guard had attempted to enter the 32nd floor first at 9:59 p.m., on an unrelated matter,"

                            The security guard approached the door on an unrelated matter?? What matter was it to begin with?

                            Again, a variety of holes in the story.
                            Dude, he was shooting through the door, its not like he could see who he was aiming at, and I'm pretty sure the guard moved away from the door right away. How did he shoot so many people at the concert? Because the place was packed. It was basically a huge city block full of people, it probably woulda been tougher to miss than hit people.
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                            • Yankfan4life2
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                              • 01-15-17
                              • 2275

                              #1904
                              Originally posted by slambam
                              Dude, he was shooting through the door, its not like he could see who he was aiming at, and I'm pretty sure the guard moved away from the door right away. How did he shoot so many people at the concert? Because the place was packed. It was basically a huge city block full of people, it probably woulda been tougher to miss than hit people.
                              It's been over a month and there's more questions than answers. Moneyshot is absolutely correct about questioning everything. Vegas is filled with cameras and we have yet to see video footage of paddock in or out of the hotel. Now with this new shooting we'll all forget about the missing pieces to the las vegas incident.

                              Point blank, question everything and don't take everything you see or hear on TV as law.
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                              • Auto Donk
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                                • 09-03-13
                                • 43558

                                #1905
                                I thought we'd resolved this case and it was over.

                                any new news?

                                motive?

                                japanese bukkake?

                                smurfs?

                                anything?
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                                • themike78
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                                  • 07-01-13
                                  • 4873

                                  #1906
                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                  I thought we'd resolved this case and it was over.

                                  any new news?

                                  motive?

                                  japanese bukkake?

                                  smurfs?

                                  anything?
                                  It had to be the bukkake.
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                                  • TheMoneyShot
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                                    • 02-14-07
                                    • 28672

                                    #1907
                                    Originally posted by slambam
                                    Dude, he was shooting through the door, its not like he could see who he was aiming at, and I'm pretty sure the guard moved away from the door right away. How did he shoot so many people at the concert? Because the place was packed. It was basically a huge city block full of people, it probably woulda been tougher to miss than hit people.
                                    Are you being realistic right now? If someone approaches your hotel door and knocks on it... do they ever stand away from your door? No... they stand dead center in front of it waiting for it to be answered. Hard to believe 200 rounds missed the security guard.

                                    I don't think an AR-15 is going to miss you 200 times. Not only that... but mysteriously the so called people... in the "other hotel rooms" weren't injured. Oh yeah... there were people everywhere on that floor. Right.

                                    Did you take a good look at that security guy? Yeah... really looks like he was in shape to make a quick judgement and jump out of the way.

                                    Like I said... give me a story that adds up. That's all I want.
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                      • 02-14-07
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                                      #1908
                                      Originally posted by jayfly
                                      No, I meant it was the truth as far as you mention his age in every post lol like it matters somehow, sorry if I made it sound like something else.
                                      It does matter. Percentages show the avg 64 year old would need help throughout this entire operation.

                                      There's so many things you can question.... 10 bulky ammo bags were found... weapon gear... etc. He would have to take multiple trips to and from your hotel room.. who knows if it was select timing or not? But whoever is doing the security surveillance with the HD CAMS everywhere... would of found this suspicious. Clearly suspicious. There's no chance Paddock did this on his own. Zero Zero Zero Zero chance.
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                                      • Cuse0323
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                                        • 12-09-09
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                                        #1909
                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                        Are you being realistic right now? If someone approaches your hotel door and knocks on it... do they ever stand away from your door? No... they stand dead center in front of it waiting for it to be answered. Hard to believe 200 rounds missed the security guard.

                                        I don't think an AR-15 is going to miss you 200 times. Not only that... but mysteriously the so called people... in the "other hotel rooms" weren't injured. Oh yeah... there were people everywhere on that floor. Right.

                                        Did you take a good look at that security guy? Yeah... really looks like he was in shape to make a quick judgement and jump out of the way.

                                        Like I said... give me a story that adds up. That's all I want.
                                        Well, according to the story I don't think he knocked. The whole weird cameras thing. Saw the guy coming, and started shooting through the door. Guy could have got out of the hallway quick enough, or hid in a doorway if they are setup like that.

                                        Still, that's another weird thing about the story. The cameras he supposedly setup. Why even do that? Lock your shit, and blast away. I guess if he really had some plan to escape, maybe. He jammed the stairs door, so he could have wanted to use that. Wasn't gonna make it, but bring a gun with ya and give it a shot.

                                        Who knows. They threw out so many odd pieces to the puzzle, so that it makes sense for them to not have a clue.
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                                        • Chi_archie
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                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63165

                                          #1910
                                          Cameras weren't working dude
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                                          • Cuse0323
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                                            • 30169

                                            #1911
                                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                            Cameras weren't working dude
                                            Huh?

                                            The shooters?

                                            I can't keep up. At one point they said it was aimed through the peephole. How would a camera even see shit like that.
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                                            • TheMoneyShot
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                                              • 02-14-07
                                              • 28672

                                              #1912


                                              If you guys have the time... these videos should sum it up. Here is Part 1.





                                              Part 2





                                              I admire this guy on YouTube for using his brain..... guy wants to get down to the bottom of it.


                                              After you watch all 3 videos... and you still want to be a SHEEP.... God help you.
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                                              • Cuse0323
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                                                • 12-09-09
                                                • 30169

                                                #1913
                                                I feel like they are laughing at us. Some lady on Tucker has the last name Lombardo. The so-called attorney for the victims that is 'searching' for answers. Sheriff Lombardo running the show after it happened. They look like brother, and sister. Gotta give 'em credit for that one.
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                                                • Auto Donk
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                                                  • 09-03-13
                                                  • 43558

                                                  #1914
                                                  all kinds of good stuff coming out now.....

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                                                  • HurryUpAndDrink
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                                                    • 08-23-13
                                                    • 13017

                                                    #1915
                                                    this is insane guys

                                                    we live in truly somber times
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                                                    • Auto Donk
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-03-13
                                                      • 43558

                                                      #1916
                                                      i'm liste3ning to ex cia and others while butchering yet another deer, and they're convinced chertoff, adelson and the mossad pulled off vegas.....

                                                      sounds like a bond movie in the making, if we can fit mi-6 into the fray
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                                                      • Auto Donk
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-03-13
                                                        • 43558

                                                        #1917
                                                        you think I ramble.....:

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                                                        • Git Lo
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                                                          • 02-20-11
                                                          • 3785

                                                          #1918
                                                          Money rules. US Dollar to be specific
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                                                          • nyplayer33
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                                                            • 09-27-06
                                                            • 8303

                                                            #1919
                                                            Another survivor is dead..hit n run...was looking for a ride..major bs
                                                            Last edited by nyplayer33; 11-25-17, 05:27 AM.
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                                                            • TheMoneyShot
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                                                              • 02-14-07
                                                              • 28672

                                                              #1920
                                                              It angers me to know this was one major setup and innocent people's lives were effected and/or changed.

                                                              For all the people who were in on it...

                                                              I hope somebody in your family dies real soon.
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                                                              • Git Lo
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                                                                • 02-20-11
                                                                • 3785

                                                                #1921
                                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                                It angers me to know this was one major setup and innocent people's lives were effected and/or changed.

                                                                For all the people who were in on it...

                                                                I hope somebody in your family dies real soon.
                                                                Couldn't have said it any better. penetrate beta males too, pussies!
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                                                                • brooks85
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                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 44709

                                                                  #1922
                                                                  so does anyone actually have a reason this would be a coverup yet?


                                                                  First thing you have to do is find the motive which may not have been revealed yet but real conspiracy theories like 9/11 and pearl habor had motives.

                                                                  As of right now there seems to be no motive for the government to have done this or allowed it to happen. If hillary was president then you could look at how the government wants to disarm the people but that is not the case.
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                                                                  • slambam
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                                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                                    • 1653

                                                                    #1923
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    so does anyone actually have a reason this would be a coverup yet?
                                                                    First thing you have to do is find the motive which may not have been revealed yet but real conspiracy theories like 9/11 and pearl habor had motives.

                                                                    As of right now there seems to be no motive for the government to have done this or allowed it to happen. If hillary was president then you could look at how the government wants to disarm the people but that is not the case.

                                                                    There was a motive discussed around the posts on 4chan 3-4 weeks before this happened. I really don't know how it ties in with the government, but it really does make sense. I don't really believe in the multiple shooter story or some of the other stories, but all these people dying after it happened and the 4chan posts prior to it happening are pretty eye opening.
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                                                                    • brooks85
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                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 44709

                                                                      #1924
                                                                      Originally posted by slambam
                                                                      There was a motive discussed around the posts on 4chan 3-4 weeks before this happened. I really don't know how it ties in with the government, but it really does make sense. I don't really believe in the multiple shooter story or some of the other stories, but all these people dying after it happened and the 4chan posts prior to it happening are pretty eye opening.
                                                                      what did they say the motive was?
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                                                                      • slambam
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                                                                        • 02-07-10
                                                                        • 1653

                                                                        #1925
                                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                        what did they say the motive was?


                                                                        There is no proof that a vague post the day before the anniversary of 9/11 "predicted" the mass shooting on 1 October 2017.
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